111th Grey Cup- Argos vs Bombers GDT

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

44 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:

Friendly reminder this marked the 10th consecutive Grey Cup the 'Riders have not played in!

FFS... this actually made me feel better- you are a prince among men. 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by Wanna-B-Fanboy

[brett_c_b]

8 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Lapo has succeeded as a play caller when he's had a head coach prodding him to be aggressive.  He's 1000% not the guy you want deciding to go for it or not, but he can design and call the plays just fine.  

Wouldn't say he has a "system."  Obviously everyone has tendencies but as someone designing an offense he is one of the best at matching scheme to talent he has.  

All time bad head coach though.

I personally didn't like him as a coordinator either. Am I necessarily correct that he's bad at it, not at all. Just saying if he were to come back as a coach I'm about as happy as booch is when Jake Thomas is in the starting lineup

[JuranBoldenRules]

2 minutes ago, brett_c_b said:

I personally didn't like him as a coordinator either. Am I necessarily correct that he's bad at it, not at all. Just saying if he were to come back as a coach I'm about as happy as booch is when Jake Thomas is in the starting lineup

I think he's actually the right kind of guy to check Collaros a bit.

Worst thing about our O in this era is the complete lack of willingness to run a quicker tempo and more of a ball control style offense when it is dictated by the opponent.

Buck is kind of a "**** yeah, attack it" kind of mentality.  But we don't have the D to support that by turning the ball over and haven't for at least 2 seasons.

Edited 20 hours ago by JuranBoldenRules

[WinnipegGordo]

19 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:

Friendly reminder this marked the 10th consecutive Grey Cup the 'Riders have not played in!

Sure, but the Bombers have now lost 8 of the last 10 Grey Cups they have played in. 

Lots of failure with the Bombers as well.

[Booch]

3 minutes ago, brett_c_b said:

I personally didn't like him as a coordinator either. Am I necessarily correct that he's bad at it, not at all. Just saying if he were to come back as a coach I'm about as happy as booch is when Jake Thomas is in the starting lineup

Lapo did oc us to a cup...

[17to85]

3 minutes ago, Booch said:

Lapo did oc us to a cup...

Praise be unto the defence in 2019 for that... 

[Booch]

4 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Praise be unto the defence in 2019 for that... 

Offence tho still did damage...run was working and Lapo was smart enough to use it...Strev was used good too...running...and in pass game...buck looked like he was throwing darts at a wall hoping something would stick

[Deiter Fan]

5 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

Sure, but the Bombers have now lost 8 of the last 10 Grey Cups they have played in. 

Lots of failure with the Bombers as well.

I'm not so dense as to not recognize the ultimate goal is to win the Cup...but...I can't can't consider a season where the fans get to see more wins than losses, get to experience a quality product, have a great time and the team wins their division and makes good money...as a failure even if they don't win the ultimate game.

 

[SpeedFlex27]

2 minutes ago, Booch said:

Offence tho still did damage...run was working and Lapo was smart enough to use it...Strev was used good too...running...and in pass game...buck looked like he was throwing darts at a wall hoping something would stick

I called our offense scatter gun today which I think is an apt description. Our plays were all over the place. It sems like we had no game plan. I'm thinking that Buck just called plays with really no rhyme or reason.

[Deiter Fan]

15 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

I think he's actually the right kind of guy to check Collaros a bit.

Worst thing about our O in this era is the complete lack of willingness to run a quicker tempo and more of a ball control style offense when it is dictated by the opponent.

Yep...we sure could have used a bit more dink and dunk today...although the few times we tried it it didn't work out so well. Bad throws...bad hands...well covered

[deepsixemtoboyd]

42 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:

Threw Wilson (QB) to the wolves when Zach got hurt. If we had taken care of business down the stretch in the regular season, he could have seen some more action. Dude looked terrible when he was in and should have thrown an INT that was dropped

This is 100% true. And it is one of MOS’ most in enduring, abject failures as a coach. His absolutely incredibly idiotic, stubborn insistence to keep his starters in when we’re up 20 points. Losing absolutely critical reps for the guy behind him. then it absolutely bites you in the ass in the most critical game of the year when your starter gets hurt like tonight, or just doesn’t have his game.

So ******* stupid.

