2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread

[Booch]

5 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Actually, it's about a $170,000 question. 

Buck destroyed him that game. 

Is that what he signed for?

[rebusrankin]

When has Streveler shown he can be an effective enough passer to be a starting QB? He struggled in 2019 as the starter when Nicholls went down which prompted the move for Collaros in the first place.

[Booch]

1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Well, don't hope too much. Buck was a mentor to Hogan. He coached in that offense for years under Buck. Anyone who thinks he'll be vastly different should think again. 

Hopefully that's why Jackson is here...

[SpeedFlex27]

Just now, Booch said:

Hopefully that's why Jackson is here...

Jackson should have been the OC but it's Osh. Wait for 3 months just to promote from within. 

[Booch]

Just now, rebusrankin said:

When has Streveler shown he can be an effective enough passer to be a starting QB? He struggled in 2019 as the starter when Nicholls went down which prompted the move for Collaros in the first place.

He was also hurt too from.excessive designed runs...took it's toll

He showed just fine as a raw rookie his first yr...and that was with all of 2 yrs as a qb in college behind him and learning a new game...he will be fine if he gets to play....quarter back

1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Jackson should have been the OC but it's Osh. Wait for 3 months just to promote from within. 

Yup...dumb

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, Stickem said:

I think Streve was hurt early in the year and a lot more than he let on...Using him as a battering ram was most likely the cause of his downturn ....Used correctly he should regain his form as a bonafide qb....Bring in a potential with upside as the third stringer and forget the nonsense of a Masoli who has brittle pins ...There's a reason Ottawa and Ham moved on from the guy

We used him like a freaking battering ram. 
 

33 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Curious, in your wildest dreams which QB do you see Strev resembling once he's fully realized his potential?

A better Kerry Joseph or Tracy ham. 
 

6 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Problem is even when he intends to throw, half the time he's quick to tuck the ball in and take off.  Not sure he ever gets beyond his first read.

No not really. The problem is we put him in running terrible packages with little options. 
 Zach has been too quick to tuck the ball and take off. Strevy keeps it alive  in his hand till he crosses the line and keeps his eyes down field.  
Making reads isn’t his problem. 

[SpeedFlex27]

3 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

When has Streveler shown he can be an effective enough passer to be a starting QB? He struggled in 2019 as the starter when Nicholls went down which prompted the move for Collaros in the first place.

I'm with you On the fence. He has to finally show he can play in the CFL. Run every play or why bother? Just keep Streveler as the short yardage qb, Promote Wilson or Dolegala to #2.

[Mark H.]

I've never claimed to be an expert, but some of the stuff we keep hearing about Buck here...doesn't compute with him being hired to be a head coach

I'm sure the powers that be in BC...were fully aware of what the Bombers' offense was doing/not doing.  I don't see why they'd hire a guy who's as bad as some of you keep typing.

Just my 0.02

 

[Booch]

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

We used him like a freaking battering ram. 
 

A better Kerry Joseph or Tracy ham. 
 

No not really. The problem is we put him in running terrible packages with little options. 
 Zach has been too quick to tuck the ball and take off. Strevy keeps it alive  in his hand till he crosses the line and keeps his eyes down field.  
Making reads isn’t his problem. 

Yeah he starts to move with intent of still throwing...we also a lot of.times removed half the field for him to throw to which was dumb...and had way too many runs just right into bodies...get him in sprint outs and roll outs and if either of his first 2 reads which should be clearing it out downfield aren't open then he has lots of green to gobble up...or just play pitch and catch to the guy just sitting in space 6 to 7 yards off l.o.s....I don't recall that once last yr...

[SpeedFlex27]

2 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

I've never claimed to be an expert, but some of the stuff we keep hearing about Buck here...doesn't compute with him being hired to be a head coach

I'm sure the powers that be in BC...were fully aware of what the Bombers' offense was doing/not doing.  I don't see why they'd hire a guy who's as bad as some of you keep typing.

Just my 0.02

 

Would it have been any better here if he had been hired as the Riders HC last year? He's gone. He left. I hope we kick his ass every game we play them. 

Edited February 8 by SpeedFlex27

[Booch]

3 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I'm with you On the fence. He has to finally show he can play in the CFL. Run every play or why bother? Just keep Streveler as the short yardage qb, Promote Wilson or Dolegala to #2.

He's got a better arm than ZC...he can make the throws...I was there the yr he came up when the ran him thru drills and all the throws before he was signed...

[wbbfan]

12 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Well, don't hope too much. Buck was a mentor to Hogan. He coached in that offense for years under Buck. Anyone who thinks he'll be vastly different should think again. 

Bucks offence was very different than lapos. And since buck is coaching in bc, you will certainly see changes. 
 We will see which group the counter toss, two back pa stuff was coming from and who was forcing the majority of runs to be izr. 

[SpeedFlex27]

Just now, Booch said:

He's got a better arm than ZC...he can make the throws...I was there the yr he came up when the ran him thru drills and all the throws before he was signed...

