111th Grey Cup- Argos vs Bombers GDT

[Captain Blue]

Major trying to get the flags to look more equal 

[bustamente]

Not going to blame the refs but rather the rule you can't reward a team on a blocked punt end of story, penalize sure but you can't give them the ball

[3rdand1.5]

Congrats to T.O

Dinwiddie IS a great coach he has showed as much....his guys were more prepared today

 

 

[JuranBoldenRules]

Just now, Mike said:

Everyone wanted to bury their head in the sand and for two years in a row, our biggest flaws were exposed in our most important game of the year 

I know nobody wants to hear it, but if we want to actually win the Grey Cup again sometime this decade, you need to fire O’Shea

This is insane.

MOS isn't Dave Ritchie or Doug Berry.

Top down they need to have some strong conversations on the personnel side about who is a player to help you win games and who no longer is.  Bighill, Demski, Neufeld, Jefferson, Wilson, Thomas, Bryant should be somewhat obvious.  If 4 of those guys are back next year we're doing it wrong.

I think our personnel department is really struggling.  As much as we're upset with our edge rush right now, I didn't see anyone in preseason who looked like a player.  Receivers, pile of junk.  Returners, pile of junk.

We have a top heavy roster and we haven't balanced it out with great finds in a couple years.

[White Out]

I don't like all these declarative statements about its the coaching, its the players. Our defense would have been more than good enough to win this game if our ******* terrible, choke artist "quarterback" didn't throw 3 interceptions, and threw for 114 yards half way through the 4th quarter.

I mean, how ******** do some people have to be to look at this game and not say, very specifically, this is on coaching and Zach. 

[Mike]

Just now, Noeller said:

This is not even a little bit on coaching... C'mon. 

As long as you’ve decided 

[bluto]

Just now, Noeller said:

This is not even a little bit on coaching... C'mon. 

We'll have lots of time to discuss this in the months ahead, respectfully, Cory I beg to differ, hard.

[wbbfan]

Just now, Goalie said:

So last week our coaching won us the game and this week they lost it? **** off Kamala. 

Nope. Nice straw man, false equivalency and ad hominem though. 

[Super Duper Negatron]

Just now, CodyT said:

I'm with you on this. Osh doesn't control Whitehead fumbling while not even getting hit 

He doesn't control wheatfall dropping a touchdown. 

I blame osh for not challenging obvious holding calls

Wonder how this game turns out with brown under centre

Who keeps putting Whitehead back there all year despite contributing nothing?

Who ignores their MOP running back in scoring range instead of throwing to a receiver that played half a season?

Coaches that's who.

[BBlink]

Playcalling was fine when you consider how many players were stacked in the box on any given play. I've seen enough underthrown passes being intercepted in Grey Cups and overall bad QB play to put this on Zach. He's about cemented his legacy of winning 2 Grey cups despite his play.

[Booch]

1 minute ago, Noeller said:

LMAO at "it's Osh's fault"... Get ******. The players didn't execute. The receivers especially... Absolutely terrible. This is not on Osh and I'm not even sure it's on Buck. 

3 yrs running...outschemed...out matched roster wise...out coached...guys didn't execute some stuff...but the coaches didn't put them in position to succeeed...or adjust...you obviously never played but coaching killed us...when we win it's a collective effort of being prepared and coached up to succeed...3 yrs straight...we didn't get that...some yrs it was roster..and we had a poor pr all yr and with injuries going into this...had no guys worth spit to put in...Samson...didn't see field while our great Thomas got his ass handed to him all game..that's just one example

[White Out]

Just now, 3rdand1.5 said:

Congrats to T.O

Dinwiddie IS a great coach he has showed as much....his guys were more prepared today

 

 

**** Dinwiddie. He threw the 2007 Grey Cup away with horrible play, then, comes back and outcoaches us and beats us again in the Cup.

[wbbfan]

Just now, bluto said:

We'll have lots of time to discuss this in the months ahead, respectfully, Cory I beg to differ, hard.

Congrats on the win bud. 

[White Out]

Just now, Mike said:

As long as you’ve decided 

Careful he doesn't call for your psot to be deleted and get a warning lol

[bustamente]

Somebody will take the fall for tonight it wont be O'Shea.

[Booch]

5 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Execution is coaching. 

Exactly point I was trying to say

[Yourface]

Collaros, the receivers and Lucky are the biggest reasons for this loss 

[CodyT]

Just now, Super Duper Negatron said:

Who keeps putting Whitehead back there all year despite contributing nothing?

Who ignores their MOP running back in scoring range instead of throwing to a receiver that played half a season?

Coaches that's who.

I guess you could fault him for not telling Buck to run the ball more.

Whitehead stinks all the way up the chain of command

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 minute ago, bustamente said:

Not going to blame the refs but rather the rule you can't reward a team on a blocked punt end of story, penalize sure but you can't give them the ball

If you applied the rules that way on every play every single ref with his/her eyes open would throw a flag.

It's a mistake and I'm sure when he watches it Ben Major would agree.

[Doublezero]

Bombers have the best fans in the CFL and Bombers should apologize to them.

[Booch]

4 minutes ago, Goalie said:

No it’s not. It’s on the guys on the field. Play a sport. Blaming your coach always?  blaming everyone but the ppl who actually play. 

I have...at this level...it's 100 percent...it is in the wins...and losses...

[wbbfan]

Just now, BBlink said:

Playcalling was fine when you consider how many players were stacked in the box on any given play. I've seen enough underthrown passes being intercepted in Grey Cups and overall bad QB play to put this on Zach. He's about cemented his legacy of winning 2 Grey cups despite his play.

We were averaging 10 yards per carry before the blow out. It’s not stacked box. We didn’t play action. We didn’t struggle to run at all. We just didn’t run.  

[Mike]

Just now, JuranBoldenRules said:

This is insane.

MOS isn't Dave Ritchie or Doug Berry.

Top down they need to have some strong conversations on the personnel side about who is a player to help you win games and who no longer is.  Bighill, Demski, Neufeld, Jefferson, Wilson, Thomas, Bryant should be somewhat obvious.  If 4 of those guys are back next year we're doing it wrong.

I think our personnel department is really struggling.  As much as we're upset with our edge rush right now, I didn't see anyone in preseason who looked like a player.  Receivers, pile of junk.  Returners, pile of junk.

We have a top heavy roster and we haven't balanced it out with great finds in a couple years.

Why is it insane? The two issues aren’t mutually exclusive. If we had lost three in a row without winning the two previous, this wouldn’t even be a discussion and let’s be honest, O’Shea 2022-2024 isn’t even remotely the same coach that he was prior. 

[Captain Blue]

No way you fire Osh. Don't think today was on him and he is one of the main reasons we have been here five straight times. 

[Bigblue204]

2 minutes ago, Goalie said:

So last week our coaching won us the game and this week they lost it? **** off Kamala. 

Yes that's how real life works. Things change from one point in time to another. Sometimes patterns appear. I'll guarentee when Brady is the focus on Offense....they win far more than they lose. 

But Buck...much like when he was playing...throwing it deep means more than doing what works.