3 turds plus crappy honker. Long winter edition.

[Booch]

1 minute ago, blue85gold said:

I mean yes you're right I can't see things that didn't happen. Anything could have happened. 

I'm just saying we were f$%#ed either way.

and its a reflection of poor roster management...and not just at QB....

[blue85gold]

5 minutes ago, Booch said:

and its a reflection of poor roster management...and not just at QB....

I don't disagree. 

[Fatty Liver]

32 minutes ago, blue85gold said:

We obviously are built that way. With Strev already out, when Zach got hurt we were screwed. 

Most teams are screwed if their top 2 QBs are out. Unless the D and specials can score some points (see the Argos)

Buck had 2 months to prepare Dolegala to learn the offence, there is no excuse for not being better prepared for Zach to leave the game, which he had to do multiple times this past season.

[17to85]

Argos had  one chance of pulling off a win in 2022 with their backup qb after the starter hurt his hand.... 

Bottom line collaros with a numb index finger and a glove wasn't going to win. 

[wbbfan]

3 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Argos had  one chance of pulling off a win in 2022 with their backup qb after the starter hurt his hand.... 

Bottom line collaros with a numb index finger and a glove wasn't going to win. 

And even then after the first pass when he came back. Every person watching knew it was over. To trot him out after that duck again and again is the peak of futility.  

[Super Duper Negatron]

43 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

And even then after the first pass when he came back. Every person watching knew it was over. To trot him out after that duck again and again is the peak of futility.  

Its actually disturbing that after the first pick they just sat back and watched everything burn rather than trying literally anything else.

[wbbfan]

29 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Its actually disturbing that after the first pick they just sat back and watched everything burn rather than trying literally anything else.

It was like watching a Michael bay car crash series in slow motion complete with nuclear scale explosions. 

[HardCoreBlue]

2 hours ago, WBBFanWest said:

You have no way of knowing that, none at all.  We had every bit as good a chance with our backups vs a starter who clearly could not throw the ball.  A good leader sets up his people to succeed.  With this boneheaded decision, O'Shea set up Collaros and the rest of the team to fail.  One has to ask why he thought a qb with a damaged hand was a better option than a fully functioning backup, who in theory, is there for exactly this sort of situation.

A genuine question I would like to ask MOS and crew is other than short yardage and your starting QB unable to go because physically he can't return due to serious injury, what circumstances do you and your coaching staff use to determine there is a need to make a switch at QB in-game?

For sure there's a better way in asking this question, but is it reasonable to ask this flavor of question without being mocked that I think I know more than MOS and his crew know?

I think it's a reasonable question to receive some specifics even if we have made 5 GC appearances in a row (hopefully 6 next year) which I am forever thankful.

 

Edited November 20 by HardCoreBlue

[Goalie]

5 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

A genuine question I would like to ask MOS and crew is other than short yardage and your starting QB unable to go because physically he can't return due to serious injury, what circumstances do and your coaching staff use to determine there is a need to make a switch at QB in-game?

For sure there's a better way in asking this question, but is it reasonable to ask this flavor of question without being mocked that I think I know more than MOS and his crew know?

I think it's a reasonable question to receive some specifics even if we have made 5 GC appearances in a row (hopefully 6 next year) which I am forever thankful.

 

I’d like to know that answer. 

[Booch]

7 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

A genuine question I would like to ask MOS and crew is other than short yardage and your starting QB unable to go because physically he can't return due to serious injury, what circumstances do and your coaching staff use to determine there is a need to make a switch at QB in-game?

For sure there's a better way in asking this question, but is it reasonable to ask this flavor of question without being mocked that I think I know more than MOS and his crew know?

I think it's a reasonable question to receive some specifics even if we have made 5 GC appearances in a row (hopefully 6 next year) which I am forever thankful.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Goalie said:

I’d like to know that answer. 

there are no dumb questions really......and there is a list of questions.....and justifications for some things I wish could be asked....and as fans I think almost a right to lnow why...

[Goalie]

Community owned team. Community deserves answers. 

[HardCoreBlue]

4 minutes ago, Booch said:

 

there are no dumb questions really......and there is a list of questions.....and justifications for some things I wish could be asked....and as fans I think almost a right to know why...

See I'm different than you here on this (not right or wrong just different), I don't think I have any right to know anything in how MOS and Crew run their football team, I just think certain things are pretty reasonable and fair to ask them. It's up to the person (s) receiving the question whether they want to answer. Their answer or non-answer can be telling.

