GCJenks Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 4 minutes ago, Piggy 1 said: U really believe its because Eli didnt get the jab? If so, thats bloody pathetic...... I don’t know what it is for sure but he was starting and excelling before and is a back up now… Deiter Fan and Piggy 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggy 1 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 1 minute ago, GCJenks said: I don’t know what it is for sure but he was starting and excelling before and is a back up now… Yeah,when hes in there hes a road grader, Osh needs to have his noggin examined. GCJenks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 (edited) I've said for yrs now....Osh plays his fav's...and allows his bias in some circumstances over rule the smart/right choice...and it totally handcuffs our roster If you aint one his "boi's" and have the wrong B.C in some instances....you are behind the 8-ball and good luck getting on the roster, and if you do....good luck with .getting significant reps if u actually got lucky and got on...and thats just not good It was easy to gloss over it and hide before....but his Bias' players now aren't good enough...and his "Boi's" don't have the chops anymore...and here we are I would not be worried...or shed a tear if he got fired....we'd be just fine...and definitely better and a more balanced team....one that takes advantage of all the rules afforded to us, and one that plays the best players at each position Edited July 25 by Booch rebusrankin and Piggy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 (edited) Its pretty obvious by a number of the comments on here that we're not rocket scientists , but if even we can (mostly) agree its the the refusal/reluctance to act on significant areas of concern thats hurting this team, then where there's smoke there's likely fire. Edited July 25 by Pete Tracker, Goalie, JohnnyAbonny and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 To be fair Okay, so you're a rocket scientist That don't impress me much So you got the brain but have you got the touch Don't get me wrong, yeah I think you're alright But that won't keep me warm in the middle of the night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 but a win saturday might! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 6 minutes ago, Pete said: Its pretty obvious by a number of the comments on here that we're not rocket scientists , but if even we can (mostly) agree its the the refusal/reluctance to act on significant areas of concern thats hurting this team, then where there's smoke there's likely fire. It also doesn't help that the moves they do make (like bringing in Grimes) are a bit head scratching. Time will tell if those moves were worthwhile or not but their track record with moves like this isn't great ((see Naaman Roosevelt). Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 Problem is they're fixated on most of the losses being close, so just clean up a few things... well most of their wins the last 5 years were close too... used to be we had the talent and depth to make the plays needed to win the tight ones, now they don't have either. They need to realize that before they can fix it. WildPath and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCanuck89 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 4 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Their real strength was our defense in 2019 & 21. Teams found it hard to run, pass & especially score on us back then. We put a ton of pressure on the pass rush. Then, Walters just let that great defense age out & wither away. Stove hasn't played for us since 2021. Three years later, we still haven't found his replacement. Walters refused to go after any nose guards or D Ends in free agency. So, here we are. It used to be our offense would outscore the other guys. Now, we can't do that anymore. They saw this coming. THEY HAD TO!! God Almighty, that's the job of the HC, GM & Scouts. To see & recognize when players need to be replaced. Yet, very little was done. We keep guys like Jake Thomas & let Janarion Grant & Rasheed Bailey go to free agency. Coaches favourites still play. What the Hell happened to the decision making on this team? How has it been allowed to come down to this? He didn't need to go after nose guards. You have Lawson, Samson, Smekel. DEs yes. BigBlueFanatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 55 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Problem is they're fixated on most of the losses being close, so just clean up a few things... well most of their wins the last 5 years were close too... used to be we had the talent and depth to make the plays needed to win the tight ones This is the season, right here. The past couple years we won a lot of close games that we just as easily could have lost. Now we're just barely losing them, instead of just barely winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 9 minutes ago, Noeller said: This is the season, right here. The past couple years we won a lot of close games that we just as easily could have lost. Now we're just barely losing them, instead of just barely winning. I'd also say that if we DID win a few of those close games this year, it's easier to paper over the obvious holes on this team. Say we are 5-2 as opposed to 2-5 .. we've won a few more games but still have an aging roster with no real succession plan in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue Posted July 25 Author Report Share Posted July 25 VOTE of NON-CONFIDENCE: Miller the bombers CEO saved this franchise once… And he needs to do it again by and large you let the head coach do his thing… We all know that and the reasons However, now it's different. There's a reason why coaches don't stay with their team forever… Great leaders are always trying to repeat their great successes but so many consequential and ongoing decisions show that they are not thinking straight. Success was found by applying the right principles