All things considered...

[bluto]

14 hours ago, 17to85 said:

It that really a high bar though?

Demean, denigrate and disparage all you like. But being among the greatest head coaches in the history of the most successful and storied Canadian football team after a mere 4 years at the helm is no mean feat. If we win 8 games next year, he'll be tied with Leo Cahill for 3rd most wins.

 

[17to85]

Toronto suck

[bluto]

50 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Toronto suck from the Grey Cup.

 

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, bluto said:

Demean, denigrate and disparage all you like. But being among the greatest head coaches in the history of the most successful and storied Canadian football team after a mere 4 years at the helm is no mean feat. If we win 8 games next year, he'll be tied with Leo Cahill for 3rd most wins.

 

Some teams have a history that includes long stretches of great coaching. Especially the buono teams. 
 The Argos and bombers are not those teams. We’ve both succeeding with fleeting runs of truly top level coaching. 
 Mos and dinwiddie are quickly rising in the ranks of all time coaches when it comes to wins and gcs. And dinwiddie is a brilliant tactician. Neither guy has entered the level of buono, the don, etc. 

It’s like Emmitt smith becoming the all time rushing leader. He isn’t a top 5 back of all time or in that tier. He is for forever in the shadow of Guys like Payton, sanders and brown. 

[bluto]

14 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Some teams have a history that includes long stretches of great coaching. Especially the buono teams. 
 The Argos and bombers are not those teams. We’ve both succeeding with fleeting runs of truly top level coaching. 
 Mos and dinwiddie are quickly rising in the ranks of all time coaches when it comes to wins and gcs. And dinwiddie is a brilliant tactician. Neither guy has entered the level of buono, the don, etc. 

It’s like Emmitt smith becoming the all time rushing leader. He isn’t a top 5 back of all time or in that tier. He is for forever in the shadow of Guys like Payton, sanders and brown. 

The Don is a legend around here. And Coach Din (46) is going to pass him (49) and likely Cahill (54) this coming season. Then he only has Pinball (67) and Obie (89). And Dinwiddie has the highest win percentage of them and if he gets one more cup here he'll pass every one of our post WW2 coaches.

Remarkable stuff.

 

I'd do the same lookup for O'Shea (and Mass, who I have been very impressed with), but the Wiki for the Bombers coaches only says it goes to the end of the 2022 season. One of you guys should go edit it.

EDIT: Pretty sure that O'Shea owns most of your HC records now?

Edited Friday at 03:14 PM by bluto

[HardCoreBlue]

1 hour ago, bluto said:

Demean, denigrate and disparage all you like. But being among the greatest head coaches in the history of the most successful and storied Canadian football team after a mere 4 years at the helm is no mean feat. If we win 8 games next year, he'll be tied with Leo Cahill for 3rd most wins.

 

For some of us, don't care.

Welcome to a Winnipeg Blue Bomber site.

Enjoy your stay.

[17to85]

1 hour ago, bluto said:

 

Toronto sucks all the time. 

[HardCoreBlue]

2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Toronto sucks all the time. 

I would add 'in general' right after the word Toronto. 🙂

[Fatty Liver]

5 hours ago, bluto said:

Demean, denigrate and disparage all you like. But being among the greatest head coaches in the history of the most successful and storied Canadian football team after a mere 4 years at the helm is no mean feat. If we win 8 games next year, he'll be tied with Leo Cahill for 3rd most wins.

 

Watched a podcast with Dinwiddie last year, seemed to indicate he has a pretty high interest in coaching in the US, college or pro.  Like Mike Riley, still being young he might be an attractive option to take over a college program and grow from there.  Unless he's developed a fond attachment to living in Toronto, he could be long-gone within a season or two.  

[bluto]

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Toronto sucks all the time, from the Grey Cup.

 

[17to85]

https://youtu.be/iRjurRdep_Q?si=FWbHyaQKnsxRrsdq

[SpeedFlex27]

19 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

https://youtu.be/iRjurRdep_Q?si=FWbHyaQKnsxRrsdq

When you arrive at the outskirts of Edmonton from any direction.

[pw13]

On 2024-12-05 at 8:38 PM, SpeedFlex27 said:

Toronto who didn't play 10 or 11 Canadians won the Grey Cup by fielding the best team they possibly could by playing 7 Canadians. We didn't.  Trying so hard... not.... to.... mention... Jake... Thomas. 

For the record, in the Grey Cup Toronto started nine NATs (4 o-line, 2 receivers, DE-LB-S) and used one other (Mital) on a lot offensive snaps. 

 

 

[SpeedFlex27]

On 2024-12-14 at 2:04 PM, pw13 said:

For the record, in the Grey Cup Toronto started nine NATs (4 o-line, 2 receivers, DE-LB-S) and used one other (Mital) on a lot offensive snaps. 

 

 

i really don't care about other teams. I care about the Bombers. Am I supposed to be impressed by this? That Dinwiddie followed O'Shea's roster decisions by playing more Canadians than he could have? Not really. I didn't see a Canadian starter on the Argos even remotely close to the ineffectiveness of Jake Thomas. The Argos roster of Canadians were better than ours. It gave them flexibility. Our starting Canadians (in certain positions) hurt us. 

[Booch]

nothing wrong with starting an extra Canadian or using in heavy rotation....if they are good enough, AND...thats a big and...the best option...around here....it's not even a consideration with Osh.....and believe it of you want...or dont...but it hurts us and one could just imagine the even better success we could have had