The positivity thread (don’t look back in anger)

[wbbfan]

Not every one will be ready for this and that’s understandable. But we will definitely need a shot of positivity around here this off season. 
 With that in mind here are some things I look forward to with the bombers in a positive light only. 
 

Terry Wilson. I was extremely impressed by how poised and in control he was when he came in. Stepped up in the pocket, kept his eyes down field when pressured and threw with authority. He has Great arm talent, and athleticism. But the mental side of him looks legit too. I look forward to seeing him progress next year. 
 

another Canadian draft. We really cleaned up in this last draft, which was a strong draft to be fair. So I don’t expect us to replicate that success, but adding another piece or two to the AR will be huge for our NI depth. 
 
On that note, our rookie Canadians did better than I expected this year. I can’t wait to see big kev with another tc under his belt, think Wallace will be poised to take a starting spot next year, mci came a very long way as a blocker too. I hope to see a good chunk of pre season reps for mci to play rb so we can see what he has and let him develop. He went from a guy out of place on an AR to a solid FB in one season and that’s pretty good. 
 

Kelly, I think he has a sneaky good chance of becoming our starting S next year. Imagine 3 starting Canadian dbs? Never thought I’d see that on a good team. 
 

tyjuan garbutt really turned a corner late. He isn’t the instant dominant pass rusher we need, but he’s a damn good two way end who plays with discipline. Imo he’d be excellent as a di rotational back up next year. 
 

Ayers and Cole. I’d love to see more of Ayers at mac and Cole at wil. Both guys are monsters on teams just scratching at their potential but are still a lot of fun to watch. 
 

Devin adams. Such an incredible athlete and raw talent. Gonna be awesome to watch him in his first full camp. 
 

Woods. Our best dl for my money all year. Guys a beast who can play a bunch of inside positions and some edge especially in the 30 front. Only 25 years old and the sky is the limit. 
 

can lawson and schoen the return. Nuff said. Love what both these guys bring. 
 

Owen Hubert. Really over achieved early. Hit the rookie wall hard. But showed a ton of lunch box type stuff that could make him a very valuable rotational piece next year. 
 

The majority of the secondary as well. Holm and Kramdi stepped up big, griffin and bonds were excellent Nichols was my modp for us and ford legit would’ve been moc in the league most years. How do you improve on that? Well Nichols is the only guy at 30. So another year could bring improvement for each of those guys. 
 

JY. Through some early struggles he really turned a rag tag group of guys into an elite pass defence. I can’t imagine what more he has in store with a year of growth and prep. 

[Booch]

yup...maybe merge this with my thread mr moderator...

 

[bigg jay]

Hubert finished on the PR so I don't think he's part of the plans for next year.  Looking at who we stashed on the 1 game in the days leading up to GC, there's some no-brainers but a couple guys I just don't get:

• Jamal Woods
• Marquise Bridges
• Kody Case
• MCI
• Kendall Randolph
• Brian Cole
• Devin Adams
• Myron Mitchell
• Jay Persons

Not sure what Case or Mitchell showed that warranted being brought back where a guy like Chris Smith was left on the PR?

Edited 9 hours ago by bigg jay
added info on Smith

[Booch]

Bridges I think has potential....Case and Mitchell...why...we dont need those kid of body type receivers and neither is gonna be a bonafide returner....The rest are good keeps...I don't see Smith....dumb as he had most potentail and could have been an American version of Demski....but faster

[wbbfan]

14 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

Hubert finished on the PR so I don't think he's part of the plans for next year.  Looking at who we stashed on the 1 game in the days leading up to GC, there's some no-brainers but a couple guys I just don't get:

• Jamal Woods
• Marquise Bridges
• Kody Case
• MCI
• Kendall Randolph
• Brian Cole
• Devin Adams
• Myron Mitchell
• Jay Persons

Not sure what Case or Mitchell showed that warranted being brought back where a guy like Chris Smith was left on the PR?

