Bigblue204 Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 1 hour ago, Goalie said: What cold? It’s gonna be like plus 10. Two weeks to go. Any definitive statement about the weather that day means jack ****. Deiter Fan, wpgallday1960, BomberBall. and 1 other 2 2
blue85gold Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 15 minutes ago, Noeller said: Trying to put a different spin on things: Is yesterday's finish the 2024 version of Collaros to Adams in the corner of the endzone? Yes Noeller 1
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 (edited) Our offense was great in that game. Game plan was excellent. Used strength of Montreal D (zone blitz) against them. Collaros had a great game. Lawler needs to make some plays, Wilson was alright, unspectacular. Demski makes some first downs and a big play on a vertical. We don’t have much else at receiver. Bombers consistently brought 6-7 guys inside and burned Als with playaction. They were loaded for run. 2nd half adjustment to just constantly flood half the field tore the Als apart. Only issue was lack of aggression in redzone. Now that might be smart to preserve FG chances, but think you have to give guys chance to make plays. Call some zero read stuff where we basically know where the ball is going coming out of the huddle. Defense was horrible especially vs Fajardo. Only reason they got off the field is if Fajardo missed a throw. A bit more pressure against Alexander who doesn’t move the ball quickly but also burned us on scrambles. They isolated Bonds and our backers and torched them. Bonds really struggled with leverage on Snead, where he wanted/needed to be. They snuck Snead around the field and we could not cover him with anyone, always lose track of him. The only guys on the field who consistently flow to ball on runs/completions are Jones and Holm. Not a fan of Nichols playing deep half/third as much as he did in that game. Basically removed him from the game. Our tackling and recognition are terrible…run a bunch of screens on us we’ll probably give you 20 yards on 2/3 of them. Edited October 27 by JuranBoldenRules WinnipegGordo, johnzo, Noeller and 10 others 7 4 1 1
Booch Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 4 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said: Our offense was great in that game. Game plan was excellent. Used strength of Montreal D (zone blitz) against them. Collaros had a great game. Lawler needs to make some plays, Wilson was alright, unspectacular. Demski makes some first downs and a big play on a vertical. We don’t have much else at receiver. Bombers consistently brought 6-7 guys inside and burned Als with playaction. They were loaded for run. 2nd half adjustment to just constantly flood half the field tore the Als apart. Only issue was lack of aggression in redzone. Now that might be smart to preserve FG chances, but think you have to give guys chance to make plays. Call some zero read stuff where we basically know where the ball is going coming out of the huddle. Defense was horrible especially vs Fajardo. Only reason they got off the field is if Fajardo missed a throw. A bit more pressure against Alexander who doesn’t move the ball quickly but also burned us on scrambles. They isolated Bonds and our backers and torched them. Bonds really struggled with leverage on Snead, where he wanted/needed to be. They snuck Snead around the field and we could not cover him with anyone, always lose track of him. The only guys on the field who consistently flow to ball on runs/completions are Jones and Holm. Not a fan of Nichols playing deep half/third as much as he did in that game. Basically removed him from the game. Our tackling and recognition are terrible…run a bunch of screens on us we’ll probably give you 20 yards on 2/3 of them. Part of our tackling issue is the stupid tendency of instead of putting a guy down and just tackling him at point of contact we try and pull and rip the ball out...as the pile/scrum just keeps advancing. That and we have guys in second level who instead of wrapping up and tackling...are torpedoeing and just diving at lower body trying to knock feet out from under them ...that needs to be coached out of them Luckily we have Cole..Griffin..Jones now...Nichols...who actually tackle...and where we miss Jamal Parker who was probably our best pure tackler on the team...and luckily saved our bacon taking Rhymes out a few yrs back when Kramdi and Holm whiffed Piggy 1, HardCoreBlue and K-Shack 3
