rebusrankin Posted October 24 Report Posted October 24 Brady should be MOC and MOP for the second season in a row but I bet he gets gyped out of MOP again for Milligan or Beverette because the writers have the collective IQ of Ralph Wiggum. Booch and wbbfan 1 1
Noeller Posted October 24 Author Report Posted October 24 Milligan winning any awards would be ludicrous. The bullshit hype is all media created. None of his stats are THAT overwhelming. rebusrankin, wbbfan and BigBlueFanatic 3
Goalie Posted October 24 Report Posted October 24 (edited) Milligan has a case for MODP but MOP? Please. Dude has been good. I’d say he’s been equal to Ford from what I’ve seen. Edited October 24 by Goalie
wbbfan Posted October 24 Report Posted October 24 4 minutes ago, Goalie said: Milligan has a case for MODP but MOP? Please. Dude has been good. I’d say he’s been equal to Ford from what I’ve seen. A bad case maybe lol. Noeller and rebusrankin 2
Noeller Posted October 24 Author Report Posted October 24 45 minutes ago, Goalie said: Milligan has a case for MODP but MOP? Please. Dude has been good. I’d say he’s been equal to Ford from what I’ve seen. This is exactly what they're going for... "Well, okay, maybe not MOP but we have to give him SOMETHING so we'll give him the MODP as a consolation.." but it's garbage. We have 2 or 3 DBs as good.
17to85 Posted October 24 Report Posted October 24 10 hours ago, Noeller said: We have 2 or 3 DBs as good. *better Booch and Noeller 2
JohnnyAbonny Posted October 24 Report Posted October 24 My theory is that a lot of the media don’t actually watch all the games, then base their award votes off stats. Separate point, with so many ratio breakers now on D, is it out of the question to have separate MODC and MOOC awards like they do with the main ones? rebusrankin, K-Shack and wbbfan 2 1
Booch Posted October 24 Report Posted October 24 11 hours ago, wbbfan said: A bad case maybe lol. yeah he is a MODP consideration for sure....but Ford has had just as good a seson....and on a better defensive backfield...which should factor in as well....but likely won't... 10 hours ago, Noeller said: This is exactly what they're going for... "Well, okay, maybe not MOP but we have to give him SOMETHING so we'll give him the MODP as a consolation.." but it's garbage. We have 2 or 3 DBs as good. i'd say better Noeller and wbbfan 1 1
Noeller Posted October 24 Author Report Posted October 24 Ya I clearly mistyped... Our DBs are absolutely better. Ford and Nichols for sure. Basing MODP votes on INT stats is bullshit... Zach Schnitzer and wbbfan 2
HardCoreBlue Posted October 24 Report Posted October 24 4 minutes ago, Noeller said: Ya I clearly mistyped... Our DBs are absolutely better. Ford and Nichols for sure. Basing MODP votes on INT stats is bullshit... Clamp down DB's where the ball is rarely thrown to their side should be receiving the silverware. Sard, wbbfan, JCon and 1 other 2 2
Super Duper Negatron Posted October 24 Report Posted October 24 TBURGESS, M.O.A.B., johnzo and 4 others 1 4 2
wbbfan Posted October 24 Report Posted October 24 2 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said: My theory is that a lot of the media don’t actually watch all the games, then base their award votes off stats. Separate point, with so many ratio breakers now on D, is it out of the question to have separate MODC and MOOC awards like they do with the main ones? Guaranteed. I think that’d be reasonable. At worst under rated ni dl get a trophy in a down year. JohnnyAbonny, Goalie and K-Shack 3
Goalie Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 On 2024-10-24 at 9:02 AM, Noeller said: Ya I clearly mistyped... Our DBs are absolutely better. Ford and Nichols for sure. Basing MODP votes on INT stats is bullshit... Houston wasn’t MODP was he. Nope. And he had more picks. I’m wondering what they got against Brady tho. Is he to good of a person off the field? Is rescuing puppies frowned upon? But sexual harassment is applauded? I don’t get it. Canadian good guy who rescues ******* puppies as the face of the league? Nah. We will go with the rapists instead. BomberBall., JCon, wbbfan and 2 others 5
rebusrankin Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 Take Brady off our team and we likely have 4-5 wins not 10 and counting. Take Milligan off the Riders and they likely have the same 9 wins. Goalie, 17to85, Booch and 1 other 3 1
Noeller Posted October 26 Author Report Posted October 26 19 minutes ago, rebusrankin said: Take Brady off our team and we likely have 4-5 wins not 10 and counting. Take Milligan off the Riders and they likely have the same 9 wins. Except it's not mVp... It's mOp.... I'm just saying value to the team is irrelevant. TBURGESS and JohnnyAbonny 2
rebusrankin Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 10 hours ago, Noeller said: Except it's not mVp... It's mOp.... I'm just saying value to the team is irrelevant. True but to me, helping elevate a team in the win column is outstanding.
