GREY CUP Thread

[Nolby]

6 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

He’ll be a okay, he’ll be okay, he’ll be okay said in the fetal position rocking back and forth. Add in thumb in mouth for good measure.

I cant see him not playing, he came back into the game vs the Riders. Staff will likely have him hopped up on goofball.

[HardCoreBlue]

3 minutes ago, Nolby said:

I cant see him not playing, he came back into the game vs the Riders. Staff will likely have him hopped up on goofball.

Goofball? Magic medicine? Tell me more. 

[rebusrankin]

Nye picked against us last week. I consider this a great sign.

[Booch]

They spatted him up and he was back in like 2..3 plays after he was hurt..he will be fine

[Nolby]

Random shower thought question; how do you think Winnipeg is game planning vs Toronto?

Im praying they'll be giving Zach immense protection, as I assume Toronto will be loading up that Dline all game.

Im hoping Younger and Hall are going to try and get to Arbuckle often with many blitzes, rattle him early, knock him out of sync.

[bluto]

I have Demski figured as a key to your plan this Sunday. I expect to see a lot of him of short routes and for him to generally be a pest that extends drives.

[GCn20]

10 hours ago, Nolby said:

Random shower thought question; how do you think Winnipeg is game planning vs Toronto?

Im praying they'll be giving Zach immense protection, as I assume Toronto will be loading up that Dline all game.

Im hoping Younger and Hall are going to try and get to Arbuckle often with many blitzes, rattle him early, knock him out of sync.

I think Younger/Hall will have a master class of a game plan that will involve a ton of different pressures and coverages.

1 minute ago, bluto said:

I have Demski figured as a key to your plan this Sunday. I expect to see a lot of him of short routes and for him to generally be a pest that extends drives.

Demski and Oliveira will be factoring in greatly. Your one and only shot in this game is the play of your DL against our OL. Buck will be looking to mitigate that advantage with Demski/Oliveira forcing your ends out of pass rush. Once we have accomplished that, it will be a long day for your defence. This ain't the same Bombers offence you've faced this year, the boys are rolling right now.

[bluto]

10 hours ago, Nolby said:

Random shower thought question; how do you think Winnipeg is game planning vs Toronto?

Im praying they'll be giving Zach immense protection, as I assume Toronto will be loading up that Dline all game.

Im hoping Younger and Hall are going to try and get to Arbuckle often with many blitzes, rattle him early, knock him out of sync.

I know what I would do if I were either of the Coordinators for either team as it seems plainly obvious to me from each perspective... but as I don't get a vote and I'm not sure that anybody gives a toss to hear it, I'll keep my own counsel on it.

12 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

I think Younger/Hall will have a master class of a game plan that will involve a ton of different pressures and coverages.

Demski and Oliveira will be factoring in greatly. Your one and only shot in this game is the play of your DL against our OL. Buck will be looking to mitigate that advantage with Demski/Oliveira forcing your ends out of pass rush. Once we have accomplished that, it will be a long day for your defence. This ain't the same Bombers offence you've faced this year, the boys are rolling right now.

I don't think it's our only chance, but without Kelly, our margin for error is very small.

[17to85]

Just now, bluto said:

I don't think it's our only chance, but without Kelly, our margin for error is very small

You over rated your sex pest qb. Doesn't matter who is at qb for the argos. The matchup that has swung thing for the argos all season is DL vs. OL. That's the only thing that matters here. 

[Booch]

Gonna see Younger do a lil twist on our pressures.....to confuse Arbuckle right out of the gate with who/where we use our guys dropped off. I expect some pressure packages

Offensively again we need to control the L.O.S and I think with now that we have shown that we will go intermediate and deep pass even with the extra Olineman and FB in and not necessarily use the run, those extra half second...second of time for T.O to process is gonna allow ZC to do some secondary disection 

[Bigblue204]

10 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

You over rated your sex pest qb. Doesn't matter who is at qb for the argos. The matchup that has swung thing for the argos all season is DL vs. OL vs Refs vs poor field goal kicking. That's the only thing that matters here. 

 

[JCon]

10 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

You over rated your sex pest qb. Doesn't matter who is at qb for the argos. The matchup that has swung thing for the argos all season is DL vs. OL. That's the only thing that matters here. 

The league is lucky that Chud is not in the game or they would have to spend the entire week explaining why he's still in the league. Of course, they should be asking why Pinball and Murphy are allowed to collect a paycheque but there are no real reporters in Vancouver. 

[bryan35]

11 hours ago, Nolby said:

Random shower thought question; how do you think Winnipeg is game planning vs Toronto?

Im praying they'll be giving Zach immense protection, as I assume Toronto will be loading up that Dline all game.

Im hoping Younger and Hall are going to try and get to Arbuckle often with many blitzes, rattle him early, knock him out of sync.

Not expecting too many blitzes. Didn't blitz much against Harris and he was more of a threat to pick a D apart when not pressured. 

I would prefer to see pressure but that doesn't seem to be Younger's MO. We do have a strong secondary....JY and Hall know what they're doing.

[bluto]

2 minutes ago, bryan35 said:

Not expecting too many blitzes. Didn't blitz much against Harris and he was more of a threat to pick a D apart when not pressured. 

I would prefer to see pressure but that doesn't seem to be Younger's MO. We do have a strong secondary....JY and Hall know what they're doing.