I think it’s just because he hit the wall hard. I fully expect him to be brought back for next year. Iirc the rookie drafted contract holds up if ending on the pr. They aren’t auto released like vets and imps. Might be wrong, but even in that case I think they bring him back. 
 

Agree, I think Kase is shifty and could be dangerous but he looked real raw. 

13 minutes ago, Booch said:

Bridges I think has potential....Case and Mitchell...why...we dont need those kid of body type receivers and neither is gonna be a bonafide returner....The rest are good keeps...I don't see Smith....dumb as he had most potentail and could have been an American version of Demski....but faster

Bridges improved a bunch over his looks. I definitely think he’s a project guy for us. Which we’ve done fairly well with in the past. 

[bigg jay]

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

I think it’s just because he hit the wall hard. I fully expect him to be brought back for next year. Iirc the rookie drafted contract holds up if ending on the pr. They aren’t auto released like vets and imps. Might be wrong, but even in that case I think they bring him back. 

I don't think it does, otherwise MCI wouldn't have been moved from the PR to the 1 game.

[wbbfan]

3 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

I don't think it does, otherwise MCI wouldn't have been moved from the PR to the 1 game.

Might be right. Might also be pr numbers issue. I think we were at the limit. Personally I’d bet on him being back. Didn’t  Schemekel end on the pr last year? Idr. 

[Tracker]

6 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

I don't think it does, otherwise MCI wouldn't have been moved from the PR to the 1 game.

Or. it could fall into the category of "mysterious moves by O'Shea"

[bigg jay]

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

Might be right. Might also be pr numbers issue. I think we were at the limit. Personally I’d bet on him being back. Didn’t  Schemekel end on the pr last year? Idr. 

Single game for Schmekel last year.  But yeah, it's not to say he can't or won't be back - we just don't have his rights anymore so the ball is in his court.

[17to85]

let's give some props to Pokey Wilson too. in a situation where he's #3 or 4 that's a dangerous weapon to have to deal with. 

 

Everyone is down after last night, understandable but there's a lot to like going forward and now it's up to Walters to make some smart moves in the offseason and this team can continue to roll. 

[Arnold_Palmer]

A lot of good pieces here for the future. I would be so excited for this core if we had Dru Brown here this season. Sure maybe because of the injuries and growing pains I’m not sure we would have won the west with Dru this season but we would be set for a really outstanding 2025 season with the grey cup at home. Now it really feels like a tale of two teams. The old under achieving vets, and the young come to play rookies. I sincerely hope Walters and management look in the mirror and start to make the tough decisions on guys who have been here long after their expiration date. A blow out in the grey cup is an embarrassment and this is now the third straight grey cup that we were out coached and lost to a team who wanted it more. There’s a lot of young pieces on this team that are ready to make the leap but it all falls under which direction they want to take the team in. 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

Tre Ford solves 2 problems. Backup and replacement for ZC.

[JCon]

2 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Tre Ford solves 2 problems. Backup and replacement for ZC.

He solves zero problems. He is not going to be a QB in this league in a few years. 

[17to85]

2 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Tre Ford solves 2 problems. Backup and replacement for ZC.

So then why wasn't he the qb in edmonton?

[FrostyWinnipeg]

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

So then why wasn't he the qb in edmonton?

For the same reason they didnt make the playoffs.

[Super Duper Negatron]

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

So then why wasn't he the qb in edmonton?

Because they are too busy trying to pass the Bethel Test:

- At least two ancestors

- The ancestors must have a conversation with each other

- The conversation has to be about something other than football

 

[HardCoreBlue]

The one thing that blows my mind as a BB hardcore fan when I really think about it is we had the chance to win 5, count it, five Grey Cups in a row.

Let's make it six times consecutive next year.

Yes we've only one two thus so far in this span but big picture point of view there is no other place I'd want to be.

[GCn20]

2 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

The one thing that blows my mind as a BB hardcore fan when I really think about it is we had the chance to win 5, count it, five Grey Cups in a row.

Let's make it six times consecutive next year.