Edited 20 hours ago by deepsixemtoboyd

[CodyT]

1 minute ago, Deiter Fan said:

I'm not so dense as to not recognize the ultimate goal is to win the Cup...but...I can't can't consider a season where the fans get to see more wins than losses, get to experience a quality product, have a great time and the team wins their division and makes good money...as a failure even if they don't win the ultimate game.

 

You could have sold me on that last year. 3 in a row and the run as the great Jim Kelly run of the north

It's sad to such an awful embarrassing display of football today. 

This team has been inconsistent all year. When the odds makers set the spread I was thinking they were on Crack. This had bust written all over it.

[17to85]

If the receivers make the catches that are there to be made are we complaining that loudly about the game plan? Ol held up well enough, before he sliced his finger open collaros was giving guys the opportunity to make plays...

[JohnnyAbonny]

1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I called our offense scatter gun today which I think is an apt description. Our plays were all over the place. It sems like we had no game plan. I'm thinking that Buck just called plays with really no rhyme or reason.

The play calling (or decisions by Zach, or both) was like me when I’m losing at Madden. Just “**** it, run 4 verts again” 

[SpeedFlex27]

So, does Buck go to BC this week?

[Deiter Fan]

1 minute ago, CodyT said:

You could have sold me on that last year. 3 in a row and the run as the great Jim Kelly run of the north

It's sad to such an awful embarrassing display of football today. 

This team has been inconsistent all year. When the odds makers set the spread I was thinking they were on Crack. This had bust written all over it.

Yeah this year was the turd in the punchbowl, for sure. We certainly got lucky that many other teams were dealing with their own punchbowl problems. They still fought and came out on top but were, unfortunately, exposed in their final games against the East. Can only hope this will be the ultimate wake-up call for the org.

[SpeedFlex27]

I see this team falling off a cliff if we just keep bringing back the coach's favourite old vets even if they can't play anymore. We could be 4-14 in a couple of seasons.

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

31 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

Sure, but the Bombers have now lost 8 of the last 10 Grey Cups they have played in. 

Lots of failure with the Bombers as well.

Ok killjoy- doors over there.

[Deiter Fan]

5 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I see this team falling off a cliff if we just keep bringing back the coach's favourite old vets even if they can't play anymore. We could be 4-14 in a couple of seasons.

Given some of the off season decisions that have been made re: who we've kept and who we've allowed to get away...and some real head scratching in season coaching decisions...that is not out of the realm of possibility and just whistling past the graveyard won't make those issues disappear.

[JohnnyAbonny]

Toronto built their team in the image of the 2019/21 Bombers. 
We had that and rebuilt it into the 2019/21 Tiger-Cats. 

[17to85]

We spent a **** ton of money on offense and they were wildly inconsistent all season long. Defense was fine, there's some tweaks to see on STs but it's the offense that needs to be better for what they earning. 

[JohnnyAbonny]

37 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

I think he's actually the right kind of guy to check Collaros a bit.

Worst thing about our O in this era is the complete lack of willingness to run a quicker tempo and more of a ball control style offense when it is dictated by the opponent.

Buck is kind of a "**** yeah, attack it" kind of mentality.  But we don't have the D to support that by turning the ball over and haven't for at least 2 seasons.

Outside of Lawler, we didn’t have the personnel for that either. 

[Doublezero]

Not that it's worth anything at this stage but I noticed Lucky wore yellow-coloured gloves for the first half then changed them for blue gloves to start the second. First kick return he fields with the blue gloves, he fights the ball and fumbles. Later, for the rest of the game, goes back to the yellow gloves. I imagine next year it will just be gardening gloves.

[SpeedFlex27]

1 minute ago, Doublezero said:

Not that it's worth anything at this stage but I noticed Lucky wore yellow-coloured gloves for the first half then changed them for blue gloves to start the second. First kick return he fields with the blue gloves, he fights the ball and fumbles. Later, for the rest of the game, goes back to the yellow gloves. I imagine next year it will just be gardening gloves.

The way they played, I'm surprised they didn't wear garbage mitts.

[White Out]

1 hour ago, WinnipegGordo said:

Sure, but the Bombers have now lost 8 of the last 10 Grey Cups they have played in. 

Lots of failure with the Bombers as well.

Well. Now I can go to bed and sob myself to sleep

Thanks.