3 stars plus hh punching holes in donuts

[Fatty Liver]

50 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Show your work

For what it's worth, considering the teams they played for were not evenly matched in talent, Crum outperformed in almost every category.

Crum

Year	Team	Games			Passing								Rushing
		GP	GS	Record	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	TD	Int	Rtg	Att	Yds	Y/A	TD
2023	OTT	18	14	3–11	266	385	69.1	3,109	8.1	10	12	89.0	97	741	7.6	9
CFL Career		18	14	3–11	266	385	69.1	3,109	8.1	10	12	89.0	97	741	7.6	9

Strev.

Year	Team	Games			Passing								Rushing
		GP	GS	Record	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	TD	Int	Rtg	Att	Yds	Y/A	TD
2019	Wpg	17	8	3–5	156	234	66.7	1,564	6.7	8	14	72.0	127	726	5.7	12
CFL Career		35	12	4–8	242	374	64.7	2,698	7.2	19	19	81.8	204	1,167	5.7	22

 

 

[Brandon]

1 minute ago, Fatty Liver said:

For what it's worth, considering the teams they played for were not evenly matched in talent, Crum outperformed in almost every category.

Crum

Year	Team	Games			Passing								Rushing
		GP	GS	Record	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	TD	Int	Rtg	Att	Yds	Y/A	TD
2023	OTT	18	14	3–11	266	385	69.1	3,109	8.1	10	12	89.0	97	741	7.6	9
CFL Career		18	14	3–11	266	385	69.1	3,109	8.1	10	12	89.0	97	741	7.6	9

Strev.

Year	Team	Games			Passing								Rushing
		GP	GS	Record	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	TD	Int	Rtg	Att	Yds	Y/A	TD
2019	Wpg	17	8	3–5	156	234	66.7	1,564	6.7	8	14	72.0	127	726	5.7	12
CFL Career		35	12	4–8	242	374	64.7	2,698	7.2	19	19	81.8	204	1,167	5.7	22

 

 

Outperformed him in almost every category?   

Strev beats him in Wins,  TD/INT ratio,  TDs,   Rushing yards,  Rushing TD's....

Crum beats him in completion % , and yards per pass and rushing y/a ....    

Also how many GC rings does Crum have?   

 

[Fatty Liver]

4 minutes ago, Brandon said:

Outperformed him in almost every category?   

Strev beats him in Wins,  TD/INT ratio,  TDs,   Rushing yards,  Rushing TD's....

Crum beats him in completion % , and yards per pass and rushing y/a ....    

Also how many GC rings does Crum have?   

 

Challenged by statistics are we?

[Arnold_Palmer]

I have to say I thought Kramdi was outstanding. He’s a guy that can literally hold his own covering anyone and is as solid as a tackler as there is. I know he was a “little slow” but he sees the game so well and for his responsibilities on the field I think he holds his own as well as any. 

[Noeller]

5 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

I have to say I thought Kramdi was outstanding. He’s a guy that can literally hold his own covering anyone and is as solid as a tackler as there is. I know he was a “little slow” but he sees the game so well and for his responsibilities on the field I think he holds his own as well as any. 

He's been very good about a season and a half... Last season he got better with each rep and this year continued it IMO.

[Brandon]

33 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Challenged by statistics are we?

Don't lump me in with your confusion on basic math.     

How about posting the NFL stats between the two of them?  

[Goalie]

Someone comparing Streveler the nfl QB to Crum? lol ok. What’s the point. 

[Fatty Liver]

38 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Someone comparing Streveler the nfl QB to Crum? lol ok. What’s the point. 

"Streveler the NFL QB"???  What does that have to do with anything? 

[17to85]

So crums got better numbers than I thought, however that still doesn't mean streveler can't pass... he wasn't ever given the go ahead to pass more than  a few times this season and most of those career numbers are from eons ago.