to the situation and utilizing the people willing to take those critical steps. What proves to be true afterwards is that each situation requires new and unique solutions. Trying to apply past solutions to a very different present situation just doesn't work. It takes a unique individual to apply new solutions to new challenges. It takes a humility to do this. WARNING SHOT ACROSS THE BOW if Walters can use a little influence and "order" MOS to make certain changes, maybe the season can be saved. If Miller looks in and has a heart-to-heart with O'Shea maybe he will realize he's being put on notice. It would be stupid to not tell O'Shea that his job is on the line right now. Otherwise we will just continue to spiral and he will be fired in the off-season. PLANNED Rebuilding next winter simply is too late. Doing nothing is a vote of nonconfidence. Taking corrective action now is a vote of confidence, if things have not already gone too far. We just need our whole team to lead from wherever they are standing. This is executives, coaches, and players. It's not a matter of authority; it's a matter of pulling together to lift each other up as we face the hard realities. Piggy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 42 minutes ago, BigBlue said: VOTE of NON-CONFIDENCE: Miller the bombers CEO saved this franchise once… And he needs to do it again by and large you let the head coach do his thing… We all know that and the reasons However, now it's different. There's a reason why coaches don't stay with their team forever… Great leaders are always trying to repeat their great successes but so many consequential and ongoing decisions show that they are not thinking straight. Success was found by applying the right principles to the situation and utilizing the people willing to take those critical steps. What proves to be true afterwards is that each situation requires new and unique solutions. Trying to apply past solutions to a very different present situation just doesn't work. It takes a unique individual to apply new solutions to new challenges. It takes a humility to do this. WARNING SHOT ACROSS THE BOW if Walters can use a little influence and "order" MOS to make certain changes, maybe the season can be saved. If Miller looks in and has a heart-to-heart with O'Shea maybe he will realize he's being put on notice. It would be stupid to not tell O'Shea that his job is on the line right now. Otherwise we will just continue to spiral and he will be fired in the off-season. PLANNED Rebuilding next winter simply is too late. Doing nothing is a vote of nonconfidence. Taking corrective action now is a vote of confidence, if things have not already gone too far. We just need our whole team to lead from wherever they are standing. This is executives, coaches, and players. It's not a matter of authority; it's a matter of pulling together to lift each other up as we face the hard realities. from listening to Osh....watching what he does...his reasonings/excuses for whats going on...he has no inclination to stray from what he "thinks" is the winning formula...he's stubbornly clueless...and I think he lacks forward thinking....he great at looking back tho Piggy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Sculpin Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 5 hours ago, Booch said: I've said for yrs now....Osh plays his fav's...and allows his bias in some circumstances over rule the smart/right choice...and it totally handcuffs our roster If you aint one his "boi's" and have the wrong B.C in some instances....you are behind the 8-ball and good luck getting on the roster, and if you do....good luck with .getting significant reps if u actually got lucky and got on...and thats just not good It was easy to gloss over it and hide before....but his Bias' players now aren't good enough...and his "Boi's" don't have the chops anymore...and here we are I would not be worried...or shed a tear if he got fired....we'd be just fine...and definitely better and a more balanced team....one that takes advantage of all the rules afforded to us, and one that plays the best players at each position This is one of the head-scratchers for me (bolded above). I'm not up on all of the rules but I think that I read earlier here that we're starting more Canadians than mandated.....10 or 11 when only 7 or 8 (?) are required. I understand the whole patriotic, nationalistic thing but aren't Canuck starters paid on the whole more than equivalent imports. Cheaper and most likely better imports are probably available. And are we even making use of the Designated Nationalized American rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 6 hours ago, BigBlue said: VOTE of NON-CONFIDENCE: Miller the bombers CEO saved this franchise once… And he needs to do it again by and large you let the head coach do his thing… We all know that and the reasons However, now it's different. There's a reason why coaches don't stay with their team forever… Great leaders are always trying to repeat their great successes but so many consequential and ongoing decisions show that they are not thinking straight. Success was found by applying the right principles to the situation and utilizing the people willing to take those critical steps. What proves to be true afterwards is that each situation requires new and unique solutions. Trying to apply past solutions to a very different present situation just doesn't work. It takes a unique individual to apply new solutions to new challenges. It takes a humility to do this. WARNING SHOT ACROSS THE BOW if Walters can use a little influence and "order" MOS to make certain changes, maybe the season can be saved. If Miller looks in and has a heart-to-heart with O'Shea maybe he will realize he's being put on notice. It would be stupid to not tell O'Shea that his job is on the line right now. Otherwise we will just continue to spiral and he will be fired in the off-season. PLANNED Rebuilding next winter simply is too late. Doing nothing is a vote