2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread

[Bigblue204]

generally speaking...it's round 2-6 where you find the gems in the CFL draft. Round 1 is likely the biggest guessing game

[Mark H.]

9 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

generally speaking...it's round 2-6 where you find the gems in the CFL draft. Round 1 is likely the biggest guessing game

Will they NFL or not NFL...that is the question?

[wbbfan]

15 hours ago, 17to85 said:

And who are those guys? Like seriously which OC doesn't have risk attached to them?

I mean Jackson had that elk offence topping the league under jones when he could focus on just the O. He’s been at it long enough he should be expected to to succeed right away. 
 

2 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

Regardless of who comes in, I don't think we see that much change in the offensive system.

Don’t agree. The offence changed soo much from lapo to under buck. 
 It’ll depend on how much input zach gets, and how much the new oc works to counter zachs weaknesses. 
 

1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Can't overstate how big of a loss Goveia is.

Not many around with his knowledge, connections and abilities across Canada.

Sort of feels like this era is coming to an end.

100%. I’m happier for Ted to get this shot, soo long over due, than I am sore for our loss. It is a great loss but he deserves this soo much. The league is better off with guys like Ted running foot ball ops than some of the rabble we’ve seen. 
 We need shaking up, no way we replace him and improve though. 
 

Very much the end of an era. Hopefully we are looking at the mafia going into godfather 2 territory not 3, but it feels like godfather 3. 
 

57 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

TBF, other than Dobson, the only other 1st round pick we've had in the last 5 years was Bennett. 

We traded down this past draft to get 2 early 2nd rounders in a deep draft (Clercius & MCI).  We traded our 2022 pick for Lawson & we traded our 2020 pick in the Collaros trade.

Not a lot of volume in firsts lately. But we’ve killed it in rounds 2-4. 

[Mark H.]

11 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Don’t agree. The offence changed soo much from lapo to under buck. 
 It’ll depend on how much input zach gets, and how much the new oc works to counter zachs weaknesses. 
 

When Zach arrived in 2019, from his very first start, the ball was going downfield more.  This continued under Buck.

That's always going to be a cornerstone of the O, no matter who the OC is - so far there is no evidence to prove otherwise

[WinnipegGordo]

 

 

[Arnold_Palmer]

9 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

 

 

Sweet! Hope this means the writing is on the wall for Bighill. 

[blue85gold]

Just now, Arnold_Palmer said:

Sweet! Hope this means the writing is on the wall for Bighill. 

Yes, hope this is it for Biggie and Kyrie.  Jones can be a useful piece but hope we didn't break the bank on him.

[rebusrankin]

Hope we didn't break the bank on Jones. Now is this a sign we are moving on from Wilson or Bighill?

[Fatty Liver]

17 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Sweet! Hope this means the writing is on the wall for Bighill. 

Nope, but probably means they won't be signing Wynton McManis anytime soon.  😄

[Bigblue204]

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

Don’t agree. The offence changed soo much from lapo to under buck. 
 It’ll depend on how much input zach gets, and how much the new oc works to counter zachs weaknesses. 
 

I feel like that was in large part because of Zach/other key players coming into their own. 

23 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Hope we didn't break the bank on Jones. Now is this a sign we are moving on from Wilson or Bighill?

Why would they break the bank?

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, Mark H. said:

When Zach arrived in 2019, from his very first start, the ball was going downfield more.  This continued under Buck.

That's always going to be a cornerstone of the O, no matter who the OC is - so far there is no evidence to prove otherwise

It didn’t happen with strev and lapo, and zach has been forced to run check downs and screen based offences. Zach will take his shots, but I don’t think that will be a corner stone for us for certain. New oc can change a lot. 
 At zachs best, he wasn’t chucking over the shoulder ropes to guys streaking down field. He was dissecting Ds with seam busters and deep outs 20 yards down field. That, is what should be a corner stone of our offence with zach at the helm. 
 

14 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

I feel like that was in large part because of Zach/other key players coming into their own. 

Why would they break the bank?

we didn’t adjust with personnel changes prior though, and we had the WRs to run it out earlier. 
 

Zach played a part in it, but the shift we saw to buck the especially in the final year was drastic. Hardly any thing remained from the lapo era. 
 

we have been known to hand out surprising over pays to guys taking starters jobs or who we hope would. As recently as last year we gave what 300k+ combined to Kramdi and Lawson. We paid rose bank well after his down turn. We been handing starters money to Augustine. Meanwhile we low balled grant twice. 
 We are a bit unpredictable with paying our own guys. 
 

I hope this means biggie/kyrie are done here. I also hope it was a reasonable deal. Further more, I hope jones takes a long hard look at film and does a better job getting back to his spots in pass plays. Or has his snaps limited in those situations. 

Edited 7 hours ago by wbbfan

[Mark H.]

