Booch Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 On 2025-01-31 at 8:32 PM, 17to85 said: No one thinks he's the bees knees... just that he's better than you give him credit for. Expand I give him credit for being adequate....nid teir maybe.....I not happy with adequate for 140k per yr BomberBall. 1
wbbfan Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 On 2025-01-31 at 8:02 PM, Booch said: Not sure why people wondering what Vaughters has left in tank...he'ss only 31 and has limited wear and tear from a few yrs testing the NFL....he gives us off the edge what we have lacked since JJ left and thats power to collpase and good inside technique...can see this really complimenting WJ Garbutt has a well rounded skill set but has to elevate now too...can he...will he get the chance....but he was essentially a rookie last yr learning as he went ans playing a lot that SchmeckThomas combo did none our other dline guys any favours Persons tho is the guy I really keen on....He was a legit NFL prospect for a pass rush specialist, but they wanted him bigger and he balked at that....he's perfect for the CFL tho Linebacker is what I curious about...The recent Jones signing is a biggie....and preferably our jones is the 4th guy...rotates in at various ways and isnt anointed the defactoMLB...as we know we like to do that around here regardless if they are worthy of it...He has some holes in his game and gets exposed for it a lot if he is 90% snap guy. If Kyrie is actually healthy,,,and stays healthy I have no issues with him as a transitional guy this yr while we groom his replacement...Healthy Wilson is top of league in his position Same with Kramdi...I know a lot of you here think he's the bee's knees but he is gawd awful in coverage and open fiield tackling...he's a good situational guy and in and around the box when we slide him up...but at 140k per he should be a divison and league all-star..and he's not...and he wont Griffin or Parker there would be ideal and use Kramdi as super sub like we did with Griffin....Make it a oint to have Kelly take over safety....and find another via draft or free agency to also play there....thats your National spot and allow yur front 7 to be your best and most athletic...You can spell off with a Lawson on the line withh a solid rotation...and With Kramdi ala Griffin... Expand My concern with vaughters is outside of power he’s really marginal athletically. Hes not Jake Thomas slow, but he is slow as hell. If his bull rush fails, he’s basically sol. He’s at that age you wonder when he will lose a step. When that happens, it’s over for him imo. At least on the edge. He could probably be a strong pass rusher from inside for a while after that happens. imo, inside as an imp, he’s behind woods fox and adams, in that adams can develop a lot still. While also being behind Lawson. And the inevitable wasting of the entire game in one spot on Jake Thomas. I don’t expect us to make the best use of vaughters. If he loses any thing on that first step he’s cooked on the edge. On 2025-01-31 at 8:32 PM, 17to85 said: No one thinks he's the bees knees... just that he's better than you give him credit for. Expand He’s tied for the highest paid db on the team, tied for 3rd on the D. In an off season we are looking at losing two starting Canadians in free agency, both of whom are better at their position than Kramdi is, that’s a tough pill to swallow. Kramdi is 70% a contract problem. He did step up last year and if he continues to play at that level it’ll be tenable. It sets a horrible standard for us with the NI and dbs though. It’s a real boat anchor of a deal. BigBlueFanatic, Booch and rebusrankin 2 1
M.O.A.B. Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 On 2025-01-31 at 8:02 PM, Booch said: Griffin or Parker there would be ideal and use Kramdi as super sub like we did with Griffin....Make it a oint to have Kelly take over safety....and find another via draft or free agency to also play there....thats your National spot and allow yur front 7 to be your best and most athletic...You can spell off with a Lawson on the line withh a solid rotation...and With Kramdi ala Griffin... Expand Would love to see Greene (BC) here. Booch 1
do or die Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 On 2025-01-31 at 8:18 PM, Doublezero said: He is the best. Disappointed but not surprised he re-signed with Argos. I remember Janarion single-handedly won a couple of close games for Winnipeg while he was here. A sacrilege that the Bombers let a game-changer like him get away. Expand Well, that was one thing....another is that we replaced him with junk.. Bigblue204, SpeedFlex27, Stickem and 1 other 4
17to85 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 On 2025-01-31 at 9:43 PM, wbbfan said: He’s tied for the highest paid db on the team, tied for 3rd on the D. In an off season we are looking at losing two starting Canadians in free agency, both of whom are better at their position than Kramdi is, that’s a tough pill to swallow. Kramdi is 70% a contract problem. He did step up last year and if he continues to play at that level it’ll be tenable. It sets a horrible standard for us with the NI and dbs though. It’s a real boat anchor of a deal Expand Oh I'm not getting into contract details, just focusing on what he does on the field.
