CFL - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread

[Tracker]

19 hours ago, Noeller said:

They NEVER had a large Inuit community, and at no point in human history was it ever okay to name your entertainment franchise after an ethnic group. 

Goodbye Boston Celtics?

[Bigblue204]

52 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Goodbye Boston Celtics?

Celtics has never been considered a slur.

[Fatty Liver]

On 2024-11-01 at 9:38 PM, wbbfan said:

Qb runs either need to be home run swings or end at the side line. Not power inside stuff. Especially when the guy has a battering ram mentality. It’s fine vs dbs on angles not head on in the tackle box vs front 6 guys. Other teams have done it well in the nfl and ncaa. No excuse why we can’t. (the ravens have long been the standard I hope to see out of that package in this respect.) 

 

Yes it’s a 1 year deal. I’d be stunned if he went elsewhere tbh. If buck stays, he shouldn’t though. 
 

 

Strev. signed a one year sweetheart deal with the assumption better offers would follow, that hasn't materialized and no team will be trying to steal him away in F.A.  He's gone from a bronco buster who could break off big runs at anytime to a workhorse who plows forward and picks up 3 yds.  He can sign another sweetheart deal with the Bombers as a Dan Lefevour clone and play out his career, but at his age he's fast running out of options. 

2018	WPG	18	77	441	10	5.7	29
2019	WPG	15	127	726	12	5.7	38
2024	WPG	13	87	272	10	3.1	27

[17to85]

Yeah a guy who gets hurt halfway into the season and won't be healthy when the season starts isn't going to generate big interest as the leagues next starter... go figure.

[Deiter Fan]

23 hours ago, Noeller said:

Stay away from anything that's even remotely close to "Eskimo"..... It's 2024, for Christ's sake...

The people you're talking about still call themselves Eskimos so I don't really understand the second hand offense. Note the date.

[Noeller]

Just now, Deiter Fan said:

The people you're talking about still call themselves Eskimos so I don't really understand the second hand offense. Note the date.

What does this have to do with an entertainment franchise in Edmonton nicknaming themselves after this particular ethnicity....?

[Deiter Fan]

4 minutes ago, Noeller said:

What does this have to do with an entertainment franchise in Edmonton nicknaming themselves after this particular ethnicity....?

 

6 minutes ago, Deiter Fan said:

Stay away from anything that's even remotely close to "Eskimo"

Perhaps you should tell Eskimos to stay away from the word Eskimo

I've seen it suggested Eskimo is a slur...it's obviously not.

If Edmonton wants to call themselves the Edmonton Ukrainians I would be pleased as punch and would make up a big batch of perogies for the occasion. Pretty sure Eskimos can advocate for themselves...they don't need the help of white people.

Edited November 3 by Deiter Fan

[Fatty Liver]

12 minutes ago, Deiter Fan said:

 

Perhaps you should tell Eskimos to stay away from the word Eskimo

I've seen it suggested Eskimo is a slur...it's obviously not.

If Edmonton wants to call themselves the Edmonton Ukrainians I would be pleased as punch and would make up a big batch of perogies for the occasion. Pretty sure Eskimos can advocate for themselves...they don't need the help of white people.

Sure why not, maybe call them the Edmonton Bohunks or Khokhols, derogatory names can be fun.

[Mark H.]

I'd go with the Edmonton Wonder Breads - part of a complete football season. 

[Deiter Fan]

13 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Sure why not, maybe call them the Edmonton Bohunks or Khokhols, derogatory names can be fun.

Eskimos call themselves Eskimos...so they are being derogatory at themselves? You choose to look at it as negative/pejorative...that's your choice, of course. It could also be looked at as an honour. Incorporate it into the teams celebrations bringing more attention to a culture most know little about.

 

Edited November 3 by Deiter Fan

[Deiter Fan]

3 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

Celtics has never been considered a slur.

 

1 hour ago, Deiter Fan said:

The people you're talking about still call themselves Eskimos so I don't really understand the second hand offense. Note the date.

So these people used a slur to name their co-operative?

[Bigblue204]

1 hour ago, Deiter Fan said:

 

So these people used a slur to name their co-operative?

Those people represent all of those who would call themselves Inuit? Can you not see that some may be offended by certain words while others are not?

If you can not grasp this concept I have no more to say. Nor do I care to try and convince you of basic general kindness. The world moves on without you eventually.

[Goalie]

I’ve had an Eskimo pie and it was good. Just last year at the beach. Great great ice cream bar. I’ve never met an Eskimo or if I did I probably called him Marcel or Vern or whatever his name was. I guess it’s a whatever in the big picture to me. lol. 
 

but since the elks have moved on but apparently perhaps haven’t since their president kept saying the Eskimo way, I’m torn. 
 

never thought of Eskimo as a slur before honestly but have certainly disliked the son of a ***** football team with said name. **** the eskimos we used to say but we were referring to Ricky ray and gizmo Williams. 

