The positivity thread (don’t look back in anger)

[Super Duper Negatron]

2 minutes ago, BomberfanMKS said:

I mean the final score looked pretty bad for this game... but the Bombers were right there until Zach started throwing int's after his finger was hurt.

He doesn't hurt his finger the game was absolutely winnable (the long toss to Wilson that got picked SHOULD have been a huge play, Zach throws that in the right place it's maybe even a home run)

Oh my god I just realized, the finger injury is Osh's alibi this year isn't it. No changes will be made and we will have learned nothing.

[White Out]

7 minutes ago, BomberfanMKS said:

I mean the final score looked pretty bad for this game... but the Bombers were right there until Zach started throwing int's after his finger was hurt.

He doesn't hurt his finger the game was absolutely winnable (the long toss to Wilson that got picked SHOULD have been a huge play, Zach throws that in the right place it's maybe even a home run)

This is such a false narrative. Until you hurt his finger he still had 114 yard passing. In the 4th quarter 

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

A chance? Yes. Do we have a way to control our destiny and take that game? I don’t think so. 
 

D did what it had to. I think they’ll be even better next year. 

Maybe.

[Pete]

5 hours ago, wbbfan said:

 

 

 

Edited Monday at 09:10 PM by Pete

[M.Silverback]

21 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Oh my god I just realized, the finger injury is Osh's alibi this year isn't it. No changes will be made and we will have learned nothing.

Yup. And his quote in the 3downnation article “We put him in a very tough spot,” O’Shea said at the podium. “It was a situation he demanded to be put in.” So, being a head coach means that players get to make playing demands, and you listen? Even when he admittedly can't grip a football and his finger is numb? Then throws two int's? Hey I'm not team Terry Wilson, but in that situation I'd take my chances with a guy who doesn't have a stitched up, bleeding throwing hand, and at least can run!

[Pete]

6 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Not every one will be ready for this and that’s understandable. But we will definitely need a shot of positivity around here this off season. 
 With that in mind here are some things I look forward to with the bombers in a positive light only. 
 

Terry Wilson. I was extremely impressed by how poised and in control he was when he came in. Stepped up in the pocket, kept his eyes down field when pressured and threw with authority. He has Great arm talent, and athleticism. But the mental side of him looks legit too. I look forward to seeing him progress next year. 
Not sure I'd want to go into next season with Wilson as the main backup, he hasn't show the ability to take over the offence (to be fair hasn't been given the chance) My suggestion is renegotiate Zac's salary so we can go after Ford, ALexander. or Mair. (or if can't renegotiate move on from Zac and go after two of the above. As a 3rd developement qb Wilson would be good

another Canadian draft. We really cleaned up in this last draft, which was a strong draft to be fair. So I don’t expect us to replicate that success, but adding another piece or two to the AR will be huge for our NI depth. 
 
On that note, our rookie Canadians did better than I expected this year. I can’t wait to see big kev with another tc under his belt, think Wallace will be poised to take a starting spot next year, mci came a very long way as a blocker too. I hope to see a good chunk of pre season reps for mci to play rb so we can see what he has and let him develop. He went from a guy out of place on an AR to a solid FB in one season and that’s pretty good. 
 

Kelly, I think he has a sneaky good chance of becoming our starting S next year. Imagine 3 starting Canadian dbs? Never thought I’d see that on a good team. 
Kelly's tackling ability is still a question mark as is his ability to lay on a big hit (ala Kasantonis) I'd like to see an upgrade here to him and Alexander

tyjuan garbutt really turned a corner late. He isn’t the instant dominant pass rusher we need, but he’s a damn good two way end who plays with discipline. Imo he’d be excellent as a di rotational back up next year. 
Agree!

Ayers and Cole. I’d love to see more of Ayers at mac and Cole at wil. Both guys are monsters on teams just scratching at their potential but are still a lot of fun to watch. 
Same

Devin adams. Such an incredible athlete and raw talent. Gonna be awesome to watch him in his first full camp. 
 

Woods. Our best dl for my money all year. Guys a beast who can play a bunch of inside positions and some edge especially in the 30 front. Only 25 years old and the sky is the limit. 
We would still need a 2nd quality tackle to rotate with Lawson and him, Just have to look at  Toronto with Ceresna Holley and Brinkman to see what a difference that would make

can lawson and schoen the return. Nuff said. Love what both these guys bring. 
 

Owen Hubert. Really over achieved early. Hit the rookie wall hard. But showed a ton of lunch box type stuff that could make him a very valuable rotational piece next year. 
 

The majority of the secondary as well. Holm and Kramdi stepped up big, griffin and bonds were excellent Nichols was my modp for us and ford legit would’ve been moc in the league most years. How do you improve on that? Well Nichols is the only guy at 30. So another year could bring improvement for each of those guys. 
Biggest question here is can we resign Ford. hes going to get a lot of attention. Will he want a pkg deal with his brother out east (ie Hamilton)? I do agree the secondary was a big strength

JY. Through some early struggles he really turned a rag tag group of guys into an elite pass defence. I can’t imagine what more he has in store with a year of growth and prep. 

