Super Duper Negatron Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 I can't see how our roster isn't worse than last year at the moment. Tracker and rebusrankin 1 1
Booch Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Super Duper Negatron said: I can't see how our roster isn't worse than last year at the moment. oh watch what you say...tuggers gnna attack SpeedFlex27, Noeller and Piggy 1 1 1 1
3rdand1.5 Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 IMO Qb-stronger than last year RB-stronger than last year Receiver-this one is really tough, ceiling lower but it appears to be more balanced...for now a wash O-line- as of today weaker-probably my second biggest concern as of Feb. 12th DB-I almost would call it a wash...but Fords passport does hurt, so today I say slightly weaker LB-I actually really like the potential I say it is stronger than last year DL-A better mix of experienced vets mixed in than last year-I thought our D-line was a big concern going into last season and I again think it is this season, in fact my biggest concern on our roster as of Feb 12th-for now a wash Specials-appear to be far stronger Cdn. talent and depth-significant weaker Global-honestly can't evaluate yet Overall stronger in 4 components (QB, RB, LB, specials) Overall weaker in 3 components (O-line, DB, CDN depth) Static in 2 components (Rcvr, DL) and Global I can't...... blue85gold, bearpants, Tracker and 1 other 2 2
bustamente Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 (edited) Ah yes the off season where Riders fans puff out their chests telling Canada that they are ready to win their 5th Grey Cup, knowing deep down inside that 4 stripes is all they will ever wear on their pants. Edited February 12 by bustamente
17to85 Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 Rosters always look weaker when you lose players to free agency and they don't get replaced by other free agents. Bottom line this teams improvements will come mainly from young players improving and new recruits stepping up. Free agency is headline grabbing and can be used to bolster some areas of need, but to maintain a winning team you must be able to replace people through your recruiting/drafting. coach17, wpgallday1960, Bigblue204 and 1 other 4
HardCoreBlue Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 36 minutes ago, Booch said: oh watch what you say...tuggers gnna attack Ummmm what’s a tugger? Bigblue204 and MOBomberFan 1 1
wbbfan Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 (edited) Elk cut j min pelley. Wonder if we sign him so we can play him beside Jake and have the two slowest linemen in the history of football. 28 minutes ago, 3rdand1.5 said: IMO Qb-stronger than last year RB-stronger than last year Receiver-this one is really tough, ceiling lower but it appears to be more balanced...for now a wash O-line- as of today weaker-probably my second biggest concern as of Feb. 12th DB-I almost would call it a wash...but Fords passport does hurt, so today I say slightly weaker LB-I actually really like the potential I say it is stronger than last year DL-A better mix of experienced vets mixed in than last year-I thought our D-line was a big concern going into last season and I again think it is this season, in fact my biggest concern on our roster as of Feb 12th-for now a wash Specials-appear to be far stronger Cdn. talent and depth-significant weaker Global-honestly can't evaluate yet Overall stronger in 4 components (QB, RB, LB, specials) Overall weaker in 3 components (O-line, DB, CDN depth) Static in 2 components (Rcvr, DL) and Global I can't...... great breakdown. Largely agree. I think we will likely be better on the field this year that last year. But, our margin for error at most positions will be drastically smaller. If we see comparable health struggles as we did last year, we will be screwed. Qb and rb agree. wr, weaker than going into last season, stronger than what we actually fielded last year. ol same as wr. Weaker than last year on paper before playing but I think it’ll be better in actuality. db I think we will be better in terms of talent. Guys going into their 2nd year as starters, plus griffin getting a bigger role. I think we go ni at S and end up being the same ratio wise. Lber much improved. dl likely improved in actuality. agree on teams and depth. Edited February 12 by wbbfan HardCoreBlue, BBlink, Piggy 1 and 1 other 2 2
Booch Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 50 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: Ummmm what’s a tugger? Ye who feels someone does no wrong and hence tugs lol coach17, Piggy 1 and HardCoreBlue 1 2
Fatty Liver Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 (edited) 19 hours ago, 17to85 said: Free agency is headline grabbing and can be used to bolster some areas of need, but to maintain a winning team you must be able to replace people through your recruiting/drafting. Reads like a quote Hufnagel might have made around 6 years ago when the Bombers were rising. Edited February 13 by Fatty Liver wbbfan 1
Goalie Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 2 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said: Ummmm what’s a tugger? In Australia it’s slang for whacking off. Booch 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: Reads like a quote Hufnagel might have made around 6 years ago when the Bombers were rising. Next Man Up. Next Team Down. You can only see improvement if the guy behind can actually play. That's what happens long term. Teams can't keep the depth going & they fall off a cliff. Huff sounded real good. people said the Stamps were the smartest & best run team in the CFL. Then crash. Now, Dicky the Huff accolyte is now being told he's stupid. He's not. He just followed the company line. Huff saw what was coming & decided he was too old to deal with the consequences. Edited February 13 by SpeedFlex27
BBlink Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 The only player we've lost this offseason that will most assuredly result in a downgrade is Lawler. But we were without Schoen last year so I kind of see it as a push (assuming Schoen can be who we know he can be). blue85gold 1
Mark H. Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 I think Brady O will be even better this year, and adding a guy like Randolph at guard would make a big difference. And Strevy needs an actual chance to play. Huge potential on O, if the right moves are made rebusrankin, wbbfan, Piggy 1 and 1 other 2 2