[Booch]

Strev was grossly misused and not given a chance to be a QB

And the snaps he was given was put in such a stupid scheme...totally predictable and basically 3 different plays...no doubt it would seem he wasn't what he was...and when never given reps..or use of playbook of course it took him a while to look comfortable 

Look at his start and his win...once he started to get more and more reps...he looked better...I feel sorry for the guy but also applaud him as being ultimate team guy and basically sacrificing his health for his brothers

[Brandon]

5 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

"Streveler the NFL QB"???  What does that have to do with anything? 

If Crum was so good then why didn't he get a look in the NFL.    Where are the headlines of Crum lighting it up in NFL pre season?      You are trying to compare Crum saying that he outperformed Strev via stats which you already proved yourself to be wrong with what you posted.   If you are fixated on stats then I bring up where are the stats for Crum in the NFL which is significantly more difficult to play against then in the CFL.    

Strev is significantly better then Crum... Crum should only be compared to the absolute lowest of low QB's in the league.. I'd put him below Dolegala and probably have him only better then Dom Davis at this point.   

[CrazyCanuck89]

On 2024-10-04 at 10:12 PM, Booch said:

BO and oline...ramping up to playoff form

Defence...just getting it done...barely over 20 points a game now

ZC...more cerebral...and seems to have kicked the dumb stuff

A holy pathetic to the TSN telecast...Kate and her God awfulness...and that pathetic head shot on Pokey

Kate is great.

[JohnnyAbonny]

14 minutes ago, CrazyCanuck89 said:

Kate is great.

Honest question, are you trolling? 

I understand it’s subjective, but you’re the first person I’ve ever heard or read having anything close to that opinion.

What could you possibly like about her as the panel host? 

 

 

[voodoochylde]

I like Kate.

She’s a good looking, strong woman with presence that doesn’t get lost in the noise / personalities of the panel. We aren’t getting serious or insightful analysis from anyone most nights so if you want to talk format and tone we can talk about Production but this isn’t some serious or stodgy thing.

I don’t get the Laura Diakun love. She may be fine on SC but in a setting like this, she’s a big “meh” to me - forgettable in every sense and it leaves the segments feeling very stale.

Now if we want to talk personalities who should STILL be at TSN (and hosting the panel) .. Natasha Staniszewski would be my choice. 

 

[HardCoreBlue]

13 minutes ago, voodoochylde said:

I like Kate.

She’s a good looking, strong woman with presence that doesn’t get lost in the noise / personalities of the panel. We aren’t getting serious or insightful analysis from anyone most nights so if you want to talk format and tone we can talk about Production but this isn’t some serious or stodgy thing.

I don’t get the Laura Diakun love. She may be fine on SC but in a setting like this, she’s a big “meh” to me - forgettable in every sense and it leaves the segments feeling very stale.

Now if we want to talk personalities who should STILL be at TSN (and hosting the panel) .. Natasha Staniszewski would be my choice. 

 

Fair. That’s the beauty of life, most everything in life is subjective.

For me I’m not caring about her looks and I’m not looking for nor expecting detailed football analysis from her.

I’m looking for authentic non contrived genuine humorous hosting that she, in my opinion, is achieving the opposite that the other panel members feed off which is a whole other debate in what football people we need on these broadcasts. As for your bewilderment about people liking Laura, it’s quite simple, as Kate is the main host she is the bar we compare other hosts to. Laura can get better like anyone in any profession can but you say stale I say calm focussed authentic with minimal over the top nine year old humour. 
 

[kelownabomberfan]

23 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said:

A contributing factor in the success of the defence is how well the team bleeds the time clock while on offence.

The Bombers can run the hurry up when needed but most of the time they are  purposely draining the clock as much as possible.

It's something that O'Shea takes great pride in and proclaims that the team is the best in the league at it.

Bud Grant said something like "the other team can't score if you have the ball".  So in other words, keep the ball, you should win.

[Noeller]

I respect the opinions expressed here... especially Voodoo... Which has some knowledge behind it. 

I'll say this, with my limited media production background, I believe in having the host be the straight man (or woman) always. Let the "characters" get the laughs... The host should just set them up for success. 