 

Edited Monday at 09:20 PM by Pete

[wbbfan]

10 minutes ago, Pete said:

 

Yeah I wouldn’t want to jump ship on collaros till we have the next guy lined up and signed. 
 

Kelly is a solid tackler, he had one big hit this year but I don’t think he’s a hitter. 
 

If we flip the ratio at S we wouldn’t need another ni dt. We’d take an imp off for an ni which could allow us to throw in an imp db for Kelly some times. 
 Though I think Hubert helps. I’d also keep both back up ni dts in camp for next year. Wouldn’t hurt to draft another but that’s pretty solid depth. 

I think we will pay ford well and I think he will want to stay in JYs system. Teams may come for him, but it took time to get used to the system I don’t think he’d want to risk how other teams play. 

[Slimy Sculpin]

2 hours ago, BomberfanMKS said:

I mean the final score looked pretty bad for this game... but the Bombers were right there until Zach started throwing int's after his finger was hurt.

He doesn't hurt his finger the game was absolutely winnable (the long toss to Wilson that got picked SHOULD have been a huge play, Zach throws that in the right place it's maybe even a home run)

I like your positivity!

[Tracker]

2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Yeah I wouldn’t want to jump ship on collaros till we have the next guy lined up and signed. 
 

Kelly is a solid tackler, he had one big hit this year but I don’t think he’s a hitter. 
 

If we flip the ratio at S we wouldn’t need another ni dt. We’d take an imp off for an ni which could allow us to throw in an imp db for Kelly some times. 
 Though I think Hubert helps. I’d also keep both back up ni dts in camp for next year. Wouldn’t hurt to draft another but that’s pretty solid depth. 

I think we will pay ford well and I think he will want to stay in JYs system. Teams may come for him, but it took time to get used to the system I don’t think he’d want to risk how other teams play. 

But what will happen if/when Younger leaves? I am still puzzled at Hubert's excommunication- he looked at least better than Thomas and Schmekel and suddenly he was deemed unfit to play a down.

[Booch]

2 hours ago, White Out said:

This is such a false narrative. Until you hurt his finger he still had 114 yard passing. In the 4th quarter 

yup...he had shoen no signs of being in command of anything...let alone putting any sustained drives together.....but yeah...we got the busted finger Osh alibi now....

 

2 hours ago, M.Silverback said:

Yup. And his quote in the 3downnation article “We put him in a very tough spot,” O’Shea said at the podium. “It was a situation he demanded to be put in.” So, being a head coach means that players get to make playing demands, and you listen? Even when he admittedly can't grip a football and his finger is numb? Then throws two int's? Hey I'm not team Terry Wilson, but in that situation I'd take my chances with a guy who doesn't have a stitched up, bleeding throwing hand, and at least can run!

damn...maybe Cole...Adams....Woods....Smith should have demanded the same for games and grey cup....piss poor answer from a scuffling HC who at times has no answer...smug grin couldnt solve that one

 

2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Yeah I wouldn’t want to jump ship on collaros till we have the next guy lined up and signed. 
 

Kelly is a solid tackler, he had one big hit this year but I don’t think he’s a hitter. 
 

If we flip the ratio at S we wouldn’t need another ni dt. We’d take an imp off for an ni which could allow us to throw in an imp db for Kelly some times. 
 Though I think Hubert helps. I’d also keep both back up ni dts in camp for next year. Wouldn’t hurt to draft another but that’s pretty solid depth. 

I think we will pay ford well and I think he will want to stay in JYs system. Teams may come for him, but it took time to get used to the system I don’t think he’d want to risk how other teams play. 

even if we just use Ford and Kramdi.....and the 6 on offence....and the nationalized American where ever...we dont even need a Canadian DT except for Lawson for roration...or meet ratio on a play per pla basis....fix and formukate your roster to do so...other teams seem to have no problem rostering 7...8 solid dlineman with only 1 or 2 needing to be a Canadian

12 minutes ago, Tracker said:

But what will happen if/when Younger leaves? I am still puzzled at Hubert's excommunication- he looked at least better than Thomas and Schmekel and suddenly he was deemed unfit to play a down.

I could suit up and offer more....and actually look like a football player with athleticism and skill than either of them...not some guy from a beer league mixed slo ptch league,,,,,As per the 3eownnation article I gonna go demand my play time for 2025!!!....hoefully 55 is still available....or they send JA packing as I wore 27 too...no knock on Johny as he has done what he been asked to...

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

But what will happen if/when Younger leaves? I am still puzzled at Hubert's excommunication- he looked at least better than Thomas and Schmekel and suddenly he was deemed unfit to play a down.

