3 turds plus crappy honker. Long winter edition.

[wbbfan]

1 zach. Terrible before and after the finger. 

2 Buck inexcusable play call and game plan 

3 the WRs. Lawler, Demski, lucky especially. 

crappy honker mos for poor execution and getting badly out coached 3 straight gcs 

honorable mentions to Willy, brady, garbutt, bonds, nichols, ford and the ol.  

[Noeller]

This is entirely on the receivers, IMO... They let every other unit down. 

[Goalie]

1. Zach and Buck. I don’t know which were called plays and which were Zach doing Zach things. Not using Brady is stupidity tho 

2. Lucky whitehead. He cost us. 

3. Eli. His penalty b4 the ball was snapped was just bad omen. 
 

 

Edited November 18 by Goalie

[White Out]

1) Zach was his usual chokejob self. That was the worst ******* performance by a QB in a championship I've ever seen. And any hip contrarian out there who says otherwise is just wrong.
2)Dropped balls, didn't get open, didn't block for anyone when the ball did get caught
3)Buck Pierce. That was the dumbest offense I've ever seen called

 

4 minutes ago, Noeller said:

This is entirely on the receivers, IMO... They let every other unit down. 

This has to be a hot take contrarian post to gin up an argument. No one is this clueless. Bravo sir

[BBlink]

1 minute ago, Noeller said:

This is entirely on the receivers, IMO... They let every other unit down. 

I think it's a combo of Zach and the Receivers. Surprisingly the offensive line did their job and Brady was Brady but Toronto schemed well for him. His one big play was all Brady.

Demski was absolute dogshit. That leaves us with Lawler and Pokey as the only two that had any impact. But like was said in the other thread... Some plays were there and Zach under throwing receivers again.

Defense had a lot to be desired... They aren't schemed to win games. Just not lose them.

Overall, embarassing display. Right now, not looking forward to next year. Even if they get to the Cup I have zero faith.

[wbbfan]

7 minutes ago, Noeller said:

This is entirely on the receivers, IMO... They let every other unit down. 

I never thought the ol would out play the WRs qb and Argos dl and we’d lose. 
I definitely do not feel married to any of the WRs. 

[OldSchoolBlue]

Buck has to go. That was the worst play calling in a grey cup I've ever seen.

[HardCoreBlue]

16 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

1 zach. Terrible before and after the finger. 

2 Buck inexcusable play call and game plan 

3 the WRs. Lawler, Demski, lucky especially. 

crappy honker mos for poor execution and getting badly out coached 3 straight gcs 

honorable mentions to Willy, brady, garbutt, bonds, nichols, ford and the ol.  

Wilson has an arm is pleasant surprise.

[Goalie]

2 minutes ago, OldSchoolBlue said:

Buck has to go. That was the worst play calling in a grey cup I've ever seen.

I’d fire buck. Not just cuz of this game tho. I’d fire him because outside of Brady, the o was **** all year except against edmonton. 

[wbbfan]

2 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Wilson has an arm is pleasant surprise.

Yeah. Tons of talent. Love the poise and mental toughness. Maybe more balls than brains but in a dunigan way. Should be fun to watch him develop. 

[Dr Zaius]

Can we please ******* move on from Collaros now?

2 years overdue 

Edited November 18 by Dr Zaius

[Mike]

That deep ball right off the bat with Zach testing out the glove hand has to go down as one of the dumbest ******* things I’ve ever seen.

And if that’s not coaching, I don’t know what it is. That should be so quickly addressed on the sideline before they take the field. Hey man, you’ve never worn that thing before, let’s feel it out before we sling it deep.

[JohnnyAbonny]

1. Buck. Terrible gameplay, no adjustments. They have the best player in the league and used him like he’s  Milanovich-Litre. Buck Pierce is a shitty CFL OC, straight up. 
2. Lucky. Worst returner around these parts since Perry Floyd. Fumbling without being touched is inexcusable in the regular season, never mind the grey cup. 

3. Demski, worst game of the season, and worst season of his career. 
 

D was just average mostly, Willie had a good game. The secondary was hit and miss. Rest of the front 6 were atrocious. Tony Jones in particular was dogshit. 

This team is mentally weak and it starts with the coaching staff. 
 

 

Edited November 18 by JohnnyAbonny

[3rdand1.5]

O-line played well

....

Zach was bad...sorry I relly lile the guy but he was really bad....he was bad before the finger and really bad after...

 

Camt  understand not using Brady.....

[rebusrankin]

I have no flowers for anybody on our team. I'm off to shake my fist at the clouds.

[HardCoreBlue]

We keep Wilson in for good after ZC left the game due to his finger, wonder what happens? Change of pace might have been good. Won’t know now. 

[Booch]

19 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

We keep Wilson in for good after ZC left the game due to his finger, wonder what happens? Change of pace might have been good. Won’t know now. 

we will never know cause Osh will never...ever...EVER change the pace.....or replace an ineffective player....or drop an old vet.....or change his mindset......alter his philosophy....higly doubt evolve....and definitely wont change the smug face he likes at times when questioned....you can take that to the bank

He will tho play his fav's...whether they best option or not....he will use excessive Canadians when he doesn't have to, even if they are not the best available player, or vital to the ratio....and he will every yr roster a guy for no particular reason that has no business being on the roster....and he will in a big game dress a guy or 2 who dont even touch the field...even with injury issues....or lack of performance...Last yr it was BOLO....This yr it was Samson....who's it gonna be next yr?????