The other thing, and I believe this above all else, you have to just be yourself. If you try being something you're not (funny when you're not a funny person...) it shows and it is painful to watch. I feel this with Milt and Barker a lot when they're going way over the top... It's cringey at times. 

As for Laura vs Kate.... It's a matter of taste. They're both pros and good broadcasters. I personally find Kate to be a little over the top and too big of a personality for the host role, but that's just my personal taste. 

[rebusrankin]

Kate doesn't come across as being herself on the panel. She's over the top, trying to be funny but failing badly, loud and obnoxious. Randorf was excellent because he played the straight man role and was himself.

[wbbfan]

2 hours ago, voodoochylde said:

I like Kate.

She’s a good looking, strong woman with presence that doesn’t get lost in the noise / personalities of the panel. We aren’t getting serious or insightful analysis from anyone most nights so if you want to talk format and tone we can talk about Production but this isn’t some serious or stodgy thing.

I don’t get the Laura Diakun love. She may be fine on SC but in a setting like this, she’s a big “meh” to me - forgettable in every sense and it leaves the segments feeling very stale.

Now if we want to talk personalities who should STILL be at TSN (and hosting the panel) .. Natasha Staniszewski would be my choice. 

 

I mean she doesn’t get lost in the noise of the panel because she is the dominant source of noise on the panel. The game gets lost in her noise, and that’s what people (like my self) hate. Others like milt and Sanchez get pulled into her gravity to the point it’s all very loud with out any thing interesting to say. Which washes out any actual good points and conversation. 
 

Daikun, lets the content be the star of the show. 
 

daikun is like salt and pepper on a steak. Makes it better but you don’t particularly taste or crave the salt n pepper. 
 Kate, is like pouring an entire bottle of cheap ketchup on to a wagyu ribeye. (So is milt, who has less of value to say every year) 

[Goalie]

Yes all this Kate and Laura talk but Milt is the biggest diva and clown on the panel. Adds nothing EVER 

Edited October 6 by Goalie

[Tracker]

31 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I mean she doesn’t get lost in the noise of the panel because she is the dominant source of noise on the panel. The game gets lost in her noise, and that’s what people (like my self) hate. Others like milt and Sanchez get pulled into her gravity to the point it’s all very loud with out any thing interesting to say. Which washes out any actual good points and conversation. 
 

Daikun, lets the content be the star of the show. 
 

daikun is like salt and pepper on a steak. Makes it better but you don’t particularly taste or crave the salt n pepper. 
 Kate, is like pouring an entire bottle of cheap ketchup on to a wagyu ribeye. (So is milt, who has less of value to say every year) 

With all the players and coaches who have come and gone in the CFL in the last 20 years or so (and there have been some real, intelligent, well-spoken characters) you would think that there ought to be a half-dozen or so who ought to be entertaining and knowledgeable enough to be viable alternatives to this lot.

[Noeller]

You know who would be the perfect host but was canned a little while back? Cory Woron. I loved Randorf (my favourite CFL Panel Host ever) and Duthie was okay, except he ALWAYS wanted to turn everything into a "bit"... He was always looking for the next great comedy piece. They finally let him run wild with that in their hockey coverage, and it was..... A lot. 

[CrazyCanuck89]

20 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

Honest question, are you trolling? 

I understand it’s subjective, but you’re the first person I’ve ever heard or read having anything close to that opinion.

What could you possibly like about her as the panel host? 

 

 

Not trolling at all.  She got a great voice, energy and is good looking.  Plus she knows Sports.

Edited October 7 by CrazyCanuck89

[17to85]

52 minutes ago, CrazyCanuck89 said:

Not trolling at all.  She got a great voice, energy and is good looking.  Plus she knows Sports.

You've said this twice... don't be a creep. That has nothing to do with how good someone is at their job.

[Rod Black]

4 hours ago, CrazyCanuck89 said:

Not trolling at all.  She got a great voice, energy and is good looking.  Plus she knows Sports.

I’ve met her. She is stunning. Very fit. Great conversationalist. And as you say, has remarkable sports insight. She has a lot going for herself. And is also good looking. 

Edited October 7 by Rod Black