Yes we've only one two thus so far in this span but big picture point of view there is no other place I'd want to be.

I mean we are sitting here grousing about another blown Grey Cup appearance, but just imagine how it is to be a Rider fan. 

[wbbfan]

2 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

I mean we are sitting here grousing about another blown Grey Cup appearance, but just imagine how it is to be a Rider fan. 

The best they can hope for is us losing lol. 

[17to85]

Honestly it's a lot ******* better losing because you got your ass kicked than itnis losing a close game. There's no what if this, what if that, they sucked and need to be better bottom line.

[GCn20]

Just now, wbbfan said:

The best they can hope for is us losing lol. 

Imagine their Grey Cup parties yesterday. Nothing...just a bottle of Orange Fanta with some home made potato vodka and an empty pit in their stomach, from watching other teams play, all right there where the chicken wings and Chili should be. What a miserable existence that would be.

2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Honestly it's a lot ******* better losing because you got your ass kicked than itnis losing a close game. There's no what if this, what if that, they sucked and need to be better bottom line.

It's hard to take either way.

[Booch]

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

let's give some props to Pokey Wilson too. in a situation where he's #3 or 4 that's a dangerous weapon to have to deal with. 

 

Everyone is down after last night, understandable but there's a lot to like going forward and now it's up to Walters to make some smart moves in the offseason and this team can continue to roll. 

this is vital...key...imperative??..call it whatever but Walters needs to take some of the control away from Osh as to who he can roster

 

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

Might be right. Might also be pr numbers issue. I think we were at the limit. Personally I’d bet on him being back. Didn’t  Schemekel end on the pr last year? Idr. 

 

1 hour ago, bigg jay said:

I don't think it does, otherwise MCI wouldn't have been moved from the PR to the 1 game.

I'm trying to recall how pay goes for playoff money for players, but possibly MCI was 1 gamed to give him game day pay? There may be a limit to how many get bonus playoff game cheque....dont quote that for truth but could be part of it

But we have a solid younger core now....as I laid out in my other thread....if someone can merge that into this and remove it then it cam be all in one

6 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Imagine their Grey Cup parties yesterday. Nothing...just a bottle of Orange Fanta with some home made potato vodka and an empty pit in their stomach, from watching other teams play, all right there where the chicken wings and Chili should be. What a miserable existence that would be.

It's hard to take either way.

I see them more as Mr Pib drinkers and toilet hooch....and microwaved Jamaican meat pies from 7/11....

[rebusrankin]

Walters needs to be ruthless this off season. Time to channel his inner Don Matthews or Wally Buono.

[GCn20]

4 minutes ago, Booch said:

this is vital...key...imperative??..call it whatever but Walters needs to take some of the control away from Osh as to who he can roster

 

 

I'm trying to recall how pay goes for playoff money for players, but possibly MCI was 1 gamed to give him game day pay? There may be a limit to how many get bonus playoff game cheque....dont quote that for truth but could be part of it

But we have a solid younger core now....as I laid out in my other thread....if someone can merge that into this and remove it then it cam be all in one

I see them more as Mr Pib drinkers and toilet hooch....and microwaved Jamaican meat pies from 7/11....

Unless 7/11's in Saskatchewan have been putting racoon or possum in their meat pies I doubt that is what they were eating. Mr. Pib and toilet hooch....perhaps.

Just now, rebusrankin said:

Walters needs to be ruthless this off season. Time to channel his inner Don Matthews or Wally Buono.

By Don or Wally comparison's I assume you are talking about jettisoning off older players? If so, who and who is replacing them. I mean, Biggie is a given and probably Alexander...who else?

[Super Duper Negatron]

Just now, rebusrankin said:

Walters needs to be ruthless this off season. Time to channel his inner Don Matthews or Wally Buono.

Let's say Zach has one year left. And let's say there are a bunch of QBs available this offseason:

Ford, VAJ, Alexander, McCheese (barf)

Would you cut bait on one year of Zach for multiple years of any of the above?