2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread

[blue85gold]

14 minutes ago, Noeller said:

According to our guy @holoman

 

 

Is this just a guess from holoman or does he have the inside track on something?

[Noeller]

Walters did also say last week during his presser that th bombers had reached out to BC for (and received) permission to talk to Macsymic in the case that Buck was going to leave.....

[Nolby]

4 minutes ago, blue85gold said:

Is this just a guess from holoman or does he have the inside track on something?

Ive never heard of this man but I do like that Ive never heard of this man. He may bring loads of new ideas and not some recycled coach.

[blue85gold]

3 minutes ago, Nolby said:

Ive never heard of this man but I do like that Ive never heard of this man. He may bring loads of new ideas and not some recycled coach.

He's been here for 7 years so maybe he would have new ideas or maybe not.

We definitely need some new ideas though!

[wbbfan]

43 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Buck to BC as per Farhan...

 

 

Happy to hear it, wish him well. 
 

9 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Do any of our amateur coaches on here know much about Bourgoin and what he would bring to the table as OC?

Not a big surprise, he is a really good positional coach. all he’s done every year in both roles here is succeed. 
 Personally I hope they give Costello an ast co or run game co type promo as well. Hes the one I least want to lose. 
 

The adjustment to oc especially at a high level is one of the hardest though. I’ll be interested to hear him talk and see what kind of scheme he will run. 
 

 Personally I would’ve gone with fresh blood. But I do like bourgoin. He does have plenty of potential. And he was the rb coach during our heaviest run years. 
 
Who we bring in as qb coach will be very interesting as well. If we bring in a guy with oc experience who can help guide Bourgoin that will be huge. Khari, Jackson, who ever. 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Nolby said:

Ive never heard of this man but I do like that Ive never heard of this man. He may bring loads of new ideas and not some recycled coach.

He was our rb coach during the Harris era, and switched to wr coach in 21. 

[bustamente]

Hiring from within seems to fit the Bombers hierarchy, familiarity is good sometimes

[Mike]

50 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Good: Congrats to Buck, and we can finally move on.

Bad: In house promotion? Meeeeeeeehhhhhhhh.

I tend to side with this

[Booch]

Good for Buck....He needs the chance to give it a whirl....Maybe with just managuing the game day...and not the play calling will be right up his alley now, as he seemed to falter a lot with in game adapting....let his CoOrds do that 

Same with Killam....not sure why many here...who really dont know much about the guy other than yip yappin here are so negatives,,,,guys a quality coach, and has gotten kudos by many current and former players a well....sucking in Cgy isn't a reflection on any of the assistants there...it falls right on HC and GM....OH...THEY THE SAME DUDE....imagine that

AS for us....if we go this purported internal promotion thats literally taking a step back....same ol same ol...status quo....happy with just maintaining...I hate that is even being looked at....but typical and not shocking with the way the team and how certain aspects are ran....sadly

The loss of Buck tho will be the best thing for Strev if he is retained...and from my understanding will be. 

We have the opportunity to infuse some fresh new blood/ideas/philosophies....dont drop the ball on that

Edited December 3 by Booch

[WinnipegGordo]

My vote is for Jackson. I was impressed with the Elks run game.

I think he could bring some fresh ideas to Winnipeg's offence.

[bigg jay]

Hiring from within would be on-brand and would not be my first choice.  We need new blood and the fact that they got permission from BC ahead of time for Macsymic gives me hope that they feel the same way.

[Captain Blue]

It should be noted that when hiring anyone for a promotion it's extremely hard to predict how they'll do. I wouldn't be overly excited with an internal promotion but can see why they'd do it. 

[greenrider55]

Any chance Costello gets the OC gig? I think he’ll have a good shot.

[17to85]

I don't know that we should be immediately unhappy with an internal hire. None of us really know how good or bad an internal hire would be. I just hope they do some sort of search.

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

Good for Buck....He needs the chance to give it a whirl....Maybe with just managuing the game day...and not the play calling will be right up his alley now, as he seemed to falter a lot with in game adapting....let his CoOrds do that 

Same with Killam....not sure why many here...who really dont know much about the guy other than yip yappin here are so negatives,,,,guys a quality coach, and has gotten kudos by many current and former players a well....sucking in Cgy isn't a reflection on any of the assistants there...it falls right on HC and GM....OH...THEY THE SAME DUDE....imagine that

AS for us....if we go this purported internal promotion thats literally taking a step back....same ol same ol...status quo....happy with just maintaining...I hate that is even being looked at....but typical and not shocking with the way the team and how certain aspects are ran....sadly

The loss of Buck tho will be the best thing for Strev if he is retained...and from my understanding will be. 

We have the opportunity to infuse some fresh new blood/ideas/philosophies....dont drop the ball on that

It’ll be interesting to see who buck gets to work his staff. Will he clean house or bring back most of the bc guys. 
 

will he go after Bourgoin if we don’t promote to oc? Or Costello? That’s my primary concern. 
 I wonder if he digs up nichols or some one similar to ast. 
 If he’s smart he will insulate himself with great coaches and focus on being a hc not  be hc/oc/qb coach 

I hadn’t thought about the strevy package but that is great news 

3 minutes ago, greenrider55 said:

Any chance Costello gets the OC gig? I think he’ll have a good shot.

Hope he gets a bump any way. If we got Bourgoin as oc, bump Costello to run game co, and bring in a qb coach with oc experience that’s the best case for us imo with internal promos. 
 Bringing in an experienced oc, then bumping bourgoins to qb coach and Marty to running game coach would be the best of all worlds. 