Edited November 18 by Booch

[K-Shack]

1. The coaching staff, and in particular the offense and by proxy MOS -- Horrible game plan pre Zach injury and post Zach injury. Horrible decision to stay with Zach post injury instead of trying Wilson or even Dolegala. 14 combined touches for Brady in a game that was close pre glove. Pathetic. 

2. Zach -- credit for gutting it out, I suppose, even though that arguably benefited Toronto more than us. But 6 completions in 3 quarters is hideous. It seems like he has little ability to read anything intermediate. Were the receivers just not getting open at all? Or was Zach just unable to see them? 

3. Nic / Nichols -- both laid eggs out there.

Hm. Lawler -- what happened to him tonight? He got 7 targets but only like 27 yards. Was he cold and not getting open? Or was he just getting missed by Zach?

You had one job -- Lucky Whitehead. Just catch the ball and secure it. I guess that's two jobs. 

Bright spots

1. Willie was a weapon for perhaps the first time all season. Great all round game on D from his run stop on Grant to his clearly awesome sack and pick.

2. Wilsons -- Ontaria and Terry. Leader in receptions (OW). Only meaningful touchdown (TW). And while he didn't throw a completion and almost threw a pick, Terry Wilson looked pretty poised in his first meaningful reps. He climbed the pocket and could sling it. I think we'd have had a better shot staying with him than with ZC. 

Edited November 18 by K-Shack
I forgot about Lucky

[captaincanuck12]

You remember back in week one where MOS decided to not use his starters in the preseason. And we got our ass handed to us by Montreal.

remember how s***** the o was.

We ended just like we started.

As for the highlights:

1. Willie J.   Guy was great all night.

2. Sergio hit his two fgs and PAT

3. Bonds with another INT that was promptly wasted by the O.

 

Edited November 18 by captaincanuck12

[Super Duper Negatron]

I'm just going to say it: having Zach go long on his first throw with a glove and an injured hand is fireable. Leave whoever made that call in BC. The single dumbest play call I can possibly imagine.

Would it have made a difference? Not likely. But the amount of brain rot required to make that call....

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 hour ago, Mike said:

That deep ball right off the bat with Zach testing out the glove hand has to go down as one of the dumbest ******* things I’ve ever seen.

And if that’s not coaching, I don’t know what it is. That should be so quickly addressed on the sideline before they take the field. Hey man, you’ve never worn that thing before, let’s feel it out before we sling it deep.

Yeah in all honestly if they had any doubts about his ability to throw I don't know why you don't just roll with Wilson.  He looked fine confidence wise when he was out there.

As much as I'll defend the coaching here, there's a "go down with the ship" culture with the vet players where if you questioned O'Shea on that he'd be like "but that's our QB."  And then you'd be like, but he doesn't have a throwing hand...but it doesn't seem to matter.  We're just going to lose the game with that guy throwing 3 more pick sixes because he's the guy.  And that is completely bonkers.  There's no adjustment to "what's our best chance to win the game based on the current reality." 

[Booch]

3 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Yeah in all honestly if they had any doubts about his ability to throw I don't know why you don't just roll with Wilson.  He looked fine confidence wise when he was out there.

As much as I'll defend the coaching here, there's a "go down with the ship" culture with the vet players where if you questioned O'Shea on that he'd be like "but that's our QB."  And then you'd be like, but he doesn't have a throwing hand...but it doesn't seem to matter.  We're just going to lose the game with that guy throwing 3 more pick sixes because he's the guy.  And that is completely bonkers.  There's no adjustment to "what's our best chance to win the game based on the current reality." 

Well he played him on 1 foot in 2022...played biggie on 1 leg and 3 recievers who couldn't run in 2023...are u remotely surprised?

The fact he said ZC couldn't grip the ball...yet still sent him out there tells you a lot...idiot is a harsh word...but if it walks like a duck.....

[17to85]

Collaros never should have gone back in when he couldn't throw without a glove. It changes how the ball comes out and it's not like they were lighting it up prior. 

Honestly this one is all receivers to me. Lawler mia. Lazy on the pass he stepped out on. Easily could have kept in bounds with some effort. Demski couldn't catch a cold until garbage time... wheatfall was worse than usless and I believe with some effort he could have prevented the first int except he was just waiting for the ball. I guess I can't complain about Wilson but geeze... that's it. And some people think we can move on from Schoen. Get outta here with that. 

I don't blame the game plan, I don't blame Zach, he got 0 help from his receivers.

[bluto]

I hate to be the one to do it but, people need to get off of demski's back. 

The kid was playing on one ankle and the fact that there was no better option than him isn't his fault.

[K-Shack]

3 minutes ago, bluto said:

I hate to be the one to do it but, people need to get off of demski's back. 

The kid was playing on one ankle and the fact that there was no better option than him isn't his fault.

Thanks for the perspective. At the game I didn't realize the injury was so bad. Lousy roster management that the only backup receiver we had on the roster was Lucky.