Most irksome moment of GC 2024- Why did they Stray from Brady?

[JohnnyAbonny]

2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

I think winning made mos ultra conservative, and that winning 2 in a row took away the hunger to win. The old go 1-0 this week became less about being present and focused on the task at hand, and more about wins covering up the stink of coasting/bad execution/ bad game plans. 
I think the mood is more not wanting to lose than wanting to win. Wanting to enjoy prep rather than being tireless. 
 They built it, they achieved the goal twice. It feels like they are very complacent to maintain it rather than tear it up and rework it every year to make it better. You have to kill good to become great. And when you stop improving you quickly get worse in sports. There is no static. It’s growth or death. 
 

I also don’t think that is equal across the mafia. No chance does wade have that. Or Jy imo. Walter’s has some, mos has a lot, buck has nothing else. 

 

Agree with this. I’m trying to choose my words carefully as I don’t want to oversimplify it, but it seems like the past 3 years, the organization has made just getting to the cup an achievement award week/ fun road trip of sorts. I got the impression from interviews that it was more about “soaking it in”  and “getting to spend another week with the guys” than preparing to play as they would during the regular season. 
 

[Tracker]

6 hours ago, wbbfan said:

I really think we have a chance to see change on the offence. Buck coming down to the side line, the clear frustration zach had many times this and last year, seeing mos make offensive calls at times, I think we will pull the trigger. I just can’t see them running it back with buck and zach. I’ve been fooled before but the signs are strong. 

We can only hope. Buck seems to be reasonably intelligent and as a former QB. he ought to be able to recognize what the opposing defence is doing and figure out how to counter it.

[Bigblue204]

2 hours ago, greenrider55 said:

I think Buck lands in BC, if the Campbell rumours are true. A bit of smoke there for certain.

JY is clearly an intelligent DC, but only has access to what MOS gives him, I can’t imagine JY is in favour of starting Kyrie Wilson over Cole. Could also see JY being the guy that wants to get Adams on the roster.

Kyrie was surprisingly fine I thought. We he's on, he's one of the best LBs in the league. He had that one moment where he slipped up...but in the end he's teammates bailed him out. 

Edited November 20 by Bigblue204

[captaincanuck12]

Apologies if this has been posted already, but Brady didn't even know why he got lack of touches:

 

[Fatty Liver]

25 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Kyrie was surprisingly fine I thought. We he's on, he's one of the best LBs in the league. He had that one moment where he slipped up...but in the end he's teammates bailed him out. 

Love Kyrie, because of injuries he's never received the accolades he's deserved, probably on the down slope now but happy to see him back if he's willing to share his position with a younger WIL and help out whenever he can.  Same sentiment for BA, neither were ever big salary guys.

[Booch]

2 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

Agree with this. I’m trying to choose my words carefully as I don’t want to oversimplify it, but it seems like the past 3 years, the organization has made just getting to the cup an achievement award week/ fun road trip of sorts. I got the impression from interviews that it was more about “soaking it in”  and “getting to spend another week with the guys” than preparing to play as they would during the regular season. 
 

it has become too comfortable and leisure land here....grit and grind guys were not retained, or replaced...well not enough of the right ones....and well we got soft and weak

43 minutes ago, captaincanuck12 said:

Apologies if this has been posted already, but Brady didn't even know why he got lack of touches:

 

I'd be pissed an ys I would speak up about it....answers need to be heard/explained....if coaches even have a valid one....and trust me....he is not the only player upset...miffed...mad...call it what you want

I'd like to see a reporter here....grow a set and invite the coach/coaches for a sit do a fireside chat....with the questions and observations many have had....and have them answer them....and or justify things....that be very very interesting...and telling....

[17to85]

On the flip side, a team that has been in 5 straight Grey cups obviously something is working well. 

Some of y'all are way too worked up. So.e changes need to happen but it's not as bad as all that.

[Noeller]

There are some bottom lips dragging on the ground and a bit of petulant feet stomping. Feels like some are going to be hauled out of here surfboard style in the middle of a tantrum and head home for nap time...

[Super Duper Negatron]

Can I just say, if you don't want to see fans venting about a Grey Cup loss and speculating on what went wrong, maybe just don't come to the boards two days after the game. 

[wbbfan]

14 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Can I just say, if you don't want to see fans venting about a Grey Cup loss and speculating on what went wrong, maybe just don't come to the boards two days after the game. 

Nailed it. Tbh this isn’t nearly as worked up as the previous Two cups. 

[17to85]

48 minutes ago, Noeller said:

There are some bottom lips dragging on the ground and a bit of petulant feet stomping. Feels like some are going to be hauled out of here surfboard style in the middle of a tantrum and head home for nap time...

They're just cranky because they don't have their favourite sippy cup.