He's changed his fundamentals. He doesn't throw the same way he did in 2018 & 19. Strev's not a linear qb anymore. He's now a rotational thrower. 

[Booch]

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

Bucks offence was very different than lapos. And since buck is coaching in bc, you will certainly see changes. 
 We will see which group the counter toss, two back pa stuff was coming from and who was forcing the majority of runs to be izr. 

I sure he will see lotsa bo and Logan sets with Jackson here...and it causing team fits...especially if they run some with Strev too

Just now, SpeedFlex27 said:

He's changed his fundamentals. He doesn't throw the same way he did in 2018 & 19. Strev's not a linear qb anymore. He's now a rotational thrower. 

Yup..we have seen and discussed...so agreed..

[SpeedFlex27]

How happy will Brady be sharing the run game with Logan? This is the final year of his two year deal. 

[Booch]

Just now, SpeedFlex27 said:

How happy will Brady be sharing the run game with Logan? This is the final year of his two year deal. 

I don't think he will be sharing per say...augmenting...and BO is a team guy...I doubt he would object

[wbbfan]

9 minutes ago, Booch said:

I sure he will see lotsa bo and Logan sets with Jackson here...and it causing team fits...especially if they run some with Strev too

Yup..we have seen and discussed...so agreed..

Yeah. And I’m very excited to see that. 
 

5 minutes ago, Booch said:

I don't think he will be sharing per say...augmenting...and BO is a team guy...I doubt he would object

I think the nature of his touches evolves. Less hard sledding between the guards. Less random shots and more diverse plays taking advantage of our best guys. I think the touches mostly come out of the junk. 

[Mike]

This might seem surprising given the news from earlier today, but hey if it turns out to be wrong I will ban anyone who criticizes me for it 

Sources are telling me the Bombers have agreed to terms with Cameron Dukes 

[MOBomberFan]

Now that would be surprising, but I'd call it welcome news. He's won games in the CFL, it can be argued teams 'figured him out' as time went on but he was young and thrust into action early and had some decent success with a good supporting cast. He'll have that here, too. 26 when camp opens, decent wheels and clearly not afraid to throw the ball for better or worse. Competition breeds success.

[rebusrankin]

10 minutes ago, Mike said:

This might seem surprising given the news from earlier today, but hey if it turns out to be wrong I will ban anyone who criticizes me for it 

Sources are telling me the Bombers have agreed to terms with Cameron Dukes 

If you're wrong, I will criticize you harshly. You can't ban me, I have a better tenure situation here than Jake Thomas does with the Bombers.

[Brandon]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

He's got a better arm than ZC...he can make the throws...I was there the yr he came up when the ran him thru drills and all the throws before he was signed...

Strev had no issues at all throwing the ball in the NFL and having success for the two - three years he was gone.   

Strev when he first played with us was able to throw the ball with no issues... it was only when LaPo got cute and designed weird plays and then once again last season where LaPierce decided to also get cute and assumed that he was the 2nd coming of Christian Okoye and would run very predictable plays which were 75% him rolling out and running into a pile of players.    

 

[Mark H.]

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Would it have been any better here if he had been hired as the Riders HC last year? He's gone. He left. I hope we kick his ass every game we play them. 

It doesn't matter where. The point is, teams see value in him as a coach.

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, Mark H. said:

I've never claimed to be an expert, but some of the stuff we keep hearing about Buck here...doesn't compute with him being hired to be a head coach

I'm sure the powers that be in BC...were fully aware of what the Bombers' offense was doing/not doing.  I don't see why they'd hire a guy who's as bad as some of you keep typing.

Just my 0.02

 

Same thing happened with lapo. Twice. Reputation and time in the league get you jobs and shots. It’s happened a lot. 

23 minutes ago, Mike said:

This might seem surprising given the news from earlier today, but hey if it turns out to be wrong I will ban anyone who criticizes me for it 

Sources are telling me the Bombers have agreed to terms with Cameron Dukes 

I mean for an optimal camp we do want one more qb. I thought it’d be a rookie though. 
 

1 minute ago, Mark H. said:

It doesn't matter where. The point is, teams see value in him as a coach.

a lot of things go into being a good hc. The best hc isn’t often the best co, it’s more about development of players coaches and in game decisions. Lapo is a much better hc than oc imo. Because he’s a great teacher, leader, and boss. His weaknesses at oc aren’t as strong at hc, except he always insisted on running the offence him self. 

[brett_c_b]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

I don't think he will be sharing per say...augmenting...and BO is a team guy...I doubt he would object

Some of his public comments last year indicated he's more of a me guy than a team guy. But that's probably just O'Shea's fault

[HardCoreBlue]

It’s interesting to me that a few posters here run cover for Jake Thomas and get frustrated because we talk way to harshly about him over and over again but then do the same thing by consistently coming in hot on CS questioning his ability. It’s funny how we can see things differently when watching certain players.

Edited February 8 by HardCoreBlue