BBlink Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 3 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said: Our offense was great in that game. Game plan was excellent. Used strength of Montreal D (zone blitz) against them. Collaros had a great game. Lawler needs to make some plays, Wilson was alright, unspectacular. Demski makes some first downs and a big play on a vertical. We don’t have much else at receiver. Bombers consistently brought 6-7 guys inside and burned Als with playaction. They were loaded for run. 2nd half adjustment to just constantly flood half the field tore the Als apart. Only issue was lack of aggression in redzone. Now that might be smart to preserve FG chances, but think you have to give guys chance to make plays. Call some zero read stuff where we basically know where the ball is going coming out of the huddle. Defense was horrible especially vs Fajardo. Only reason they got off the field is if Fajardo missed a throw. A bit more pressure against Alexander who doesn’t move the ball quickly but also burned us on scrambles. They isolated Bonds and our backers and torched them. Bonds really struggled with leverage on Snead, where he wanted/needed to be. They snuck Snead around the field and we could not cover him with anyone, always lose track of him. The only guys on the field who consistently flow to ball on runs/completions are Jones and Holm. Not a fan of Nichols playing deep half/third as much as he did in that game. Basically removed him from the game. Our tackling and recognition are terrible…run a bunch of screens on us we’ll probably give you 20 yards on 2/3 of them. Agree with our red zone aggression. Seemed like we got into the red zone and immediately ran Brady into the pile. Waste of a down. ddanger, Tracker, rebusrankin and 1 other 2 2
SpeedFlex27 Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 4 hours ago, White Out said: Man, I thought I was a buzz kill Someone should tell Noeller to enjoy the win & quit overthinking everything. It's no wonder he goes to pieces in big games for the Bombers. rebusrankin 1
17to85 Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Someone should tell Noeller to enjoy the win & quit overthinking everything. It's no wonder he goes to pieces in big games for the Bombers. He gets told plenty, he just doesn't listen to it. Super Duper Negatron, rebusrankin, bb1 and 4 others 1 6
Rod Black Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 22 minutes ago, Booch said: Part of our tackling issue is the stupid tendency of instead of putting a guy down and just tackling him at point of contact we try and pull and rip the ball out...as the pile/scrum just keeps advancing. That and we have guys in second level who instead of wrapping up and tackling...are torpedoeing and just diving at lower body trying to knock feet out from under them ...that needs to be coached out of them Serious question. Isn’t the tendency of trying to rip the ball out rampant among all teams? Additionally, the torpedoing and “block” to stop the ball carrier, seem to be the rule rather than the exception. When did these trends become the way to play defence? What is the advantage to playing these trends, reduces injuries? Noeller 1
JohnnyAbonny Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 3 hours ago, Noeller said: As of right now it's Sunny +7 that day.... No way man, it starts at 5:30. The sun will be long down, it’ll be cold as ****. Perfect Bomber weather. JCon and bearpants 1 1
rebusrankin Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 1 hour ago, Noeller said: Trying to put a different spin on things: Is yesterday's finish the 2024 version of Collaros to Adams in the corner of the endzone? I hope so.
Booch Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 19 minutes ago, Rod Black said: Serious question. Isn’t the tendency of trying to rip the ball out rampant among all teams? Additionally, the torpedoing and “block” to stop the ball carrier, seem to be the rule rather than the exception. When did these trends become the way to play defence? What is the advantage to playing these trends, reduces injuries? We seem to be more apt to doing the Rip and tear...I never liked that mindset The lack of practices...padded...and disregard of technique is reason for the piss poor tackling...even tho they pros...u still need the reps
Jpan85 Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 40 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Someone should tell Noeller to enjoy the win & quit overthinking everything. It's no wonder he goes to pieces in big games for the Bombers. Bombers play better when Noeller is in full panic mode Super Duper Negatron, HardCoreBlue, Booch and 6 others 1 6 2
Fatty Liver Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 2 hours ago, GCn20 said: Both Montreal and Toronto have very good teams and depth. True, the Bombers are still dominant in the West but have fallen behind both the Als and the Argos in talent along both trenches. If these 2 teams were in their division they'd play them more often and recognize the problem clearly after multiple beatings, but as it is they play them once or twice a year and are always surprised when they're unable to dominate the line play, which usually happens in the Grey Cup. Best kept secret, the Als are holding Mustafa Johnson in reserve for the playoffs, he's likely to rip a QB's heart from his chest and eat it at center field! Noeller 1
TBURGESS Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 1 hour ago, GCn20 said: If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. You could literally take every football game decided by one score ever played and what if each team to a 10 point victory on 2-3 plays. Every what if you trot out a Bomber fan can do the same and argue we should have been up by 4-7 points. No, it's if the Als simply made the correct decision on either of 2 plays, they win. That's not the same as if we'd caught that ball or took advantage in the red zone or if they hadn't called that penalty.