of nonconfidence. Taking corrective action now is a vote of confidence, if things have not already gone too far. We just need our whole team to lead from wherever they are standing. This is executives, coaches, and players. It's not a matter of authority; it's a matter of pulling together to lift each other up as we face the hard realities. Agreed. The players know far better than we that their jobs depend on their performances, and if they see that the coach(es) and/or management have no accountability for their actions or inactions, that will be a divisive issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 17 hours ago, Booch said: from listening to Osh....watching what he does...his reasonings/excuses for whats going on...he has no inclination to stray from what he "thinks" is the winning formula...he's stubbornly clueless...and I think he lacks forward thinking....he great at looking back tho Winning formula: “Hey Kyle, sign 4-5 generational talents at their prime, then we’ll drive them into the ground” BigBlueFanatic, Piggy 1 and Booch 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 11 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said: Winning formula: “Hey Kyle, sign 4-5 generational talents at their prime, then we’ll drive them into the ground” and not replace or set up a transitional player to groom as we do that....but start less than adequate guys in key spots....just because JohnnyAbonny and Piggy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 7 minutes ago, Booch said: and not replace or set up a transitional player to groom as we do that....but start less than adequate guys in key spots....just because They should have had guys in place around 2022 to take over like Brady did. The MLB spot bugs me the most. Tony J might be good, for sure physically would offer more than Biggie does right now. The optics of having 2 years to find someone and the best they could do is a guy who Chris Jones of all people couldn’t find a spot for are downright terrible. We have the worst LBs in the league and it’s not close. To run out the same corps as last years GC, in Week 7 is inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 (edited) My bad vibes started to kick in, watching that inane X game at home, which resembled a lost cattle call......followed up by the Als pushing us around in the opener at home. Not seeing some expected faces used as replacements (this had to be the year).......and saw a team that simply looked complacent and totally unprepared. Grant's situation was a symptom.....for the sake of a few grand, we just let our field position flipper walk away.......and replaced him with meh. The ongoing use of this roster, has made me reach for yet more gin. Edited July 26 by do or die BBRT, Piggy 1 and BigBlueFanatic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBRT Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 2 hours ago, do or die said: My bad vibes started to kick in, watching that inane X game at home, which resembled a lost cattle call......followed up by the Als pushing us around in the opener at home. Not seeing some expected faces used as replacements (this had to be the year).......and saw a team that simply looked complacent and totally unprepared. Grant's situation was a symptom.....for the sake of a few grand, we just let our field position flipper walk away.......and replaced him with meh. The ongoing use of this roster, has made me reach for yet more gin. I am leaning toward your point of view. I do have to say that my enthusium will still always be there for my Bombers but at the moment I am starting to lean toward time for a change at the top (Head Coach that is to say). I do not know what goes on behind closed doors but from the outside it at least appears to me that changes are needed sooner than later. Just bad roster management from my point of view is the major issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal optimist Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 Always glad to see them win and obviously times are easier then, but i dont get down when they lose. After all, sports is just a form of entertainment and there isn't anything I, as a fan, individually could have done to change the outcome. Win or lose the beer at the next home game will be cold, hopefully the weather is good. That is all you need to have a good time if your mindset is right. Control what you can control, and let that which does not matter, truly slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue Posted July 26 Author Report Share Posted July 26 When the Blue lose, the problem is Monday morning the whole city goes into a black funk and it can last all week ... its really hard on biz sales Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 3 hours ago, BigBlue said: When the Blue lose, the problem is Monday morning the whole city goes into a black funk and it can last all week ... its really hard on biz sales I mean, that’s how I personally am to a point but I’d hardly say the whole city. I think that kind of overestimates the emotional investment of the average casual fan. Super Duper Negatron, Noeller, MOBomberFan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 3 hours ago, BigBlue said: When the Blue lose, the problem is Monday morning the whole city goes into a black funk and it can last all week ... its really hard on biz sales Its not the losses per se. Its the infuriating way O'Shea fumbles away talent and opportunity and sleepwalks into losses. BigBlueFanatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 32 minutes ago, Tracker said: Its not the losses per se. Its the infuriating way O'Shea fumbles away talent and opportunity and sleepwalks into losses. **** we've all seen plenty of bad losses, it's the losses that don't have to happen and the refusal to change the approach that led to those losses that causes the anger. HardCoreBlue and Tracker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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