All things considered...

[Bigblue204]

15 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Sure but when I hear the word legend, Dinwiddie's name does not come to mind (maybe in time).

But hey to each their own.

It really should...solid regular seasons mixed with an all time one. 2 grey cups in 3 years. That's pretty solid imo.

[wbbfan]

29 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

It really should...solid regular seasons mixed with an all time one. 2 grey cups in 3 years. That's pretty solid imo.

I don’t think he’s a legend, but he’s on his way. He’s a damned good coach. Top tier currently for sure. 

[17to85]

Dinwiddie is a good coach but he's also got a good personel department going for him. 

[Booch]

Just now, 17to85 said:

Dinwiddie is a good coach but he's also got a good personel department going for him. 

or maybe he uses his personnel to it's best potential to the team...and success.....we have a damn good dept too.....but we dont use the people brought in to it's best....thats the key

[17to85]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

or maybe he uses his personnel to it's best potential to the team...and success.....we have a damn good dept too.....but we dont use the people brought in to it's best....thats the key

I wasn't talking about us, only Toronto.  Not everything needs to go back to Oshea. 

Fact is Toronto has a good system in place for finding players. Makes Dinwiddies job easier.

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

or maybe he uses his personnel to it's best potential to the team...and success.....we have a damn good dept too.....but we dont use the people brought in to it's best....thats the key

I think we're giving the personnel side a little too much credit of late.  Who have we brought in the past couple years that was a big miss?  All the guys we cut fade into the mist.

The talent level of the past couple camps has been pretty poor.  Can we not bring anyone in who is a threat to the QB off the snap?  Even watching the guys this year in the most unstructured format of preseason there's no one in camp who can fire off and cause problems.  The only guys we found are 300 pounds.  Where's the guy who is a threat when he has the ball?

We do really good at the draft and we've been doing pretty good at identifying guys off other teams of late.  The US side is severely lacking basically since 2021.  Our depth has been garbage.

[White Out]

The further I get away from the game, and the more into the offseason we get, I find myself getting more and more angry at O'Shea, our coaching staff, and our veterans. Changes need to be made. If this team runs it back and, God forbid, lose the fourth cup in a row at home, I don't know how I'll be able to watch the CFL again.

[SpeedFlex27]

On 2024-11-21 at 10:49 AM, JuranBoldenRules said:

I think we're giving the personnel side a little too much credit of late.  Who have we brought in the past couple years that was a big miss?  All the guys we cut fade into the mist.

The talent level of the past couple camps has been pretty poor.  Can we not bring anyone in who is a threat to the QB off the snap?  Even watching the guys this year in the most unstructured format of preseason there's no one in camp who can fire off and cause problems.  The only guys we found are 300 pounds.  Where's the guy who is a threat when he has the ball?

We do really good at the draft and we've been doing pretty good at identifying guys off other teams of late.  The US side is severely lacking basically since 2021.  Our depth has been garbage.

This is O'Shea's team. The buck stops with him. He makes the personnel decisions. How many other teams start 10 or 11 Canadians? 

[Goalie]

9 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

This is O'Shea's team. The buck stops with him. He makes the personnel decisions. How many other teams start 10 or 11 Canadians? 

Bc did. 

[SpeedFlex27]

1 hour ago, Goalie said:

Bc did. 

Toronto who didn't play 10 or 11 Canadians won the Grey Cup by fielding the best team they possibly could by playing 7 Canadians. We didn't.  Trying so hard... not.... to.... mention... Jake... Thomas. 

[Booch]

1 hour ago, Goalie said:

Bc did. 

And how did they do?

 

[Goalie]

2 hours ago, Booch said:

And how did they do?

 

Wasn’t the question really. Other teams started the same or more as we did. 

Edited December 6 by Goalie

[Goalie]

10 Canadian starters: Dobson, Kolankowski, Neufeld, Oliveira, Demski, Wolitarski, Thomas, Lawson, Kramdi & Ford.

You can make the argument Jake shouldn’t be starting. Everyone else tho so really 9 starting calibre Canadians. Ppl can dislike certain guys but outside of Jake they all are starters. 

[Booch]

10 hours ago, Goalie said:

10 Canadian starters: Dobson, Kolankowski, Neufeld, Oliveira, Demski, Wolitarski, Thomas, Lawson, Kramdi & Ford.

You can make the argument Jake shouldn’t be starting. Everyone else tho so really 9 starting calibre Canadians. Ppl can dislike certain guys but outside of Jake they all are starters. 

thing is...you can start 2 other guys who are better than the Canadians...and if you cant find any...theres a big problem in your scouting and recruiting

 

[JuranBoldenRules]

15 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

This is O'Shea's team. The buck stops with him. He makes the personnel decisions. How many other teams start 10 or 11 Canadians? 