[Booch]

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

Nailed it. Tbh this isn’t nearly as worked up as the previous Two cups. 

nope...I think deep down many expected this....I know I did....was pretty vocal about it

But it's a blessing....cause if we woulda fluked it out despite everything....we would be going status quo....running back with prob 80 to 90 percent of the dead weight....no change in how we do anything...Osh will get accolades and applause and more insulation from accountability....and we will be just that much further behind in transition and continuity.....and so much closer to an epic fall from grace....missing the playoffs and going 6 and 12 or something like that

[TBURGESS]

It's still going to be status quo tho. 

[Booch]

28 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

It's still going to be status quo tho. 

sadly....I think same...until there a change at the top....or upper management steps in and says something...we gonna get the same ol same ol

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, TBURGESS said:

It's still going to be status quo tho. 

To an extent, similar to how this year was. How much remains we will see. I think guys like biggie and Thomas are the canaries in the mine for how much the status quo remains the same. 
 

 

[Bigblue204]

I desperately want Bighill to retire and become a coach. I don't want him on any other team (not because of his play sadly, but he's been absolutely awesome in the community in WPG. Especially around youth sports) and I don't want him playing on the bombers. Hopefully he realizes the $$ just isn't there and that coaching is his best way to stay around the sport.

[wbbfan]

5 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

I desperately want Bighill to retire and become a coach. I don't want him on any other team (not because of his play sadly, but he's been absolutely awesome in the community in WPG. Especially around youth sports) and I don't want him playing on the bombers. Hopefully he realizes the $$ just isn't there and that coaching is his best way to stay around the sport.

Yup. My hope is he takes a coaching player role that doesn’t dress like the goat did his final season. He’s about as useful at lber as wade miller these days. 

[bigg jay]

What worries me about Biggie is that his rehab is supposed to take him to like September so they may look at the cap savings by having him on the injured list most of the season and think it's a good deal for the club. 

[Booch]

16 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

What worries me about Biggie is that his rehab is supposed to take him to like September so they may look at the cap savings by having him on the injured list most of the season and think it's a good deal for the club. 

That would be ideal...let him do waht Miller did as a un-official coach to transition to it full-time in 2026.....and 6 game him all yr, and late season if we need an injury replacement here and there...or roster allows for him to be a DA for teams and situational reps....without hand-cuffing us elsewhere....then have at er....but his days as the defacto MLB are in the rear view

Edited November 20 by Booch

[bigg jay]

7 minutes ago, Booch said:

That would be ideal...let him do waht Miller did as a un-official coach to transition to it full-time in 2026.....and 6 game him all yr, and late season if we need an injury replacement here and there...or roster allows for him to be a DA for teams and situational reps....without hand-cuffing us elsewhere....then have at er....but his days as the defacto MLB are in the rear view

I'd just be worried they will just hand him back the MLB spot when he's healthy.  Having him as a plan B in case of an injury is fine, I just don't want him to be plan A once he's ready to go again.

[Booch]

1 hour ago, bigg jay said:

I'd just be worried they will just hand him back the MLB spot when he's healthy.  Having him as a plan B in case of an injury is fine, I just don't want him to be plan A once he's ready to go again.

Thats where Walter's and Miller....His bosses' need to say....We are going with youth/better....but we will carrying him for mentorship and or injury depth....if we are in dire need.....and if you aren't in agreement....we will not re-sign him....no more tail wagging the dog

[SpeedFlex27]

3 hours ago, Booch said:

sadly....I think same...until there a change at the top....or upper management steps in and says something...we gonna get the same ol same ol

Rumours on X today that Goveia & McManus both leaving for Hamilton with McManus GM & Goveia as Asst GM doing what he was doing here.

We can survive as an organization losing Buck to the Lions as HC. But can we survive losing McManus, Goveia & Pierce all together at once?

[Fatty Liver]

1 hour ago, bigg jay said:

I'd just be worried they will just hand him back the MLB spot when he's healthy.  Having him as a plan B in case of an injury is fine, I just don't want him to be plan A once he's ready to go again.

Tony Jones is a FA, they'll likely sign him for 2 years at a little over $100k, Kyrie range, Biggie can give it another go, but they'll have Jones locked in and loaded ready to go if he falters.

[wbbfan]

9 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Tony Jones is a FA, they'll likely sign him for 2 years at a little over $100k, Kyrie range, Biggie can give it another go, but they'll have Jones locked in and loaded ready to go if he falters.

I wouldn’t be soo fast with jones. Unless they think his range on pass pro can be improved he’s really a 1 down backer. 

[bigg jay]

9 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Tony Jones is a FA, they'll likely sign him for 2 years at a little over $100k, Kyrie range, Biggie can give it another go, but they'll have Jones locked in and loaded ready to go if he falters.

Jones had some good games in the season but didn't have a great GC from what I saw so I hope they have a full open competition or spend some cash on good FA (not sure who'd be available though).