voodoochylde Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 10 minutes ago, Booch said: man of the bush Booch, BaconNBigBlue, captaincanuck12 and 3 others 6
wbbfan Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 Keys to the game imo, 1, zach needs to be comfy. He needs to shake the rust off, find and maintain a rhythm, plus have better pass pro. Key piece here is Feltmate. I expect to see him in a lot on passing downs for pass pro. 2, Need some one to step up on offence to support zach. 2 of our and the leagues best weapons are out. Need that gap filled. Key guy here is wheatfall imo, he's a real sleeper but is the exact type of guy zach loves to lean on. 3, better game from the secondary. Mainly ford and holm need to gel and improve. We need to come out hot today, no more sluggishness. HardCoreBlue, Noeller and BaconNBigBlue 2 1
voodoochylde Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 A couple of quick thoughts about tonight's game: Offensively and defensively the big boys need to do their job. Ottawa has a load in the interior of their defensive line, can our hogs hold up? Defensively, we need more pressure. Brown will extend plays with his legs but he's no real threat to run. Hit him. Hurry him. Get hands in his face and don't let him see the field. While I love the "go for the throat" instinct, Zach needs to be patient and not force the big play. The killshot is great but so is staying on the field and playing complementary football. Some sustained drives and not settling for 3 will be essential. Let's not rely on our special teams tonight - please? Ford needs to shake off last week and show some of what made him so intriguing when he was here last. Called it out last week and will call it out again - chemistry and communication in the secondary is still a question and it needs to improve. Will Augustine show he's more than a one trick pony? Great speed, works hard on teams and can make a defence pay but can he be a reliable target when he needs to? Can he pick up the rush and help keep Zach clean? Is he capable of getting those gritty yards to salt away a game? I think Drew Wolitarsky may have a big game. Is this the week I'm pleasantly surprised by what Mitchell brings to the team? Not counting on it. HardCoreBlue and wbbfan 1 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 4 minutes ago, voodoochylde said: Is this the week I'm pleasantly surprised by what Mitchell brings to the team? Not counting on it. Like Mitchell- I'm going to drop this here- No. No you won't be.
wbbfan Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 It's going to be a real telling game for the coaching staff. Ott has soo many guys that are former bombers, but especially with Rose on the PR, and brown. They know our personnel, and what we do inside and out. And we know brown far better than the ott coaching staff. We don't have game film on them this year, and they do have it on us this year. How well we game planned for this one will be key to our early success, but how we adjust on both sides of the ball to them is going to be the major indicator for our coaching staff. We will have to out adjust them no question in my mind. We can't wait too long to do it either.
Atomic Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 (edited) Would be nice to see some of this from Myron Mitchell https://www.espn.co.uk/video/clip/_/id/27494627 Edited June 13 by Atomic
wbbfan Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 1 minute ago, Atomic said: Would be nice to see some of this from Myron Mitchell https://www.espn.co.uk/video/clip/_/id/27494627 That'd be gravy for sure. All I want him to do is 1, catch every ball possible in the air. 2, dont signal for a fair catch lol. 3, dont hesitate when he catches it or when he gets to the point of first contact, just go. 4, don't fumble or do any thing stupid. If he does all that and gets just 5 yards per punt return and 20 yards per kick off, that's good. 10 yards per punt and 30 per kick off isn't worth it if the ball is bouncing around etc.
voodoochylde Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 3 minutes ago, wbbfan said: That'd be gravy for sure. All I want him to do is 1, catch every ball possible in the air. 2, dont signal for a fair catch lol. 3, dont hesitate when he catches it or when he gets to the point of first contact, just go. 4, don't fumble or do any thing stupid. If he does all that and gets just 5 yards per punt return and 20 yards per kick off, that's good. 10 yards per punt and 30 per kick off isn't worth it if the ball is bouncing around etc. It's one of the things that made Marvin Coleman great back in the day. He was never going to be a dynamic returner in the mold of Janarion Grant but he was SUPER dependable and never lost you field position. wbbfan and JohnnyAbonny 2
17to85 Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 Loved the Marvin Coleman returns. Catch the ball in the air every time and go forward. Noeller and wbbfan 2
wbbfan Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 5 minutes ago, voodoochylde said: It's one of the things that made Marvin Coleman great back in the day. He was never going to be a dynamic returner in the mold of Janarion Grant but he was SUPER dependable and never lost you field position. Yeah Coleman was in the twilight of his career here, no longer the explosive break away guy but he had such a great understanding of the job and did exactly what you needed. If any thing I’d be fine with a smart role player in the kr role rather than trying for the next grant or nothing less.
