Booch Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 10 minutes ago, wbbfan said: Yeeeep. But they might delay it. Adam’s is being used soo much as an end and we use the 30 front more than the 40. It’s not a bunch is the problem. Dobson is a mauler. Eli, wallace but he’s raw. Neuf is toast. We could put out a killer road grading interior if we wanted. With Fox now hurt...a 30 front with Thomas and Or Schmekel would not serve us well...we need some bodies...legit ones not roster place holders Piggy 1 and Bigblue204 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 14 minutes ago, Booch said: With Fox now hurt...a 30 front with Thomas and Or Schmekel would not serve us well...we need some bodies...legit ones not roster place holders Didn’t hear one way or another how bad Fox injury was, or even see what happened. If he’s out long term, a 30 front of Willie/Woods/Adams wouldn’t be bad in itself but they’d still have to bring someone in. wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 20 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said: Yeah, JY uses a lot of 30 front. I actually like a lot of the looks on D, even if it’s by necessity due to injuries/personnel When they’ve blitzed it’s (so far) been less telegraphed than under Hall. Granted the lack of Offence, rookies gelling, injuries, I have no major beef with the defensive performance overall. Room for improvement but the amount of points they’ve given up is more than good enough to win games with even borderline competent O and ST. Agree I’m a big fan of the 30, especially up here. You gain tremendous versatility, and way better pressure options. The D is solid. If we’d get away from Thomas and biggie it’d be sick. Noeller, JohnnyAbonny, WildPath and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueFanatic Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 Just now, JohnnyAbonny said: Didn’t hear one way or another how bad Fox injury was, or even see what happened. If he’s out long term, a 30 front of Willie/Woods/Adams wouldn’t be bad in itself but they’d still have to bring someone in. There was a sequence where I thought I saw Fox bang up his arm/hand badly on a helmet. Was holding his arm and maybe had one or two more plays then was out of the game. What are Upshaw and Tre Thomas up to and would they come back. Need a DL and like Karamoko but omg he got way too many snaps the other night. JohnnyAbonny, wbbfan and Stickem 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 20 minutes ago, Booch said: With Fox now hurt...a 30 front with Thomas and Or Schmekel would not serve us well...we need some bodies...legit ones not roster place holders Adam’s and woods are strong candidates along with a de, but we are married to Jake. BigBlueFanatic and JohnnyAbonny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 20 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said: Didn’t hear one way or another how bad Fox injury was, or even see what happened. If he’s out long term, a 30 front of Willie/Woods/Adams wouldn’t be bad in itself but they’d still have to bring someone in. I believe it's his elbow..or arm...and yeah don't know yet what the severity wbbfan and JohnnyAbonny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 24 minutes ago, BigBlueFanatic said: There was a sequence where I thought I saw Fox bang up his arm/hand badly on a helmet. Was holding his arm and maybe had one or two more plays then was out of the game. What are Upshaw and Tre Thomas up to and would they come back. Need a DL and like Karamoko but omg he got way too many snaps the other night. Nothing that I know of. Tre Thomas was my TC favourite, as I posted a million times. Upshaw is probably more needed right now. Love to see either/or back. Probably wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 35 minutes ago, wbbfan said: Agree I’m a big fan of the 30, especially up here. You gain tremendous versatility, and way better pressure options. The D is solid. If we’d get away from Thomas and biggie it’d be sick. Biggies past it for sure, but tbh I didn’t think he had a bad game. I’d rather him in the middle than Kyrie, if it’s gotta be one or the other. TBURGESS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 3 hours ago, 17to85 said: At this point I'm not convinced that would be a bad thing for the team... Streveler can't carry this team. Maybe for a few games but not in the playoffs. We'll be worse off. Piggy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Streveler can't carry this team. Maybe for a few games but not in the playoffs. We'll be worse off. If they actually let him play Quarterback, I think Streveler can get the job done. We’ve seen him play the intermediate and deep game in the past and do it well. If they pair that with a more creative running attack, I believe he can succeed. Seriously go watch his first 2 starts with the Bombers, before they gave him a gimmick. He can make the throws. Edited June 15 by JohnnyAbonny Noeller, Piggy 1 and GCJenks 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 47 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said: If they actually let him play Quarterback, I think Streveler can get the job done. We’ve seen him play the intermediate and deep game in the past and do it well. If they pair that with a more creative running attack, I believe he can succeed. Seriously go watch his first 2 starts with the Bombers, before they gave him a gimmick. He can make the throws. That was 2018. He couldn't throw the ball back then. Is he better now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 8 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: That was 2018. He couldn't throw the ball back then. Is he better now? Watch this entire video and tell me he can’t throw the ball. