3 turds plus crappy honker. Long winter edition.

[Slimy Sculpin]

  On 2024-11-18 at 8:46 PM, 17to85 said:

Honestly I don't care which of Wilson or dolegala they had pegged as #2, they should have been playing after zachs injury. We don't know which was the right choice, neither got the chance.

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I had totally forgotten about Dolegala. Given his experience and the fact that he has been around the Bombers for a while leading up to the GC and, I assume, is by now familiar with the playbook, he might have been the guy to go in and finish the game. Collaros definitely wasn't that guy!

[Mike]

  On 2024-11-18 at 9:32 PM, Noeller said:

Jeff Hamilton piece from last week had details about an expletive laced tirade that MOS went on to the entire room following a loss earlier in the year. He's very much in charge, but also believes the vets can handle the room for the most part. 

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Yeah definitely in charge which is why two years in a row we have him ceding to veterans who are demanding to play when they have absolutely no business on the field

 

[HardCoreBlue]

Just curious, has MOS ever pulled ZC during is tenure here in a game other than when we're up by a zillion or he was injured and not able to continue?

In fact has MOS ever pulled a veteran player for his play during a game and/or took away any veterans starting role?

[Pete]

  On 2024-11-18 at 10:33 PM, HardCoreBlue said:

Just curious, has MOS ever pulled ZC during is tenure here in a game other than when we're up by a zillion or he was injured and not able to continue?

In fact has MOS ever pulled a veteran player for his play during a game and/or took away any veterans starting role?

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perhaps winston rose and darby

[kelownabomberfan]

  On 2024-11-18 at 9:12 PM, Tracker said:

 

Are the inmates running the asylum? Contrast that against the TSN report that in mid-season, LaVaris Daniels was carping about his playing time, so Dinwiddie threatened him with a trade. So Daniels smartened up immediately.

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Yes MOS's coaching style is reminding me of the wife's cousin's parenting style with their three year old...."we don't think he should juggle knives but you know that's what he wants to do right now..."  Come on O'Shea.  That was brutal letting Zach come back in.  Sitting up in the stands we had no idea what was going on, then I see Zach come out with a glove on and all I could think was 'This game is over"....

[johnzo]

  On 2024-11-18 at 10:33 PM, HardCoreBlue said:

In fact has MOS ever pulled a veteran player for his play during a game and/or took away any veterans starting role?

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Drew Willy, but that was a million years ago and Osh was on real thin ice at the time.

[Booch]

  On 2024-11-18 at 9:48 PM, JCon said:

And, they can. Have you ever heard about issues in that locker room? 

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outwardly none of you ever will.....and dont believe the press all the time....all i am saying

  On 2024-11-18 at 11:37 PM, johnzo said:

Drew Willy, but that was a million years ago and Osh was on real thin ice at the time.

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he was made to do that one....if it was all up to him.......

  On 2024-11-18 at 10:29 PM, Mike said:

Yeah definitely in charge which is why two years in a row we have him ceding to veterans who are demanding to play when they have absolutely no business on the field

 

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so....who runs things?....who males the critical decisions?....and leaving the room and temperature of yhour club...to the vet's with next to no input....recipe for 3 straight failures

[Tracker]

  On 2024-11-18 at 10:49 PM, kelownabomberfan said:

Yes MOS's coaching style is reminding me of the wife's cousin's parenting style with their three year old...."we don't think he should juggle knives but you know that's what he wants to do right now..."  Come on O'Shea.  That was brutal letting Zach come back in.  Sitting up in the stands we had no idea what was going on, then I see Zach come out with a glove on and all I could think was 'This game is over"....

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To be fair, the Bombers were scrooged waaay before that. 

[Goalie]

  On 2024-11-18 at 11:46 PM, Tracker said:

To be fair, the Bombers were scrooged waaay before that. 

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But they weren’t. It was close. Do u think this is the nfl and like a 6 point lead maybe 9 with 10 minutes left is just impossible to overcome. ??? 

41 24. 2 pick 6’s and a fg. Or 2 pick 6’s and a lucky fumble even. The o sucked but it wasn’t over and we partially kinda lost because in the end the O sucked but it was close until the pick 6’s and fumble. Argos didn’t exactly light it up ya know. It was close. Was it not like 19 16 at one point?  24 11 argos won the 4th quarter.  That means it was 17 13 with 1 quarter to go.  Not over at all. 
 

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[17to85]

What was it 27 points off turnovers? There's the game right there.

[Goalie]

  On 2024-11-19 at 1:35 AM, 17to85 said:

What was it 27 points off turnovers? There's the game right there.

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Did the D give up a td that wasn’t because of a turnover ? Maybe 1 right 

Bombers spent lots of $$$ on the O. In the end they failed. Someone needs to be accountable for the poor O play. It’s easy to blame receivers but if you need 2 or 3 superstar receivers to be good then maybe you ain’t so great. 
 

im looking at Zach and or buck. One needs to go. Zach probably isn’t gonna retire so, buck needs to go. High priced O was **** all year. Except Brady. He was good. 

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[17to85]

Bottom line is you gotta make plays. Not every play is picture perfect,  but when you have opportunities to make a play you have to seize it. There is entirely too much money being spent on the offense for the up and down season they've had.

[SpeedFlex27]

  On 2024-11-18 at 6:52 AM, 17to85 said:

Nah defense was fine, can't win when your offense can't get first downs. 