Same amount of Americans and Canadians on the roster.

Who is an American guy they are holding back?

[Booch]

2 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Same amount of Americans and Canadians on the roster.

Who is an American guy they are holding back?

any dlineman not named Schmeckle/Thomas for one....and really...Kramdi played well...but is more effective in the box...not so much in open space or in coverage...could easily have used Griffin...Cole there fulltime and had Kramdi as a super sub....rotating freely as we had Ford at corner.

[SpeedFlex27]

3 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Same amount of Americans and Canadians on the roster.

Who is an American guy they are holding back?

You can't tell me Schmeckel & Thomas are better than any American options that they have. Then there's Kolankowski at Center....

Edited December 6 by SpeedFlex27

[johnzo]

On 2024-11-20 at 5:48 AM, JohnnyAbonny said:

Know what, 

MOS = Dave Ritchie

Dinwiddie = Cal Murphy

Dinwiddie right now is Mike Riley.  Young HC with two unlikely Grey Cups in three years.

[Booch]

Mike Reily was a good coach...smart....even keeled but also no none sense and ran the ship as should be...perform...or sit...age out....youth will jump over u.....and players loved him

[bluto]

Ryan Dinwiddie is 1 or 2 seasons from being the undisputed greatest Head Coach in Toronto Argonauts history. You could even make the argument now, but adding another 20ish wins basically makes it a moot point.

He's only been here 4 years.

Edited Thursday at 09:45 PM by bluto

[17to85]

It that really a high bar though?

[HardCoreBlue]

1 hour ago, bluto said:

Ryan Dinwiddie is 1 or 2 seasons from being the undisputed greatest Head Coach in Toronto Argonauts history. You could even make the argument now, but adding another 20ish wins basically makes it a moot point.

He's only been here 4 years.

I will make an even better argument.

(pause for effect)

Argos suck, will continue to suck and will always suck, not from the Grey Cup as you suggested, but from things that aren't aesthetically pleasing nor smell well.

Amen.

Happy Holidays!

Edited Thursday at 11:18 PM by HardCoreBlue

[HardCoreBlue]

On 2024-11-21 at 11:28 AM, White Out said:

The further I get away from the game, and the more into the offseason we get, I find myself getting more and more angry at O'Shea, our coaching staff, and our veterans. Changes need to be made. If this team runs it back and, God forbid, lose the fourth cup in a row at home, I don't know how I'll be able to watch the CFL again.

If that happens, the true mettle of being a 100% lifelong hardcore Winnipeg Blue Bomber fan will be tested but won't be broken.

Always gotta cheer for the team and the league no matter what.

[Noeller]

50 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I will make an even better argument.

(pause for effect)

Argos suck, will continue to suck and will always suck, not from the Grey Cup as you suggested, but from things that aren't aesthetically pleasing nor smell well.

Amen.

Happy Holidays!

Holy ****! Hallelujah! ....where's the Tylenol?!?

[johnzo]

On 2024-11-21 at 10:28 AM, White Out said:

 If this team runs it back and, God forbid, lose the fourth cup in a row at home, I don't know how I'll be able to watch the CFL again.

dude, if I remember right, you ragequit the game broadcast and thread during the @Montreal regular season finale.  You cursed the 2024 team as surefire semifinal losers.

Maybe it was you who provoked the shenanigans of the wind god? The gods hate a false prophet.

On 2024-12-12 at 3:17 PM, HardCoreBlue said:

If that happens, the true mettle of being a 100% lifelong hardcore Winnipeg Blue Bomber fan will be tested but won't be broken.

Always gotta cheer for the team and the league no matter what.

I made it thru 1987, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2009, 2010, and 2013.  I saw Tom Clements put up three points in 60 minutes at a home Western Final. I've eaten playoff 65-burgers, I've watched internally handled circuses and kneeldown shitshows and Jason Boltus.  I was there when Travis Lulay painted Swaggerville orange and when Marcus Crandell won his Grey Cup MOP award.  I tuned in for every game of the almost-good-enough Lapo squad that lost ten games by a combined thirty points.  We were a potential 14-4 team that played down to 4-14 that year.

I'm pretty sure I'm a lifer at this point too.

Edited Monday at 05:40 PM by johnzo