Mike Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 37 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Kick returners & receiver seems to be the weakness of this scouting group we have. It almost seems that Dalton Schoen was a fluke. So kick returners and receivers are a weak spot despite us bringing in two of the best players at those positions that the league has seen in a decade? JCon and Noeller 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 23 minutes ago, Mike said: So kick returners and receivers are a weak spot despite us bringing in two of the best players at those positions that the league has seen in a decade? Well...if you're busting their nuts on other guys who started in other CFL camps you might as well do it on Janarion Grant too. Started in Hamilton's camp. I believe it is a major weak spot. Aside from Grant and maybe Kevin Fogg this personnel department over a decade have struggled greatly to find/coach someone up who can perform the basic tasks of a punt returner....secure the ball and get 10 yards. In terms of receiver I don't really know what they were going for this year but we had a ton of the 5'11 190 guys in camp. And that's basically who we have left. Hopefully they are fast because Collaros only goes vertical. Probably should be looking more for the Lawler body types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolby Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 I know we couldnt keep em, Bailey would've been nice right now. Tracker, Rex_Banner and coach17 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 10 Author Report Share Posted June 10 7 minutes ago, Nolby said: I know we couldnt keep em, Bailey would've been nice right now. I think his loss is a big one in the room. He always brought the fire. JohnnyAbonny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 21 minutes ago, Goalie said: I think his loss is a big one in the room. He always brought the fire. Was wondering how much mojo was lost between losing him and Hardrick.... coach17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, do or die said: Was wondering how much mojo was lost between losing him and Hardrick.... Super Duper Negatron, Noeller, HardCoreBlue and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 (edited) 8 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said: Well...if you're busting their nuts on other guys who started in other CFL camps you might as well do it on Janarion Grant too. Started in Hamilton's camp. I believe it is a major weak spot. Aside from Grant and maybe Kevin Fogg this personnel department over a decade have struggled greatly to find/coach someone up who can perform the basic tasks of a punt returner....secure the ball and get 10 yards. In terms of receiver I don't really know what they were going for this year but we had a ton of the 5'11 190 guys in camp. And that's basically who we have left. Hopefully they are fast because Collaros only goes vertical. Probably should be looking more for the Lawler body types. That’s what made me excited for Pokey Wilson when the signed him. He could be huge for stretching the field. 6 hours ago, Goalie said: I think his loss is a big one in the room. He always brought the fire. Without being there, I’d speculate the biggest loss to that room was Andrew. Edited June 10 by JohnnyAbonny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex_Banner Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 Maybe totally stupid suggestion, but Is Greg Ellingson worse than any in-house options we have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenrider55 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 7 minutes ago, Rex_Banner said: Maybe totally stupid suggestion, but Is Greg Ellingson worse than any in-house options we have? I think after his knee injury last year, his career might be done. Bigblue204 and JohnnyAbonny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Rex_Banner said: Maybe totally stupid suggestion, but Is Greg Ellingson worse than any in-house options we have? If you're looking to the past, which I don't think they should be, Agudosi is currently a free agent and already knows the playbook. Edited June 11 by Fatty Liver Deiter Fan, Rex_Banner and Tracker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 It's a nice thought but pulling guys off their couch is unlikely to yield any immediate results. Bigblue204, BigBlueFanatic and JohnnyAbonny 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolby Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 25 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: If you're looking to the past, which I don't think they should be, Agudosi is currently a free agent and already knows the playbook. He does know the system, could be a size mismatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 28 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: If you're looking to the past, which I don't think they should be, Agudosi is currently a free agent and already knows the playbook. Meh, he was one of the younger guys who did have ample opportunity here. I’d pass, rather see what the new WRs can actually do. Super Duper Negatron and Goalie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Negatron Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 7 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said: Meh, he was one of the younger guys who did have ample opportunity here. I’d pass, rather see what the new WRs can actually do. I called Agudosi a nothing burger last year and everyone laughed at me. JohnnyAbonny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 3 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said: I called Agudosi a nothing burger last year and everyone laughed at me. But he’s tall! Super Duper Negatron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 33 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said: It's a nice thought but pulling guys off their couch is unlikely to yield any immediate results. Says you. I’m ready to go. Fatty Liver and BBlink 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 2 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said: Meh, he was one of the younger guys who did have ample opportunity here. I’d pass, rather see what the new WRs can actually do. He's older than Kenny Lawler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 8 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said: He's older than Kenny Lawler. Newer guys then, point remains, he had his shot here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 12 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said: But he’s tall! Logan Stanley Syndrome. Piggy 1, JohnnyAbonny and Stickem 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 On 2024-06-10 at 9:10 AM, SpeedFlex27 said: Kick returners & receiver seems to be the weakness of this scouting group we have. It almost seems that Dalton Schoen was a fluke. Receivers I disagree with, and returners? How would we know? We haven't, in earnest, been looking for one since we scooped up Grant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 7 hours ago, GCn20 said: Receivers I disagree with, and returners? How would we know? We haven't, in earnest, been looking for one since we scooped up Grant. Receivers, I mean Schoen? They’ve brought in quite a few others that got the job done over the years, just not all top of the league or anything. Returners before Grant, we had some decent, some not. Troy Stoudermire, Charles Nelson, Ryan Lankford all had their moments. Again not spectacular, but average-solid. I’m still holding out for Chris Smith, guy looked really good and @Booch said he’s kicking around still. Piggy 1 and WildPath 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 9 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said: Receivers, I mean Schoen? They’ve brought in quite a few others that got the job done over the years, just not all top of the league or anything. Returners before Grant, we had some decent, some not. Troy Stoudermire, Charles Nelson, Ryan Lankford all had their moments. Again not spectacular, but average-solid. I’m still holding out for Chris Smith, guy looked really good and @Booch said he’s kicking around still. Then I look at a team like the Argos or Lions and envy their receiving depth .. they always seem to have someone new, each year, capable of stepping in and making an impact. I also think Buck isn't exactly an offensive mastermind (and is somewhat handicapped having cut his teeth under LaPo). Piggy 1 and JohnnyAbonny 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 1 minute ago, voodoochylde said: Then I look at a team like the Argos or Lions and envy their receiving depth .. they always seem to have someone new, each year, capable of stepping in and making an impact. I also think Buck isn't exactly an offensive mastermind (and is somewhat handicapped having cut his teeth under LaPo). Agree with this. I think Buck struggles hard at adjusting in-game. Piggy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 I wonder about our offense purely from a collaros standpoint. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 (edited) 22 minutes ago, 17to85 said: I wonder about our offense purely from a collaros standpoint. Yup he’s not the 10 play TD QB. He’s 4 plays or less. Plus doesn’t check down. I’m curious also. He’s not Matt nichols dink n dunk but that’s not a bad thing when he’s on but when he’s not on, they need to sit him for a bit. Love Zach. Good dude. Wonder if hanging with T Swift went to his head. Probably but # me too. Edited June 12 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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