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

It didn’t happen with strev and lapo, and zach has been forced to run check downs and screen based offences. Zach will take his shots, but I don’t think that will be a corner stone for us for certain. New oc can change a lot. 
 At zachs best, he wasn’t chucking over the shoulder ropes to guys streaking down field. He was dissecting Ds with seam busters and deep outs 20 yards down field. That, is what should be a corner stone of our offence with zach at the helm. 

Then we agree. This is more what I'm referring to. As compared to all check downs, previous to ZC.

[wbbfan]

1 minute ago, Mark H. said:

Then we agree. This is more what I'm referring to. As compared to all check downs, previous to ZC.

And I think if it’s bourgoin getting the oc, that we will see that. Before bucks overhaul this year we saw a lot of that stuff especially with Lawler and schoen. Zach always had a guy down field in a position he was comfortable with who could break off and gouge the D for a 15-25 gain. But we lost those guys, plus the balance in our schemes to open those seams. Then with us not stretching the field side to side with motion and freezing the second level with pa it just was gone. 

[3rdand1.5]

I wasn't expecting Jones this quick, I don't think it is a bad signing by any stretch, but surprised he was among the first signings. 

 

We do need to get younger in some spots IMO and maybe this is a start......

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, WinnipegGordo said:

 

 

Not sure if he is going to wow fans but still a helluva lot better than we're had for the past couple of seasons.

[Fatty Liver]

2 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

Then we agree. This is more what I'm referring to. As compared to all check downs, previous to ZC.

It wasn't "all check downs", it was carefully executed shots downfield to avoid interceptions with no 50/50 desperation balls thrown. Darvin Adams two best seasons were played with Nichols and LaPo.

 

51 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Hope we didn't break the bank on Jones. Now is this a sign we are moving on from Wilson or Bighill?

Shouldn't be necessary, Tony would play for sandwiches.  On Ed Tait's podcast Jones said he was paid $180USD per game + Subway coupons playing for the Iowa Barnstormers of the Indoor Football League in 2021. 

[17to85]

7 minutes ago, 3rdand1.5 said:

I wasn't expecting Jones this quick, I don't think it is a bad signing by any stretch, but surprised he was among the first signings. 

 

We do need to get younger in some spots IMO and maybe this is a start......

He was probably an easy signing. 

[wbbfan]

8 minutes ago, 3rdand1.5 said:

I wasn't expecting Jones this quick, I don't think it is a bad signing by any stretch, but surprised he was among the first signings. 

 

We do need to get younger in some spots IMO and maybe this is a start......

Might be a case that we wanted him, wasn’t gonna be a lot of market for him, rewarded him with the front loaded bonus laden deal that won’t hit us next year. Guys like wj might want to haggle more. 

[17to85]

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

mean Jackson had that elk offence topping the league under jones when he could focus on just the O. He’s been at it long enough he should be expected to to succeed right away. 

Of the "names" potentially available he would be at the top of my list. Feel like he tends to have under rated offenses 

[blue85gold]

6 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Of the "names" potentially available he would be at the top of my list. Feel like he tends to have under rated offenses 

Me too. Jackson showed some commitment to the run too which would be welcome here.

[HardCoreBlue]

21 hours ago, Noeller said:

Buck to BC as per Farhan...

 

 

This announcement immediately followed by BO texting MOS/KW in what they should be looking for in an OC. 🙂 

[Nolby]

1 hour ago, 3rdand1.5 said:

I wasn't expecting Jones this quick, I don't think it is a bad signing by any stretch, but surprised he was among the first signings. 

 

We do need to get younger in some spots IMO and maybe this is a start......

I hope the d line get he most lovin, gets younger and meaner.

[Stickem]

Jones signing is  very positive....guy is a baller....Hope to hear of more positives as Dec. winds down....Walters burning the midnight oil, I would think

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, blue85gold said:

Me too. Jackson showed some commitment to the run too which would be welcome here.

Also a nuance and ability to be multiple with positions and players that I really like. Like he did with Leake. 
 

1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said:

This announcement immediately followed by BO texting MOS/KW in what they should be looking for in an OC. 🙂 

He sends over a list of candidates, half are just run plays and the other half former RBs like Harris lol. 
 

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

Of the "names" potentially available he would be at the top of my list. Feel like he tends to have under rated offenses 

while he’s had some pricy WRs, he’s done a lot with not the best pieces and under some tough circumstances. Big believer in what he can become. 

[HardCoreBlue]

3 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Also a nuance and ability to be multiple with positions and players that I really like. Like he did with Leake. 
 

He sends over a list of candidates, half are just run plays and the other half former RBs like Harris lol. 
 

while he’s had some pricy WRs, he’s done a lot with not the best pieces and under some tough circumstances. Big believer in what he can become. 

The other half are check-down passes to him. :-)