johnzo Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 MOP is something I think the CFL gets wrong. Would rather see an MVP award ... football is a team sport and I think team impact should be the primary criteria for the award. And I think Brady is the obvious choice for an MVP award: without him, the bombers aren't a playoff team, and I think you can say the same for Josh Hardy out east. Noeller, JohnnyAbonny and Zach Schnitzer 1 2
17to85 Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 Mop vs. Mvp is really just sublantics. The only people who try and make the distinction are people pushing a specific narrative. Really it's the best player this season award. And that's Brady. JCon, Bigblue204 and Noeller 3
Booch Posted October 29 Report Posted October 29 Thoughts on season to date.....even tho not finished, and even tho a Cup win at the end is the marker of success I am of the thought that regardless of what occurs now this has to be considered a success of sorts We have effectively had a pretty significant transition, tho not by choice it did happen....and somewhat alleviates the fear of going into a 2025 home Cup run that we would have leaned and relied on this aging and underperforming corp We will re-sign both Lawler and Schoen...you can bank on that and with the 3 young kids showing they have the chops....and another off-season and TC of growth we in good shape there, and any new body that blows the lights out in TC/Pre-season is just another bee in the hive for us Defensively I think we have found our 2 legit ends to compliment WJ in Garbutt and Person's....even tho you all havn't seen him take a rep...he's the real deal nd he was a legit NFL pass rush specialist prospect...they wanted him to gain weight for that role but he didnt go that route and he is a perfect blend for the CFL....So again even with Haba here and anyone else we bring in....we will have depth...Haba is a real nice 4th guy. WE have those 2 legit ends with WJ...and just let him loose to attack the QB with 60% of snaps...look out...Thats where he thrives D-line wise...Fox..Woods..Adams with another yr...only gonna get better...And logic has to tell you Lawson takes Thomas' snaps...god willing and again...thats a net positive....I don't hink Schmeck fits in there and Samson or possibly a 2025 draft pick or a Global takes his spot . That was a serious area of concern...last yr...going into this yr and a wholesale change for 2025 would likely not been the best way to go....and the fear of just rolling withThomas would have been the way Osh leans....Be interesting what Osh does with him next yr...is he even signed? Linebacker to...with Jones..Ayers...Cole...we are good...anyone who comes in and pushes them out...even better, and Biggie wont be back to Labour day earliest...and even then..age...body type...i have a hard time seeing him being in the mix...and id we cant unearht a new stud...Wilson as the DA...limited packages...depth...ST leader....we could do way worse We now need to tweak/fine tune the defense for most part in 2025...People love Holm but he really is the weak link...Griffin would offer a lot more...already does....and we are pretty good at finding DB's...I would think a role for Holm would be the 6th...and Nationalized and used in various spots....mainly that role they tried with Hallett....as he was continuously burned...interesting enough we haven't seem much of that of late so obviously the coaching did notice that....now time to notice SchmeckThomas I think our area of focus has to be mainly O-line and returner in free -agency/draft/scouting... I am fine with Bryant as he has not regressed and during the streak he was lights out...But there will be others in free agency to go after, and I can't not see us going after some....I would also be fine with Neuf back, but in the role of Wallace/Eli....and if Grant is available....I'd be all over that again...I'd also bring Lucky back to compete in camp all in all....we in good shape heading into 2025 BBlink, wbbfan, Bigblue204 and 5 others 5 1 2
Noeller Posted October 29 Author Report Posted October 29 Bubba Zanetti, Super Duper Negatron, Bigblue204 and 6 others 5 2 2