Stickem Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, wbbfan said: That'd be gravy for sure. All I want him to do is 1, catch every ball possible in the air. 2, dont signal for a fair catch lol. 3, dont hesitate when he catches it or when he gets to the point of first contact, just go. 4, don't fumble or do any thing stupid. If he does all that and gets just 5 yards per punt return and 20 yards per kick off, that's good. 10 yards per punt and 30 per kick off isn't worth it if the ball is bouncing around etc. No 1...just secure the ball ........No 2 IF he see's something forming in front of him, get behind it and see what develops BUT above all SECURE THE BALL....I'll give him a break on the one he coughed up agaist the Als.....Chalk it up to lack of experience....He can't do that in this one Edited June 13 by Stickem wbbfan 1
BomberBall. Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 2 minutes ago, Goalie said: A tornado watch is on In Ottawa currently. Yikes. Looks like the bad stuff will have tapered off by game time though. Goalie 1
17to85 Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 14 minutes ago, Stickem said: No 1...just secure the ball ........No 2 IF he see's something forming in front of him, get behind it and see what develops BUT above all SECURE THE BALL....I'll give him a break on the one he coughed up agaist the Als.....Chalk it up to lack of experience....He can't do that in this one Yeah fumbles can happen, the part that I found the most egregious was how often he failed to get under the ball and catch it. Letting the ball bounce all the damned time is just unacceptable. wbbfan 1
wbbfan Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 3 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Yeah fumbles can happen, the part that I found the most egregious was how often he failed to get under the ball and catch it. Letting the ball bounce all the damned time is just unacceptable. Or even how he misjudged the distance frequently and had to run then stop to catch, making it hard for him to get going again.
17to85 Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 Yeah that's what I was talking about when I said not getting under the ball. Just appeared to have no concept of tracking the ball in the air. wbbfan 1
Goalie Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 (edited) 18 minutes ago, BomberBall. said: Yikes. Looks like the bad stuff will have tapered off by game time though. Yes looks like around 5pm Ottawa time. Edited June 13 by Goalie wbbfan 1
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: Loved the Marvin Coleman returns. Catch the ball in the air every time and go forward. Or the ol Alan Boyko return, catch the ball and fall down. wbbfan, Rod Black and BigBlueFanatic 3
Rod Black Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 15 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said: Or the ol Alan Boyko return, catch the ball and fall down. Yep. Good times. JohnnyAbonny and wbbfan 2
Bigblue204 Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 1 hour ago, Stickem said: No 1...just secure the ball ........No 2 IF he see's something forming in front of him, get behind it and see what develops BUT above all SECURE THE BALL....I'll give him a break on the one he coughed up agaist the Als.....Chalk it up to lack of experience....He can't do that in this one I believe he also fumbled in the 2nd preseason game (after a catch not on a return). So I am concerned about his ball security. JohnnyAbonny 1
3rdand1.5 Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 My Bomber keys to the game; Zach- was it rust....whatever it was the ball goes through his hands and he needs to better with it JA- he is not Brady, but my eyes said Brady was worse than we were led into believing health wise last game, can JA be better than injured Brady O-line-Kola probably had his worst game as a Bomber, looking for redemption this week Receiver-Lawler out hurts us, Woli played with fantastic intensity last week, that needs to spread and guys don't need to be Kenny, but guys need to get open and block D-line- is 6 guys enough.....humidity is supposed to be very high with damn near tornado weather...six is a slim number Biggie-is he going to play like biggie we all love....or biggie in last years GC? Ford- I may be overly harsh in my criticism, but he was one of the worst DB's last week.....league wide....he needs to bounce back Castillo-no chip no issues..... Sheehan- I am REALLY tired of punts out of bounds... Mitchel- doesn't need to break one, but secure and go forward Coaching-Woli had "it" last week, coaches need to make sure everyone has the intensity we should have JohnnyAbonny and rebusrankin 2
17to85 Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 1 minute ago, 3rdand1.5 said: JA- he is not Brady, but my eyes said Brady was worse than we were led into believing health wise last game, can JA be better than injured Brady He won't grind out a game like Brady but he can pick up bigger chunks so it will just be different. Noeller 1
wbbfan Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 19 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: I believe he also fumbled in the 2nd preseason game (after a catch not on a return). So I am concerned about his ball security. Wasn’t him, he didn’t get any returns in the pre season. Just now, 17to85 said: He won't grind out a game like Brady but he can pick up bigger chunks so it will just be different. Passing game has to adjust and expect a lot more second and longs. I don’t expect him to see 15-20 carries any way though. I think we will see a lot more sweep, strevy etc. rebusrankin 1
JohnnyAbonny Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 41 minutes ago, 3rdand1.5 said: My Bomber keys to the game; Zach- was it rust....whatever it was the ball goes through his hands and he needs to better with it JA- he is not Brady, but my eyes said Brady was worse than we were led into believing health wise last game, can JA be better than injured Brady O-line-Kola probably had his worst game as a Bomber, looking for redemption this week Receiver-Lawler out hurts us, Woli played with fantastic intensity last week, that needs to spread and guys don't need to be Kenny, but guys need to get open and block D-line- is 6 guys enough.....humidity is supposed to be very high with damn near tornado weather...six is a slim number Biggie-is he going to play like biggie we all love....or biggie in last years GC? Ford- I may be overly harsh in my criticism, but he was one of the worst DB's last week.....league wide....he needs to bounce back Castillo-no chip no issues..... Sheehan- I am REALLY tired of punts out of bounds... Mitchel- doesn't need to break one, but secure and go forward Coaching-Woli had "it" last week, coaches need to make sure everyone has the intensity we should have I’m just tired of him as our punter period. Has he ever actually one time kicked us out of trouble? rebusrankin 1
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