Beg to differ.

I don't read Winnipeg as a blitzing defence really, but if you're up against a backup in the big game it would basically be dereliction of duty for Younger not to go after him early and often.

[Bigblue204]

13 minutes ago, bluto said:

Beg to differ.

I don't read Winnipeg as a blitzing defence really, but if you're up against a backup in the big game it would basically be dereliction of duty for Younger not to go after him early and often.

I disagree. This defences strength is blanketing the field with DBs and keeping the QB in the pocket. Let Arbuckle sit back there and try to find the opening. Send the occasional blitz to change it up from time to time. But don't fix what's not broken.

[bryan35]

11 minutes ago, bluto said:

Beg to differ.

I don't read Winnipeg as a blitzing defence really, but if you're up against a backup in the big game it would basically be dereliction of duty for Younger not to go after him early and often.

Arbuckle isn't a rookie so not expecting the Bombers to go after him too much. Conventional thinking is go after him. Guess we will find out.

[bearpants]

37 minutes ago, bryan35 said:

Arbuckle isn't a rookie so not expecting the Bombers to go after him too much. Conventional thinking is go after him. Guess we will find out.

my guess is they don't overthink this and change up the game plan too much... generally they've been going with minimal pressure and making the QB sit in the pocket and find blanketed receivers... 

 

14 hours ago, Noeller said:

Kind of interesting that there's a curfew this year for the first time... Curious if something happened in the past couple years...

 

 

I'm a little surprised there hasn't been curfews in the past.... you may be right about some guys - let's call it - "losing focus" the past couple years 

[Pete]

Offensively I hope they utilize Clercius as TE , and outlet for Zac.

He  could have a big game. Argos will have a lb tracking Brady even if hes blocking.

Defensively where we could have gone 9 dbs we likely keep Jones or wilson keying on Carey. Argos will likely deploy Mcmahon and Carey together on numerous sets.

Edited 10 hours ago by Pete

[HardCoreBlue]

1 hour ago, JCon said:

The league is lucky that Chud is not in the game or they would have to spend the entire week explaining why he's still in the league. Of course, they should be asking why Pinball and Murphy are allowed to collect a paycheque but there are no real reporters in Vancouver. 

Ahh it's The Chud to you dear sir.

I'm sure his corrupt behaviour in a work environment is rationalized and explained away using whataboutism to deflect, distract, convolute, minimize the actual issue with garbleguk using big words strung together followed up with a passive aggressive tone to suggest those that disagree with this 'perspective' are closeminded all living in a nicely decorated Blue Bomber echo chamber.

But hey they must know what they're talking about on the issue of workplace misconduct cuz they know other stuff about other issues, like football for example.

Go Bombers.

[JCon]

2 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Ahh it's The Chud to you dear sir.

I'm sure his corrupt behaviour in a work environment is rationalized and explained away using whataboutism to deflect, distract, convolute, minimize the actual issue with garbleguk using big words strung together followed up with a passive aggressive tone to suggest those that disagree with this 'perspective' are closeminded all living in a nicely decorated Blue Bomber echo chamber.

But hey they must know what they're talking about on the issue of workplace misconduct cuz they know other stuff about other issues, like football for example.

Go Bombers.

They'll fight you in the stands if you disagree. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

Two things I would be loading up for this game…

On O, run a lot of zone read and have Collaros pull the ball.  There’s no tomorrow and nobody expects him to run.  Extend it to RPO too with some verticals on the backside he can hit if he has time to set his feet.  There’s a couple big plays in that and if you hit them the Argos D will have to adjust and slow down their pass rush.

On D, zone blitzes, specifically that dog look where Jefferson/Garbutt drop into the area Kramdi, Cole or Grffin vacate when they blitz.  Arbuckle is going to be running a pretty simple vertical/between the hashes game in terms of downfield passes.  Bait him into mistakes or to hold the ball.

[HardCoreBlue]

2 minutes ago, JCon said:

They'll fight you in the stands if you disagree. 

Or they'll play the victim and clutch their pearls.

1 minute ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Two things I would be loading up for this game…

On O, run a lot of zone read and have Collaros pull the ball.  There’s no tomorrow and nobody expects him to run.  Extend it to RPO too with some verticals on the backside he can hit if he has time to set his feet.  There’s a couple big plays in that and if you hit them the Argos D will have to adjust and slow down their pass rush.

On D, zone blitzes, specifically that dog look where Jefferson/Garbutt drop into the area Kramdi, Cole or Grffin vacate when they blitz.  Arbuckle is going to be running a pretty simple vertical/between the hashes game in terms of downfield passes.  Bait him into mistakes or to hold the ball.

Golf clap.

[Bigblue204]

The Argos secondary is as suspect as the riders imo. How many yards did they give up in the semi? over 400 i think. As long as Collaros gets time the offense should be just fine.

[Arnold_Palmer]

I’m curious to see how our O-line does against Torontos D-line. They got absolutely manhandled last time we played Toronto. However Winnipegs line play has gotten progressively better every week and in my opinion had their best game all season against the Riders. Zach wasn’t touched all game. 

[Brandon]

1 hour ago, bryan35 said:

Arbuckle isn't a rookie so not expecting the Bombers to go after him too much. Conventional thinking is go after him. Guess we will find out.

I'd assume they do whatever they did before earler in the season when played against him and he had only 88 yards passing.