Pete Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 On 2025-01-31 at 9:43 PM, wbbfan said: My concern with vaughters is outside of power he’s really marginal athletically. Hes not Jake Thomas slow, but he is slow as hell. If his bull rush fails, he’s basically sol. He’s at that age you wonder when he will lose a step. When that happens, it’s over for him imo. At least on the edge. He could probably be a strong pass rusher from inside for a while after that happens. imo, inside as an imp, he’s behind woods fox and adams, in that adams can develop a lot still. While also being behind Lawson. And the inevitable wasting of the entire game in one spot on Jake Thomas. I don’t expect us to make the best use of vaughters. If he loses any thing on that first step he’s cooked on the edge. He’s tied for the highest paid db on the team, tied for 3rd on the D. In an off season we are looking at losing two starting Canadians in free agency, both of whom are better at their position than Kramdi is, that’s a tough pill to swallow. Kramdi is 70% a contract problem. He did step up last year and if he continues to play at that level it’ll be tenable. It sets a horrible standard for us with the NI and dbs though. It’s a real boat anchor of a deal. Expand All Kramdl does is make plays, he improved every year. The thing is he doesn't miss that first step. I can't remember hardly any plays ly where a defensive breakdown occurred that you could point at him.As for losing 2 better cdns Ford is better than most in the entire league and saying Dobson is , questionable. Tracker and Noeller 1 1
Mike Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Signed former Hamilton DB Dexter Lawson, too HardCoreBlue, rebusrankin and Noeller 3
wbbfan Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 On 2025-01-31 at 11:00 PM, Pete said: All Kramdl does is make plays, he improved every year. The thing is he doesn't miss that first step. I can't remember hardly any plays ly where a defensive breakdown occurred that you could point at him.As for losing 2 better cdns Ford is better than most in the entire league and saying Dobson is , questionable. Expand That’s not the case. He puts him self into positions to make plays in the run game. Hes 50/50 on finishing them. In the pass game, hes not any kind of play maker. you could look at much of the first 4 ish games last year and see him fail in our scheme several times a game. He did get it sorted after that though. dobson isn’t remotely questionable. He’s head and shoulders better at his position after his first year of starting. He’s gonna get a good offer from 3-4 teams in the league. Kramdi wouldn’t get the same offer from 2. Tracker 1
Stickem Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 On 2025-01-31 at 10:15 PM, do or die said: Well, that was one thing....another is that we replaced him with junk.. Expand IF there is one glaring mistake that Walters has made, regrets, and could wash away in his time here, it has to be letting Grant walk...I don't know what the hell he was thinking when he made that move...I still shake my head when I see Janarion tearing it up on returns.... that part of our game has literally died and I hope we have something in the wings for 25' Piggy 1 1
Booch Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 On 2025-01-31 at 11:52 PM, wbbfan said: That’s not the case. He puts him self into positions to make plays in the run game. Hes 50/50 on finishing them. In the pass game, hes not any kind of play maker. you could look at much of the first 4 ish games last year and see him fail in our scheme several times a game. He did get it sorted after that though. dobson isn’t remotely questionable. He’s head and shoulders better at his position after his first year of starting. He’s gonna get a good offer from 3-4 teams in the league. Kramdi wouldn’t get the same offer from 2. Expand Some people blinded by what Osh claims...he's by far a complete player to be paid what he is and he doesn't just "make plays" He's good in a couple facets..but he's horrible in coverage...he at times out in space looks lost and misses his play and he is not a good in space tackler...he's good crashing down and in the scrum but in space was prob our worst db And that salary and the others tied into the secondary are killing us...his 140 would be better served with Ford and SAM is easily replaced for under 100k Piggy 1 and Colin Unger 2
Pete Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 (edited) On 2025-01-31 at 11:52 PM, wbbfan said: That’s not the case. He puts him self into positions to make plays in the run game. Hes 50/50 on finishing them. In the pass game, hes not any kind of play maker. you could look at much of the first 4 ish games last year and see him fail in our scheme several times a game. He did get it sorted after that though. dobson isn’t remotely questionable. He’s head and shoulders better at his position after his first year of starting. He’s gonna get a good offer from 3-4 teams in the league. Kramdi wouldn’t get the same offer from 2. Expand I guess these are just mirages...Winnipeg Blue Bombers Redha Kramdi 2024 Regular Season Highlights Winnipeg Blue Bombers Redha Kramdi 2023 Regular Season Highlights Im not saying hes an allstar, but hes not as bad as some make out (btw his salary is at 125K , only way he gets higher is by winning awards or allstar selections. Which is reasonable for cdn starter.) Edited February 1 by Pete wbbfan and Tracker 1 1
wbbfan Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 On 2025-02-01 at 3:11 AM, Pete said: I guess these are just mirages...Winnipeg Blue Bombers Redha Kramdi 2024 Regular Season Highlights Winnipeg Blue Bombers Redha Kramdi 2023 Regular Season Highlights Im not saying hes an allstar, but hes not as bad as some make out (btw his salary is at 125K , only way he gets higher is by winning awards or allstar selections. Which is reasonable for cdn starter.) Expand Every player in history has a highlight reel lmao BTW, only 3k of his 140k max salary is based on awards, stats, or games played. So he earned 137k last year, He got 25k in an upfront bonus, 13,800 in housing bonus. On 2025-02-01 at 1:31 AM, Booch said: Some people blinded by what Osh claims...he's by far a complete player to be paid what he is and he doesn't just "make plays" He's good in a couple facets..but he's horrible in coverage...he at times out in space looks lost and misses his play and he is not a good in space tackler...he's good crashing down and in the scrum but in space was prob our worst db And that salary and the others tied into the secondary are killing us...his 140 would be better served with Ford and SAM is easily replaced for under 100k Expand He was able to be solid as the inside wall player on the 4 man side of the match zone concept, with the 2 quickest athletes on our team around him. He's a good role starter, being paid on par with the best db on our team and the best in the league. I challenge any one to find a starting db last year in he cfl with fewer pass knock downs, picks, and forced fumbles. He has a strong knack for coming up into the box and making plays, on his own and on blitzes. He's a dave donaldson clone.