[Booch]

8 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

See I'm different than you here on this (not right or wrong just different), I don't think I have any right to know anything in how MOS and Crew run their football team, I just think certain things are pretty reasonable and fair to ask them. It's up to the person (s) receiving the question whether they want to answer. Their answer or non-answer can be telling.

as a paying fan...who pays his salry...support the team.....why dont you have a right to have a question asked?...Not asking for them to disclose x and o's and finer details...but why 3 yrs in a row play injured guys....why have a PR that doesnt have adequate injury coverage...why play inferior players just because they been here longer....why play excessive Canadians when you have better Imports.....thats not outrageous by any means...justify it....and not with his canned response "they are here cause they can help us win".....I bet if fans start to stay away...Miller won't be too pleased about it...And I hope he is asking those questions

[Tracker]

21 hours ago, Loonatik said:

I am a long time peruser of your site, I never comment, never even opened an account until tonight. I am a Rider fan, wasn't even going to watch the GC but did because I am a CFL fan. I really want to smugly comment on your team's performance but can't because I too have felt the pain. I do feel compelled to offer an alternative to the narrative I'm seeing expressed. 
 

'The West Final gassed your team.'

I watched the WF, the way the Bombers played, fed off the crowd, like damn, the highest of highs. They came out flat in the GC, with the exception of a few.

My opinion with no skin in the game.

I cannot accept that the Bomber played that poorly in the Cup game because they played so well against the Greenies- that ought to have gotten absolutely pumped against the Argos. 

[Noeller]

I've really been trying to avoid conflict as much as possible, but I LOLed over this... So I'll share it even though it's going to cause a ruckus...

 

 

[Tracker]

13 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I've really been trying to avoid conflict as much as possible, but I LOLed over this... So I'll share it even though it's going to cause a ruckus...

 

 

It was not his decision. 

[Goalie]

22 minutes ago, Tracker said:

It was not his decision. 

I heard he wanted to go back in. Who to believe really. 

[Arnold_Palmer]

45 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I've really been trying to avoid conflict as much as possible, but I LOLed over this... So I'll share it even though it's going to cause a ruckus...

 

 

I mean I don’t blame him. He’s a competitor. As a player you always have to have that confidence that you’re going to preform no matter what. It’s up to the coaches to make those decisions  

[17to85]

No player worth anything is ever going to not want to play. 

Coaches needed to sit him down.

[wbbfan]

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

No player worth anything is ever going to not want to play. 

Coaches needed to sit him down.

100%. If you find any player like that, he’s the first guy to get rid of imo. No matter the rest of the details. 
 That was the biggest thing I didn’t like about maas as a player. His contentment to sit behind ray and be qb2 for life was pathetic. 

[johnzo]

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

 That was the biggest thing I didn’t like about maas as a player. His contentment to sit behind ray and be qb2 for life was pathetic. 

I don't get that.  Maas was injured and in and out of the lineup in both 2002 and 2003, was the undisputed starter in 2004 when Ray was in the NFL, was the backup to Ray for all of 2005, and then he peaced out to the TiCats in 2006.  After flaming out as the TiCat starter, he bounced around the league after that, even refusing to report to Montreal were he would've been Calvillo's backup. 

Maybe you're thinking of Drew Tate, who seemed extremely content to be the #2 in Calgary?

Edited November 22 by johnzo

[wbbfan]

27 minutes ago, johnzo said:

I don't get that.  Maas was injured and in and out of the lineup in both 2002 and 2003, was the undisputed starter in 2004 when Ray was in the NFL, was the backup to Ray for all of 2005, and then he peaced out to the TiCats in 2006.  After flaming out as the TiCat starter, he bounced around the league after that, even refusing to report to Montreal were he would've been Calvillo's backup. 

Maybe you're thinking of Drew Tate, who seemed extremely content to be the #2 in Calgary?

He wasn’t in and out for injury in 02/03, the went from a 2qb system to Maas the back up. He played 18 games a year for his first 7 seasons. 
 He was open about being happy to back up ray in 02 when he lost the spot, 03, and 05. Then he went back to back up ray in 08, 09, and 10. 108 games played with Ricky ray, 7 starts. He was very open about being content to be qb2. 

[bb1]

6 hours ago, 17to85 said:

No player worth anything is ever going to not want to play. 

Coaches needed to sit him down.

Yup i agree and if Streveler was healthy i believe that would of been it for Zac. It comes down to a hurt Zac over Wilson or Dolegala and MOS rolled the dice. T.O was using a guy nobody else wanted so it definitely was more than just our QB. We just were not good enough.