wbbfan Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, Mark H. said: I think Brady O will be even better this year, and adding a guy like Randolph at guard would make a big difference. And Strevy needs an actual chance to play. Huge potential on O, if the right moves are made Some more diverse run schemes and secondary motion threats will help too. I’d love to see 3 imp ol though BBlink and Mark H. 1 1
Goalie Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 (edited) 3 imports or Wallace if he earns it is cool with me. I might consider bringing in an import center honestly. Edited February 13 by Goalie wbbfan 1
Brandon Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 52 minutes ago, Mark H. said: I think Brady O will be even better this year, and adding a guy like Randolph at guard would make a big difference. And Strevy needs an actual chance to play. Huge potential on O, if the right moves are made With Logan and Mitchell on the team, it would be interesting if they ran the O similar to the 2023 49ers when they had a healthy Purdy / McCaffrey / Deebo / Aiyuk with a lot of variety in runs, qb moving out of the pocket, quick passes with the potential of great YAC which then opened up many deep balls down the field. I'm not sure if Zach is capable of doing a short game anymore though and if he is stuck as a drop back passer tossing it deep regardless if the receiver is open or not. Piggy 1, wbbfan and Mark H. 2 1
17to85 Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Next Man Up. Next Team Down. You can only see improvement if the guy behind can actually play. That's what happens long term. Teams can't keep the depth going & they fall off a cliff. Huff sounded real good. people said the Stamps were the smartest & best run team in the CFL. Then crash. Now, Dicky the Huff accolyte is now being told he's stupid. He's not. He just followed the company line. Huff saw what was coming & decided he was too old to deal with the consequences. Stamps qb got busted.... thats the real trick in the cfl. You got a qb you got a chance to be good, you don't have a qb you're toast. EP77 and wbbfan 1 1
wbbfan Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 2 hours ago, Goalie said: 3 imports or Wallace if he earns it is cool with me. I might consider bringing in an import center honestly. Agree. I think centre is almost as good a position to go imp at as rt. Pass rushes aren’t as blind side heavy as they used to be, but you can still slide roll and do a lot to help a rt. Having a great centre who can allow the guards to help the tackles more goes soo far. Plus having a guy at C who is athletic enough to get down field not just on zone assignments but on the back side of plays when Dts don’t stay in the play is huge. Piggy 1 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 3 hours ago, 17to85 said: Stamps qb got busted.... thats the real trick in the cfl. You got a qb you got a chance to be good, you don't have a qb you're toast. I don't see The Next Man Up behind Collaros. Some think it's Streveler but jury is out on that. We all better hope it was Buck mismanaging & coaching his qbs. 1 hour ago, wbbfan said: Agree. I think centre is almost as good a position to go imp at as rt. Pass rushes aren’t as blind side heavy as they used to be, but you can still slide roll and do a lot to help a rt. Having a great centre who can allow the guards to help the tackles more goes soo far. Plus having a guy at C who is athletic enough to get down field not just on zone assignments but on the back side of plays when Dts don’t stay in the play is huge. When was the last time a CFL team had an American Center? The 1960's?
M.O.A.B. Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 I believe Greg Van Roten played Center for Argos. rebusrankin 1
rebusrankin Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 If we go 3 Americans on the OL, how do we deploy the ratio? (I like the idea btw). That would be 2 ol, 2wr, rb, lb, dt and the 8th is ???? Piggy 1 1
17to85 Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 6 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: When was the last time a CFL team had an American Center? The 1960's? The Bombers used an American at centre not THAT long ago.... 2000s sometime.
GCn20 Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 (edited) 11 hours ago, wbbfan said: Some more diverse run schemes and secondary motion threats will help too. I’d love to see 3 imp ol though We may have to go 3 IMP OL, and I am Ok with that. Randolph represents a massive upgrade to Dobson. If Wallace is good enough to beat out Randolph I will be tickled pink. Would like the Bombers to still pick up a solid NAT OL for insurance though. 25 minutes ago, rebusrankin said: If we go 3 Americans on the OL, how do we deploy the ratio? (I like the idea btw). That would be 2 ol, 2wr, rb, lb, dt and the 8th is ???? 8th could be FB like in past years or we use a NAT safety. Another option is nationalized IMPs. 20 minutes ago, 17to85 said: The Bombers used an American at centre not THAT long ago.... 2000s sometime. Dyson. Edited February 13 by GCn20 wbbfan and Tracker 2
wbbfan Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 20 minutes ago, GCn20 said: We may have to go 3 IMP OL, and I am Ok with that. Randolph represents a massive upgrade to Dobson. If Wallace is good enough to beat out Randolph I will be tickled pink. Would like the Bombers to still pick up a solid NAT OL for insurance though. 8th could be FB like in past years or we use a NAT safety. Another option is nationalized IMPs. Dyson. Yep pretty much. Dyson, benedict ibisi, Moe elowanebe, we had a good length run of IMP centres after dave vankoughnett retired. We had a guy for a few games andrew jones I think, who played with khari. He was like 6'11.
Booch Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 7 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: I don't see The Next Man Up behind Collaros. Some think it's Streveler but jury is out on that. We all better hope it was Buck mismanaging & coaching his qbs. When was the last time a CFL team had an American Center? The 1960's? Benedict Ibisi here in 2002 qnd 2003 46 minutes ago, 17to85 said: The Bombers used an American at centre not THAT long ago.... 2000s sometime. Ibisi...and he was good too 17to85, wbbfan and Piggy 1 2 1
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