blue85gold Posted October 29 Report Posted October 29 12 minutes ago, Booch said: Thoughts on season to date.....even tho not finished, and even tho a Cup win at the end is the marker of success I am of the thought that regardless of what occurs now this has to be considered a success of sorts We have effectively had a pretty significant transition, tho not by choice it did happen....and somewhat alleviates the fear of going into a 2025 home Cup run that we would have leaned and relied on this aging and underperforming corp We will re-sign both Lawler and Schoen...you can bank on that and with the 3 young kids showing they have the chops....and another off-season and TC of growth we in good shape there, and any new body that blows the lights out in TC/Pre-season is just another bee in the hive for us Defensively I think we have found our 2 legit ends to compliment WJ in Garbutt and Person's....even tho you all havn't seen him take a rep...he's the real deal nd he was a legit NFL pass rush specialist prospect...they wanted him to gain weight for that role but he didnt go that route and he is a perfect blend for the CFL....So again even with Haba here and anyone else we bring in....we will have depth...Haba is a real nice 4th guy. WE have those 2 legit ends with WJ...and just let him loose to attack the QB with 60% of snaps...look out...Thats where he thrives D-line wise...Fox..Woods..Adams with another yr...only gonna get better...And logic has to tell you Lawson takes Thomas' snaps...god willing and again...thats a net positive....I don't hink Schmeck fits in there and Samson or possibly a 2025 draft pick or a Global takes his spot . That was a serious area of concern...last yr...going into this yr and a wholesale change for 2025 would likely not been the best way to go....and the fear of just rolling withThomas would have been the way Osh leans....Be interesting what Osh does with him next yr...is he even signed? Linebacker to...with Jones..Ayers...Cole...we are good...anyone who comes in and pushes them out...even better, and Biggie wont be back to Labour day earliest...and even then..age...body type...i have a hard time seeing him being in the mix...and id we cant unearht a new stud...Wilson as the DA...limited packages...depth...ST leader....we could do way worse We now need to tweak/fine tune the defense for most part in 2025...People love Holm but he really is the weak link...Griffin would offer a lot more...already does....and we are pretty good at finding DB's...I would think a role for Holm would be the 6th...and Nationalized and used in various spots....mainly that role they tried with Hallett....as he was continuously burned...interesting enough we haven't seem much of that of late so obviously the coaching did notice that....now time to notice SchmeckThomas I think our area of focus has to be mainly O-line and returner in free -agency/draft/scouting... I am fine with Bryant as he has not regressed and during the streak he was lights out...But there will be others in free agency to go after, and I can't not see us going after some....I would also be fine with Neuf back, but in the role of Wallace/Eli....and if Grant is available....I'd be all over that again...I'd also bring Lucky back to compete in camp all in all....we in good shape heading into 2025 Saw that Leake is a FA from the Elks too. He would be a nice add as returner and rotational RB. Brady and him as thunder and lightning. Bigblue204, Zach Schnitzer and wbbfan 3
Booch Posted October 29 Report Posted October 29 3 minutes ago, blue85gold said: Saw that Leake is a FA from the Elks too. He would be a nice add as returner and rotational RB. Brady and him as thunder and lightning. Leake would be my number 1 target for sure wbbfan, Zach Schnitzer and Bigblue204 3
HardCoreBlue Posted October 29 Report Posted October 29 7 minutes ago, Booch said: Leake would be my number 1 target for sure He impressed me with being more than one dimensional (KR), i.e., showed he can also line up in the back field and be effective. Zach Schnitzer and wbbfan 2
Booch Posted October 29 Report Posted October 29 2 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: He impressed me with being more than one dimensional (KR), i.e., showed he can also line up in the back field and be effective. definate home run hitter...Imagine him and BO lined up in backfield together in some sets...or him weaving around in motion?....defence having to decide who to focus on at snap? Zach Schnitzer, wbbfan and HardCoreBlue 3
GCn20 Posted October 29 Report Posted October 29 55 minutes ago, Booch said: definate home run hitter...Imagine him and BO lined up in backfield together in some sets...or him weaving around in motion?....defence having to decide who to focus on at snap? Leake would be awesome, so would getting Grant back from the Argos and correcting a big whiff from this past offseason. wbbfan, Booch and Zach Schnitzer 2 1
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