3 turds plus crappy honker vet preseason part 2

[voodoochylde]

14 minutes ago, Booch said:

obtaining your army reserve card might get a foot in the door....maybe comment in practice "whoa boy...am i ever going hard".....

 

I dont think Kolo knows what to do after a chip...50 block, or when to release engagement...orjsut cant maintain it..

I think a lot of Kolo's deficiencies stem from him being unable to sustain his blocks.

He was routinely manhandled by more physical / athletic linemen last year and that's rearing its ugly head again this year.  Perfect example is how Mustafa Johnson was consistently eating Kolo's lunch last week.

[Fatty Liver]

4 hours ago, wbbfan said:

That’s a beyond terrible take on Dobson sorry that’s hilarious. 

Are you denying the sacks happened or just being selective in your criticism of the O-line play?

[voodoochylde]

1 minute ago, Fatty Liver said:

Are you denying the sacks happened or just being selective in your criticism of the O-line play?

Just adding my two bits here .. none of the three interior linemen get a pass for last night - each of them were bad but, of the three, Dobson was "least bad".

[JohnnyAbonny]

Yeah any team that’s good over multiple generations of players gives guys like Neufeld the old ultimatum before/during camp. 

43 minutes ago, voodoochylde said:

I think a lot of Kolo's deficiencies stem from him being unable to sustain his blocks.

He was routinely manhandled by more physical / athletic linemen last year and that's rearing its ugly head again this year.  Perfect example is how Mustafa Johnson was consistently eating Kolo's lunch last week.

I don’t remember a game in the last year where I didn’t see Kolo get knocked on his pratt at least once. He looks like the passive fat kid that gets put on the OL in peewee just because. 

Edited June 14 by JohnnyAbonny

[wbbfan]

45 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Are you denying the sacks happened or just being selective in your criticism of the O-line play?

I’m being accurate. He was the 2nd best ol last night. He’s maybe the most athletic lineman in the entire league. Guards play with bend too lol. 
 

48 minutes ago, voodoochylde said:

I think a lot of Kolo's deficiencies stem from him being unable to sustain his blocks.

He was routinely manhandled by more physical / athletic linemen last year and that's rearing its ugly head again this year.  Perfect example is how Mustafa Johnson was consistently eating Kolo's lunch last week.

100%. He just gets driven back by every one. 
 

45 minutes ago, voodoochylde said:

Just adding my two bits here .. none of the three interior linemen get a pass for last night - each of them were bad but, of the three, Dobson was "least bad".

dobson does get a barely passing grade only Bryant gets a good grade. Lofton is a mild fail, neuf and kola get the worst grade our ol has seen in years. 
 

8 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

Yeah any team that’s good over multiple generations of players gives guys like Neufeld the old ultimatum before/during camp. 

I don’t remember a game in the last year where I didn’t see Kolo get knocked on his pratt at least once. He looks like the passive fat kid that gets put on the OL in peewee just because. 

He’s skinny fat build too. He’s small for the position and about as athletic as the average poster on here. 

1 hour ago, Booch said:

obtaining your army reserve card might get a foot in the door....maybe comment in practice "whoa boy...am i ever going hard".....

 

I dont think Kolo knows what to do after a chip...50 block, or when to release engagement...orjsut cant maintain it..

Lofton isn’t a tackle, he’s a guard. Kolo isn’t a pro ol. All he can do is snap. Literally that’s it. We are going to see a nose player every game he starts till his career is done. 

[Fatty Liver]

26 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I’m being accurate. He was the 2nd best ol last night. He’s maybe the most athletic lineman in the entire league. Guards play with bend too lol. 
 

 

Faint praise, you can see by Stanley's body language he's re-living 2015-16 and wondering why he came back.

[Goalie]

2 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Faint praise, you can see by Stanley's body language he's re-living 2015-16 and wondering why he came back.

Well he can quit if that’s his body language already. Guy has also lost a step. 

Edited June 14 by Goalie

[wbbfan]

10 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Faint praise, you can see by Stanley's body language he's re-living 2015-16 and wondering why he came back.

Grasping at straws cus youre reeling from us being on the wrong side of a turn around. 

The least upset person in the blue n gold world about all of this seems to be mos. 

[Stickem]

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

 

The least upset person in the blue n gold world about all of this seems to be mos. 

I wonder when Wade will have a sit down with him.....Let's see....we lost the Cup....then 2preseasoners ....and now 2 reg. season games.... and I don't see a win next week in BC.....Does OSH blame it all on injuries if the losing streak continues????or does it go deeper

[17to85]

Hear me out... that first game against bc last year where they thumped us... that broke collaros. Sure he rebounded in the rematch against bc, but ever since then he's become gunshy in the pocket. It was only saved last season because of Brady Oliveira and the run game. I really thought the ability to tandem streveler and collaros was the key to getting collaros through the season... so let's give streveler some qb plays and not just make him run into the line. Prukop could do that if that's all you want.

[Eternal optimist]

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

Hear me out... that first game against bc last year where they thumped us... that broke collaros. Sure he rebounded in the rematch against bc, but ever since then he's become gunshy in the pocket. It was only saved last season because of Brady Oliveira and the run game. I really thought the ability to tandem streveler and collaros was the key to getting collaros through the season... so let's give streveler some qb plays and not just make him run into the line. Prukop could do that if that's all you want.

I would agree with this - particularly with how they're using Streveler, he hasn't even thrown a pass yet this year which is becoming super predictable.

[wbbfan]

13 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Hear me out... that first game against bc last year where they thumped us... that broke collaros. Sure he rebounded in the rematch against bc, but ever since then he's become gunshy in the pocket. It was only saved last season because of Brady Oliveira and the run game. I really thought the ability to tandem streveler and collaros was the key to getting collaros through the season... so let's give streveler some qb plays and not just make him run into the line. Prukop could do that if that's all you want.

I think that was a big step backwards moment for him for sure. I think the gc loss to the argos started it

[JohnnyAbonny]

9 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I think that was a big step backwards moment for him for sure. I think the gc loss to the argos started it

Maybe because I saw it live but to me it was the 2022 loss in Hamilton. 
He got absolutely destroyed like 5 times that game. The first time as a Bomber that he got just beat to ****.
He was a little awry for the rest of 22. 

23, I don’t think it was the BC game. He bounced back nicely and shredded them a few weeks later. 
To me, it was getting demolished by Ceresna in the Edmonton game, he was never quite as sharp afterward. 

These things compound. Especially a QB with a history of head injuries, those incidents must add up to his comfort level in the pocket.