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Defense wins championships. Offense sells tickets. Our gameplan on D made no sense. Ruxh three, drop 9 & no pressure?? Why dress SEVEN DL when you only play 3 at a time? Once again, Osh's use of our roster made no sense. 

[Booch]

  On 2024-11-19 at 9:33 AM, SpeedFlex27 said:

Defense wins championships. Offense sells tickets. Our gameplan on D made no sense. Ruxh three, drop 9 & no pressure?? Why dress SEVEN DL when you only play 3 at a time? Once again, Osh's use of our roster made no sense. 

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why dress 7...one which never took a snap (Samson) ...especially when 2 of them (Thomas/Schmeck) were having zero impact??...shades of 2023.....3 receiver's could not run...as another BOLO stood on sidelines' all game long with zero snaps....no **** he took his ball and ran away in free agency.....and we also had vet Ambles here....who could have stepped in and played a role....if anything took attention away from the Mtl defence and made some kind of impact...I think we played a useless I cant run Biggie too...I may be mistaken tho 😁....thats some Grey Cup "winning" management there kids

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[17to85]

  On 2024-11-19 at 9:33 AM, SpeedFlex27 said:

Defense wins championships. Offense sells tickets. Our gameplan on D made no sense. Ruxh three, drop 9 & no pressure?? Why dress SEVEN DL when you only play 3 at a time? Once again, Osh's use of our roster made no sense. 

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Our offense didn't generate anything and the team gave up 27 points off turnovers! Defense can't win the game on their own. 

[Booch]

  On 2024-11-19 at 1:29 PM, 17to85 said:

Our offense didn't generate anything and the team gave up 27 points off turnovers! Defense can't win the game on their own. 

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this shitass scheme/game prep....aka coaching just compounded other issues....and hence...3 in a row....but hey we won 4 yrs ago tho....got first place 4 straight....big deal

[JohnnyAbonny]

  On 2024-11-19 at 1:29 PM, Booch said:

why dress 7...one which never took a snap (Samson) ...especially when 2 of them (Thomas/Schmeck) were having zero impact??...shades of 2023.....3 receiver's could not run...as another BOLO stood on sidelines' all game long with zero snaps....no **** he took his ball and ran away in free agency.....and we also had vet Ambles here....who could have stepped in and played a role....if anything took attention away from the Mtl defence and made some kind of impact...I think we played a useless I cant run Biggie too...I may be mistaken tho 😁....thats some Grey Cup "winning" management there kids

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Demski couldn’t run this year, and we didn’t have another Canadian WR on the roster (or the PR even) to replace him. Far down the list of reasons for the loss, just another example. Actually it says a lot about our PR use too, which has been abysmal the last few seasons. 

[Booch]

  On 2024-11-19 at 1:45 PM, JohnnyAbonny said:

Demski couldn’t run this year, and we didn’t have another Canadian WR on the roster (or the PR even) to replace him. Far down the list of reasons for the loss, just another example. Actually it says a lot about our PR use too, which has been abysmal the last few seasons. 

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It's been putrid.....We had Murphy...but he never gets a shot...so again...why carry him now 2 yrs running??....baffling to say the least

[Deiter Fan]

Another officiating crappy honker to add to the list. Would it have changed anything? Obviously we'll never know...but when you add them all up you can't tell me it wouldn't have added up to something.

 

[Fatty Liver]

  On 2024-11-19 at 8:23 PM, Deiter Fan said:

Another officiating crappy honker to add to the list. Would it have changed anything? Obviously we'll never know...but when you add them all up you can't tell me it wouldn't have added up to something.

 

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I was baffled when CC overturned the off-side call against the Argo receiver, what pretext did they have for stepping in randomly like that?

[HardCoreBlue]

  On 2024-11-19 at 8:33 PM, Fatty Liver said:

I was baffled when CC overturned the off-side call against the Argo receiver, what pretext did they have for stepping in randomly like that?

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Perfect question to open up a discussion this off-season on how to improve the role and consistency of how CC operates.

I think that's a fair and reasonable ask.

 

[bigg jay]

  On 2024-11-19 at 8:33 PM, Fatty Liver said:

I was baffled when CC overturned the off-side call against the Argo receiver, what pretext did they have for stepping in randomly like that?

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Yeah their revised rules state that the CC can intervene when a clear & obvious error had occurred.  That was not clear or obvious - TSN had to slow it down & replay it like 3-4 times and even then it was iffy.  The call on the field should have stood.

[JCon]

  On 2024-11-19 at 8:40 PM, bigg jay said:

Yeah their revised rules state that the CC can intervene when a clear & obvious error had occurred.  That was not clear or obvious - TSN had to slow it down & replay it like 3-4 times and even then it was iffy.  The call on the field should have stood.

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It's Toronto. You knew it was going to happen because it always does. The commish wore Toronto colours to the game, FFS. 

[wbbfan]

  On 2024-11-19 at 8:40 PM, bigg jay said:

Yeah their revised rules state that the CC can intervene when a clear & obvious error had occurred.  That was not clear or obvious - TSN had to slow it down & replay it like 3-4 times and even then it was iffy.  The call on the field should have stood.

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 Cc and challenge system needs a major overhaul. Fans in every market will agree to that. 

[Dr Zaius]

Jeff Hamilton if you're reading this -- I appreciate you asking some actual hard hitting questions to ZC in the post game presser.

Very refreshing to see media people not just lob up meatball questions like 90% of the time 

Edit: and they're not purposefully ridiculous questions like Friesen 

Edited November 19, 2024 by Dr Zaius