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 42 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said: Watch this entire video and tell me he can’t throw the ball. Highlight reels are wonderful, but it's up to Strev. to prove it this season if he wants to be anything more than a gimmick QB in the CFL. Two games down and the clock is ticking. Noeller, BigBlueFanatic and Atomic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 I'm not saying the guy can't play qb. All I'm saying was that Streveler struggled as the starter & Collaros was brought in as insurance at the time going into the playoffs in 19. He did have mechanical issues at the time & they were discussed here ad nauseum back in 2018 & 19. Booch & I talked about it quite a bit back then. Now, with 4 years as an NFL qb perhaps his mechanics are better. At least I hope so. Buck Pierce sees him throw everyday so he'd know. Pierce obviously isn't ready to give up on Zach just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 14 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: Highlight reels are wonderful, but it's up to Strev. to prove it this season if he wants to be anything more than a gimmick QB in the CFL. Two games down and the clock is ticking. They have to actually give him the playbook before we start counting. When he's just asked to go in and run the ball on gimmick **** how is he supposed to show anything? Guy came into the league as a real qb and showed he could do it. then Lapo turned him into a gimmick. Do we think he's a worse passer now after multiple years of pro experience than he was as a rookie? We don't win the 2019 grey cup without Streveler. Guy wasn't signed to do Prukop things. Let the guy play because at this point I don't believe Collaros can carry this team either. What about those first two games makes anyone have confidence in him? Brutal ints, can't escape pressure, staring down receivers and forcing passes.... Yeah more of that for the highest paid player in the league. Noeller, JohnnyAbonny, BigBlueFanatic and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 (edited) 7 hours ago, Fatty Liver said: Highlight reels are wonderful, but it's up to Strev. to prove it this season if he wants to be anything more than a gimmick QB in the CFL. Two games down and the clock is ticking. The point of showing these highlight was, he physically CAN throw the ball, which a couple guys were saying he can’t, or has a weak arm. Will his decision making be sound? Can he consistently smoothly run the offence? We have no idea, but it sure isn’t a question of his arm. I’m suggesting as others are that at the very least we use Strev as a legit 1B Quarterback when Zach is struggling and not only bash n crash. I think if used correctly he could be closer to Dunnigan than Ken Hobart is what I’m trying to say. Edited June 15 by JohnnyAbonny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 (edited) 6 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: I'm not saying the guy can't play qb. All I'm saying was that Streveler struggled as the starter & Collaros was brought in as insurance at the time going into the playoffs in 19. He did have mechanical issues at the time & they were discussed here ad nauseum back in 2018 & 19. Booch & I talked about it quite a bit back then. Now, with 4 years as an NFL qb perhaps his mechanics are better. At least I hope so. Buck Pierce sees him throw everyday so he'd know. Pierce obviously isn't ready to give up on Zach just yet. Strev (and the whole team) had 2 atrocious games in October of 2019, no doubt. Also a few very good-great ones before that. Did they not bring Collaros to start only after Streveler messed up his ankle though? We don’t win that cup without both, I’m just saying, without Strev getting hurt in the second-last regular season game that year, I don’t even think we see Zach take a meaningful snap as a Bomber. Edited June 15 by JohnnyAbonny WildPath and 17to85 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted June 15 Author Report Share Posted June 15 When we had that 2nd and 1, and didn't take the chance to drop back and do something with it... Instead just smashing it into th pile yet again..... I was so disappointed. Seemed like the perfect opportunity, but maybe that's why they didn't? Too obvious? 17to85, K-Shack and WildPath 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 4 minutes ago, Noeller said: When we had that 2nd and 1, and didn't take the chance to drop back and do something with it... Instead just smashing it into th pile yet again..... I was so disappointed. Seemed like the perfect opportunity, but maybe that's why they didn't? Too obvious? I don’t think they necessarily needed to drop back, but off tackle, zone read, something other than the basic wedge play would have been nice. Noeller and WildPath 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Negatron Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 11 minutes ago, Noeller said: When we had that 2nd and 1, and didn't take the chance to drop back and do something with it... Instead just smashing it into th pile yet again..... I was so disappointed. Seemed like the perfect opportunity, but maybe that's why they didn't? Too obvious? In hindsight I think they knew they might need both attempts. The short yardage was anything but a gimmie. Noeller and JohnnyAbonny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 Chris Smith and Ali Fayad back Haba and Fox on the 6 Noeller, BigBlueFanatic, rebusrankin and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted June 15 Author Report Share Posted June 15 1 minute ago, Mike said: Chris Smith and Ali Fayad back Haba and Fox on the 6 **** sakes that DL.... We need an airlift this weekend. WildPath, rebusrankin and JohnnyAbonny 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 10 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: That was 2018. He couldn't throw the ball back then. Is he better now? Who knows? Buck won't call passing plays for him. Noeller and JohnnyAbonny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue85gold Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 12 minutes ago, Mike said: Chris Smith and Ali Fayad back Haba and Fox on the 6 Love Smith back. Bye bye Mitchell Don’t really remember Fayad Haba and Fox is rough. JohnnyAbonny, WildPath and wbbfan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 Just now, blue85gold said: Love Smith back. Bye bye Mitchell Don’t really remember Fayad Haba and Fox is rough. He was dating Princess Diana before she died.. Noeller, Piggy 1 and GCJenks 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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