[Piggy 1]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

Good for Buck....He needs the chance to give it a whirl....Maybe with just managuing the game day...and not the play calling will be right up his alley now, as he seemed to falter a lot with in game adapting....let his CoOrds do that 

Same with Killam....not sure why many here...who really dont know much about the guy other than yip yappin here are so negatives,,,,guys a quality coach, and has gotten kudos by many current and former players a well....sucking in Cgy isn't a reflection on any of the assistants there...it falls right on HC and GM....OH...THEY THE SAME DUDE....imagine that

AS for us....if we go this purported internal promotion thats literally taking a step back....same ol same ol...status quo....happy with just maintaining...I hate that is even being looked at....but typical and not shocking with the way the team and how certain aspects are ran....sadly

The loss of Buck tho will be the best thing for Strev if he is retained...and from my understanding will be. 

We have the opportunity to infuse some fresh new blood/ideas/philosophies....dont drop the ball on that

Whats wrong with Khari for OC??

[wbbfan]

3 minutes ago, Piggy 1 said:

Whats wrong with Khari for OC??

My concern would be he runs a lot of rpo’s, his offences tend to chuck at absurd rate and isn’t the best at maintaining the run. Which all plays into zachs weaknesses. 
 I think khari as qb coach or assistant to another oc is a great asset though. I just think you need to support him to keep from devolving into what we saw in bc and mtl. 

[Goalie]

7 minutes ago, Piggy 1 said:

Whats wrong with Khari for OC??

Probably his track record his past couple years in the league. Seems like he doesn’t really last anywhere. 

Edited December 4 by Goalie

[Booch]

39 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

It’ll be interesting to see who buck gets to work his staff. Will he clean house or bring back most of the bc guys. 
 

will he go after Bourgoin if we don’t promote to oc? Or Costello? That’s my primary concern. 
 I wonder if he digs up nichols or some one similar to ast. 
 If he’s smart he will insulate himself with great coaches and focus on being a hc not  be hc/oc/qb coach 

I hadn’t thought about the strevy package but that is great news 

Hope he gets a bump any way. If we got Bourgoin as oc, bump Costello to run game co, and bring in a qb coach with oc experience that’s the best case for us imo with internal promos. 
 Bringing in an experienced oc, then bumping bourgoins to qb coach and Marty to running game coach would be the best of all worlds. 

Costello would be the guy I wouldn't wanna lose.....The other offensive assistants easily replaceable and interchangeable....If need be I could see us adding a title to Costello like you mentioned....especially if we go with a new external hire for O.C

And yeah with both Buck and Killam they need to have top rate coordinators....well really any HC should as thats what makes a great HC....His underlings....much like an Engineering office is only as good as it's engineering technologists and field guys......they do all the work and the P.Eng just stamps it 

I do hope we bring in new blood and ideas...we have gotten stale fast....and with new coaching bloodlines a lot of times comes ne blood with players following

 

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

45 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

I don't know that we should be immediately unhappy with an internal hire. None of us really know how good or bad an internal hire would be. I just hope they do some sort of search.

Sure. 

 

My issue? Rolling the dice with a rookie OC in a GC hosting year... I want all my hires this year to be *******  Sterling and Diamond hires.

 

 

[Booch]

Just now, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

Sure. 

 

My issue? Rolling the dice with a rookie OC in a GC hosting year... I want all my hires this year to be *******  Sterling and Diamond hires.

 

 

as to why I can see Lapo back...just for that reason....and he knows basically 80% of the players here already as well....and all the coaches....and we know Smuggy loves his old continuity vibe

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

4 minutes ago, Booch said:

 Smuggy loves his old continuity vibe

WhoTF is Smuggy?

[Fatty Liver]

3 hours ago, Noeller said:

Walters did also say last week during his presser that th bombers had reached out to BC for (and received) permission to talk to Macsymic in the case that Buck was going to leave.....

Dunk says Macsymic will be the Elks new OC, I don't know why there's no talk he'll be interviewing in Wpg. but maybe he declined the offer to interview.

[Noeller]

1 minute ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

WhoTF is Smuggy?

Don't get him started... He's already tripping over his bottom lip from all th pouting. Ha ha.

[wbbfan]

9 minutes ago, Booch said:

Costello would be the guy I wouldn't wanna lose.....The other offensive assistants easily replaceable and interchangeable....If need be I could see us adding a title to Costello like you mentioned....especially if we go with a new external hire for O.C

And yeah with both Buck and Killam they need to have top rate coordinators....well really any HC should as thats what makes a great HC....His underlings....much like an Engineering office is only as good as it's engineering technologists and field guys......they do all the work and the P.Eng just stamps it 

I do hope we bring in new blood and ideas...we have gotten stale fast....and with new coaching bloodlines a lot of times comes ne blood with players following

 

Costello is an A++ ast. For my money, ol coach is the hardest positional coach to find and develop too. We had the great foresight to have Costello work under bob wylie so we had the next man up. That almost never happens. 
 Bourgoin a strong B+ and could be even better. He’s even more of a disciple of lapo than buck. They go back to the 90s. A big part of his value is he can do multiple jobs and excel at it. Pass game co, coach RBs WRs more than one job at a time too. 
 

 

[Booch]

9 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

WhoTF is Smuggy?

guess

7 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Don't get him started... He's already tripping over his bottom lip from all th pouting. Ha ha.

pouting?...about?

If worried about the team just coasting in neutral and totally avoiding switching gears in any way is pouting....so be it....but thats exactly how teams fall off the top of their perch.....we have been kicked off the top of the mountain 3 times now...and if not for a lucky gust of wind would have been pushed off the top rung of the West too....we in no shape to be just standing pat and comfortable on past success...which is now way off in the distance whether anyone wants to believe it or not....that team and aura is loooooong gone and dead....as other teams load up....change....tweak...adapt...and get better