Pete Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 (edited) On 2025-02-01 at 3:43 AM, wbbfan said: Every player in history has a highlight reel lmao BTW, only 3k of his 140k max salary is based on awards, stats, or games played. So he earned 137k last year, He got 25k in an upfront bonus, 13,800 in housing bonus. He was able to be solid as the inside wall player on the 4 man side of the match zone concept, with the 2 quickest athletes on our team around him. He's a good role starter, being paid on par with the best db on our team and the best in the league. I challenge any one to find a starting db last year in he cfl with fewer pass knock downs, picks, and forced fumbles. He has a strong knack for coming up into the box and making plays, on his own and on blitzes. He's a dave donaldson clone. Expand I was going by 3dwn for the salary which might have been a mistake,,, is there a better source?(just asking) 13) Redha Kramdi, Winnipeg Blue Bombers (N) Hard money: $125,000 Maximum value: $139,000 A rare Canadian starter at strongside linebacker, Kramdi’s unicorn status is reflected in his $86,200 salary and $25,000 signing bonus. The 27-year-old is also entitled to $13,800 for housing, as well as $1,000 for either form of all-star selection and $2,000 for a divisional or league award, with the ability to cash in up to three times at each level. so 86.2+25+13.8=124.8 hard money. ly he had 5 knockdowns (about middle of the pack in dbs, and 6 tackles for loss which was top 5) Edited February 1 by Pete
Booch Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 On 2025-02-01 at 3:11 AM, Pete said: I guess these are just mirages...Winnipeg Blue Bombers Redha Kramdi 2024 Regular Season Highlights Winnipeg Blue Bombers Redha Kramdi 2023 Regular Season Highlights Im not saying hes an allstar, but hes not as bad as some make out (btw his salary is at 125K , only way he gets higher is by winning awards or allstar selections. Which is reasonable for cdn starter.) Expand Every player will make plays and u can make a reel on...his salary was posted as 139k last yr...and Walters doesn't do incentive laden deals wbbfan and Piggy 1 2
HardCoreBlue Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 This back and forth discussion on Kramdi is one of many great examples why it’s fun to be on this site. wbbfan, Piggy 1, ddanger and 2 others 1 4
Brandon Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 Kramdi "appears" to be getting better even if it is at a slower pace. He doesn't look completely lost or over matched when he is on the field. Jake Thomas on the other hand..... that's an easy guy to rag on because his ceiling is low and it only is going to get worse.
Booch Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 On 2025-02-01 at 5:25 AM, Brandon said: Kramdi "appears" to be getting better even if it is at a slower pace. He doesn't look completely lost or over matched when he is on the field. Jake Thomas on the other hand..... that's an easy guy to rag on because his ceiling is low and it only is going to get worse. Expand His ceiling fell in and went through the floor and he's in the basement now with all that rubble on him as he tippy toes around it and has the odd play run right into him
rebusrankin Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 Kramdi is going to start like it or not as we likely go 6 NI on offense and 2 on defense.
Colin Unger Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 (edited) Schoen is back on a 1 year deal https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/02/01/blue-bombers-re-sign-two-time-all-cfl-receiver-dalton-schoen/ Edited February 1 by Colin Unger BigBlueFanatic, bb1, bigg jay and 11 others 1 13
Bigblue204 Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 Love it!! Now get Kenny!!! https://youtu.be/-t0QnwYYAQs?si=8Y07vqzP_58vByni HardCoreBlue, Noeller, Colin Unger and 2 others 3 2
SectionKBlackout Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 Wait wasn't he going to Saskatchewan? I thought Uncle Cleetus from Weyburn had some insider info on Facebook. Rex_Banner, Stickem, Mike and 12 others 5 1 9
Bigblue204 Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 Farhan saying 1yr for 175k rebusrankin, Mike and TBURGESS 1 2
HardCoreBlue Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 On 2025-02-01 at 4:25 PM, Bigblue204 said: Farhan saying 1yr for 175k Expand So he lights it up this coming season, then we re-sign him for another to three years after that for him to retire a BB. Thought I'd put that out into the universe. Bigblue204 and rebusrankin 2
Nolby Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 On 2025-02-01 at 4:25 PM, Bigblue204 said: Farhan saying 1yr for 175k Expand Thats the deal of the year if true rebusrankin and Bigblue204 2
Mike Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 Absolutely massive signing at an incredible price SpeedFlex27, Piggy 1, BigBlueFanatic and 5 others 7 1
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