Noeller Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 15 minutes ago, Jpan85 said: Bombers play better when Noeller is in full panic mode You should see my poor wife trying to figure out how to get home for the game.... bb1 and Piggy 1 2
Piggy 1 Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 2 hours ago, Booch said: Part of our tackling issue is the stupid tendency of instead of putting a guy down and just tackling him at point of contact we try and pull and rip the ball out...as the pile/scrum just keeps advancing. That and we have guys in second level who instead of wrapping up and tackling...are torpedoeing and just diving at lower body trying to knock feet out from under them ...that needs to be coached out of them Luckily we have Cole..Griffin..Jones now...Nichols...who actually tackle...and where we miss Jamal Parker who was probably our best pure tackler on the team...and luckily saved our bacon taking Rhymes out a few yrs back when Kramdi and Holm whiffed Whats the deal with Parker ,anyways?
GCn20 Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, TBURGESS said: No, it's if the Als simply made the correct decision on either of 2 plays, they win. That's not the same as if we'd caught that ball or took advantage in the red zone or if they hadn't called that penalty. Yes it is the same thing. We had 2-3 plays in the game yesterday where if players make the right read/decision they are punting instead of scoring. You are just purposely CHOOSING to ignore the first 57 minutes of a 60 minute game because it doesn't suit your argument. Part of every loss EVER is the opposition making mistakes at wrong time. You keep putting up the 61 yard FG as one such mistake when every KR ever is coached to field a short FG because they often take extremely unpredictable bounces and are a live ball. Edited October 27 by GCn20 Bigblue204 and Noeller 2
Booch Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 1 hour ago, Piggy 1 said: Whats the deal with Parker ,anyways? Yeah not sure what he hurt...like Lawson...both seem fine...but are apparently injured...neither were ever seen in any cast...boot...sling...nothing Piggy 1 and Noeller 1 1
17to85 Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 I wonder how different the game might have gone if they hadn't gone full brain dead and given Ford his legit int on the first play... Piggy 1, Noeller, GCJenks and 6 others 5 4
Bigblue204 Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 4 minutes ago, 17to85 said: I wonder how different the game might have gone if they hadn't gone full brain dead and given Ford his legit int on the first play... Earlier this year....may have been game 1 vs MTL actually. Command centre overturned a play because the Bombers had an illegal formation or something. No one on the field noticed it. And the play wasn't a turn over or a scoring play. They just called down and made the refs call a penalty. That int should have immediately been reviewed. Deiter Fan and JohnnyAbonny 2
Piggy 1 Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 1 hour ago, Booch said: Yeah not sure what he hurt...like Lawson...both seem fine...but are apparently injured...neither were ever seen in any cast...boot...sling...nothing Crazy ,we could sure use both.
Booch Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 20 minutes ago, Piggy 1 said: Crazy ,we could sure use both. Yup...alot of people don't realize how good Parker is JohnnyAbonny and Piggy 1 2
Zach Schnitzer Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 8 hours ago, Booch said: Was typical cold weather fall..playoff football...yet we failed to.play that on offence with our bread and butter...and a lineup geared to ground and pound against 2nd worst run defence...I ask...why?? Seemed Montreal was loading the box but I’d have to watch again
Booch Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 1 minute ago, Zach Schnitzer said: Seemed Montreal was loading the box but I’d have to watch again strength vs attempts to stop.....impose your will Super Duper Negatron 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 3 hours ago, Booch said: Yeah not sure what he hurt...like Lawson...both seem fine...but are apparently injured...neither were ever seen in any cast...boot...sling...nothing Healthy scratches.
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