Edited November 4 by Goalie

[Fatty Liver]

12 minutes ago, Goalie said:

I’ve had an Eskimo pie and it was good. Just last year at the beach. Great great ice cream bar. I’ve never met an Eskimo or if I did I probably called him Marcel or Vern or whatever his name was. I guess it’s a whatever in the big picture to me. lol. 
 

but since the elks have moved on but apparently perhaps haven’t since their president kept saying the Eskimo way, I’m torn. 
 

never thought of Eskimo as a slur before honestly but have certainly disliked the son of a ***** football team with said name. **** the eskimos we used to say but we were referring to Ricky ray and gizmo Williams. 

Wikipedia has a lot to say on this topic, but it's only accessible to people who can read.

In 2020 pressure mounted from team sponsors such as Belairdirect, Boston Pizza, and Sports Interaction, a First Nations–owned betting company, for the team to change their name. The term Eskimo is an offensive term historically placed on Inuit people. The team officially dropped all use of the word "Eskimo" from the team on July 21, 2020.

Some Inuit, Yupik, Aleut, and other individuals consider the term Eskimo, which is of a disputed etymology, to be pejorative or even offensive. Eskimo continues to be used within a historical, linguistic, archaeological, and cultural context. The governments in Canada and the United States have made moves to cease using the term Eskimo in official documents, but it has not been eliminated, as the word is in some places written into tribal, and therefore national, legal terminology. Canada officially uses the term Inuit to describe the indigenous Canadian people who are living in the country's northern sectors and are not First Nations or Métis. The United States government legally uses Alaska Native for enrolled tribal members of the Yupik, Inuit, and Aleut, and also for non-Eskimos including the Tlingit, the Haida, the Eyak, and the Tsimshian, in addition to at least nine northern Athabaskan/Dene peoples.

[Noeller]

Whether a slur or not, why are we nicknaming sports teams (entertainment franchises) after ethnicities?? It's insane.

[rebusrankin]

11 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Whether a slur or not, why are we nicknaming sports teams (entertainment franchises) after ethnicities?? It's insane.

Its also insane that people think its ok to do so in 2024. 

[Noeller]

7 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Its also insane that people think its ok to do so in 2024. 

Especially this.

[kelownabomberfan]

On 2024-11-02 at 3:38 PM, Brandon said:

The Elks make more sense to me since Edmonton isn't currently known for having a large Inuit community.  I don't think changing the name  back to the Eskimos is going to create a surge of ticket or merch sales. 

If Ottawa can get a nice crowd with a dumb name like Redblacks then I don't see why Edmonton should focus on a name change. Focus on putting a fun outing that can draw casuals and non football fans to the stadium.

 

They need a Rum Hut...and a Shwarma Khan...

[Mark H.]

I mean, the Moose could be the Manitoba Metis.  But for the obvious reason, they aren't.

[kelownabomberfan]

6 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

I mean, the Moose could be the Manitoba Metis.  But for the obvious reason, they aren't.

Manitoba Mennonites. All the players take a nap for half an hour after the second period, while the crowd has faspa and discusses the pros and cons of various different combine manufacturers. 

Edited November 4 by kelownabomberfan

[SpeedFlex27]

On 2024-11-01 at 11:02 AM, Fatty Liver said:

His contract expires, they shouldn't waste time or money rediscovering what they already know about Strev, he isn't their future QB.  Time to admit he failed to reignite the magic of 2019 and move forward.

i agree. Time to move on with a backup who can actually play the entire playbook.

[17to85]

52 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

i agree. Time to move on with a backup who can actually play the entire playbook.

I agree, bring streveler back and give him the whole playbook.

[SpeedFlex27]

5 hours ago, 17to85 said:

I agree, bring streveler back and give him the whole playbook.

He can't. If Zach goes down for half a season we're hooped. Fans heep saying he needs a chance. Buck & osh see him everyday at practice. They know he can't play the whole playbook. All he is, is a short yardage qb. At 31, now with a leg injury & a lot of mileage on his body his ceiling has already been reached. There are other backups better than him. I have my doubts that he'll be back. 

[17to85]

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

He can't. If Zach goes down for half a season we're hooped. Fans heep saying he needs a chance. Buck & osh see him everyday at practice. They know he can't play the whole playbook. All he is, is a short yardage qb. At 31, now with a leg injury & a lot of mileage on his body his ceiling has already been reached. There are other backups better than him. I have my doubts that he'll be back. 

Proof? Because again if we're just going for the appeal to authority you believe Jake Thomas is the best DL on the team.?

Streveler can pass, he's shown that ability and if he couldn't pass he wouldn't have spent as much time in the NFL as he did. 

[SpeedFlex27]

27 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Proof? Because again if we're just going for the appeal to authority you believe Jake Thomas is the best DL on the team.?

Streveler can pass, he's shown that ability and if he couldn't pass he wouldn't have spent as much time in the NFL as he did. 

What proof? Give me your proof? I have zero expectations for Streveler. He is what he is. No wishing that he be given the entire playbook will change anything. Buck ain't stupid. He saw the way he practiced & threw the ball everyday. It's time to move on.