I dont think that happens any time soon. I think we got a couple years. Plus if buck leaves it gives him the opportunity to become ast hc in a year or two. I fully believe he will continue to hone his craft as a dc and not rush. 
 Hubert dropped off hard for several games before getting parked on the pr. He looked to hit the wall to me. I was surprised he didn’t get a shot to come off though. 

[Goalie]

4 hours ago, White Out said:

This is such a false narrative. Until you hurt his finger he still had 114 yard passing. In the 4th quarter 

But the game was close still. The o was bad but luckys fumble was the back breaker in the end. It wasn’t exactly an offensive outburst or anything. After the long pic when Zach came back in the game wasn’t over really. It was but it wasn’t. Look what happened in Montreal. Kept it close till the end right then won with the help of the gods. CFL man. Game was there for us regardless of how bad we actually were. Historically bad even. 

Edited Tuesday at 01:27 AM by Goalie

[Goalie]

4 hours ago, White Out said:

This is such a false narrative. Until you hurt his finger he still had 114 yard passing. In the 4th quarter 

But going into the 4th it was 17 13 argos 

[johnzo]

7 minutes ago, Goalie said:

But going into the 4th it was 17 13 argos 

exactly.  who gives a **** how many passing yards Collaros had?  We've won plenty of games we had no business winning.

[kelownabomberfan]

8 hours ago, GCn20 said:

I mean we are sitting here grousing about another blown Grey Cup appearance, but just imagine how it is to be a Rider fan. 

Or to be the Argo fan....yes I said singular...

[Mark H.]

3 hours ago, Booch said:

even if we just use Ford and Kramdi.....and the 6 on offence....and the nationalized American where ever...we dont even need a Canadian DT except for Lawson for roration...or meet ratio on a play per pla basis....fix and formukate your roster to do so...other teams seem to have no problem rostering 7...8 solid dlineman with only 1 or 2 needing to be a Canadian

That could work. But they'll need to seriously consider another American on the OL.

[JohnnyAbonny]

Here’s something positive.. I’m positive they can burn those horrible blue pants now. 

[CrazyCanuck89]

19 hours ago, 17to85 said:

They tried to go to Ford, it didn't do much for them. He's a long way out from being a starting qb.

It actually did alot, they won games.  Even the Elk's defense played better, when Ford was in.

[CrazyCanuck89]

14 hours ago, wbbfan said:

I dont think that happens any time soon. I think we got a couple years. Plus if buck leaves it gives him the opportunity to become ast hc in a year or two. I fully believe he will continue to hone his craft as a dc and not rush. 
 Hubert dropped off hard for several games before getting parked on the pr. He looked to hit the wall to me. I was surprised he didn’t get a shot to come off though. 

It is surprising he didn't get another shot.  He was good a setting the edge and keeping contain.

[wbbfan]

13 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

Here’s something positive.. I’m positive they can burn those horrible blue pants now. 

Right? I want a 100% old school throw back for alts, no more racing stripe shoulders, and the regular line up of tops n pants. 

[kelownabomberfan]

13 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

Here’s something positive.. I’m positive they can burn those horrible blue pants now. 

yes when I came through the door to look out on the field I was simultaneously exalted that they were wearing Blue and sickened at those horrible blue pants.  Burn them.  Never to return to them.

[JohnnyAbonny]

57 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

yes when I came through the door to look out on the field I was simultaneously exalted that they were wearing Blue and sickened at those horrible blue pants.  Burn them.  Never to return to them.

 They can throw those crappy hockey jerseys in the burn pile as well. 

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

Right? I want a 100% old school throw back for alts, no more racing stripe shoulders, and the regular line up of tops n pants. 

100%. Bring back the football W on the sleeves too

Edited Tuesday at 05:48 PM by JohnnyAbonny

[johnzo]

Hell yeah bring back the football W.

I wouldn't be mind seeing a Khari-era retro at some point.

Those are definitely my favorite outfits of the navy era.  Love that chonky nameplate font.

[Doublezero]

For the 3rd uni, I'd like to see the 1961 helmet with just numbers and the "Lightning Bolt" https://www.helmethistory.com/winnipeg.html

 

[wbbfan]

38 minutes ago, johnzo said:

Hell yeah bring back the football W.

I wouldn't be mind seeing a Khari-era retro at some point.

Those are definitely my favorite outfits of the navy era.  Love that chonky nameplate font.

Totally. Really wanna see the khari eras. I’d like to see a simple clean 30s style as well. Simple blue, gold pants, no white no stripes etc. 

26 minutes ago, Doublezero said:

For the 3rd uni, I'd like to see the 1961 helmet with just numbers and the "Lightning Bolt" https://www.helmethistory.com/winnipeg.html

 

give me all of that logo love it.