2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread

[Noeller]

 

 

[bearpants]

an injury waiting to happen and a special teamer.... two guys I would've been fine moving on from... 

all due respect... Wilson was a top OLB in the league a few years ago and Gauthier is one of the best STers we've had during the mafia era... these two have done great things for this team... but their times have passed... 

[WinnipegGordo]

Looks like all the band is coming back for one last tour.

Interesting to note, of the 8 re-signings so far only Tony Jones has signed for 2 years.

 

[Goalie]

Well. So much for moving on from guys who are washed up. 
 

you know Jake is next at this rate. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Goalie

[Arnold_Palmer]

22 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

 

Two injury prone guys that I would have moved on from. 

 

 

 

[Arnold_Palmer]

I’m really trying to wrap my head around this. Wilson can’t be counted on to be anything more then a rotational guy because of his health, he’s still a decent player when he’s on the field, and Gauthier is still a good ST player again while healthy. I have a hard time believing both would be in the league if Winnipeg didn’t offer them contracts. I’m hoping it’s a case where they realize this and it’s under a team friendly deal because otherwise it just leads me to believe more of the same old from the Bombers.

[Goalie]

Maybe if ppl spam the post on x or Facebook with negative comments they will release them. lol. 

[Bigblue204]

Don't mind these signings. Both solid role players and if Wilson can stay healthy (big ask at this point) he can be a game changer.

[Goalie]

Wilson should be an easily replaceable player. Gauthier is a fine ST guy. Wilson in my opinion is the type they need to move on from. Can’t stay healthy. Just wasting a spot that you should be able to replace with a rookie minimum contract. Gauthier a fine cdn ST guy who is not as easily replaced. Draft there. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Goalie

[bigg jay]

5 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

I’m really trying to wrap my head around this. Wilson can’t be counted on to be anything more then a rotational guy because of his health, he’s still a decent player when he’s on the field, and Gauthier is still a good ST player again while healthy. I have a hard time believing both would be in the league if Winnipeg didn’t offer them contracts. I’m hoping it’s a case where they realize this and it’s under a team friendly deal because otherwise it just leads me to believe more of the same old from the Bombers.

This is the key part of both signings.  As long as they are team-friendly deals and we aren't expecting much from either guy, then I have no issue with bringing them back because at this point in their careers, neither guy can be relied on as an every game player.

[Booch]

12 hours ago, Brandon said:

WTF are people saying getting rid of Lawler?  Dude was our best receiver and made some fantastic catches.     

Cutting top 3 in the league talent is crazy talk... similar to suggesting that we should of moved on from Willie.  Crazy talk.   

Same with someone saying we should move on from Holm.... no.  

How about we cut the punter, the lbers,  the d-line and the guys who never made any big plays at all last season. 

yeah...he makes catches nobody can...and that will be lethal with a good support staff and a QB who can consistantly put the ball where it needs to be...ZC hasnt been that guy of late

Poll the DB's in the league about who the best is...and requires most focus....you will get your answer

We had more than adequate dline talent....if used correctly and snap counts reflected it....players need to be put in a position...scheme...and coached appropriately to succed....they get the accolades when on point...and criticised when it seems they were whiffing and scuffling....and in both instances that should be put on coaches first...then players....too many people round here put success and failure soley on the feet of the player...its the opposite at the pro level as opposed toamatuer nd collegiate where an elite guy can compensate for poor or minimal coaching

But when you add into the mix players past their prime...just not good enough but are fav's...doesnt matter what scheme you run...9 times outta 10 they wont get job done...cause they cant

[Goalie]

It’s always the coaches fault huh. Even when guys are missing tackles and dropping passes. Always the coaches. Lawler ain’t worth 300k if he only shows up once every 4 games. 
 

repeat stuff repeat stuff repeat stuff. 
 

[WinnipegGordo]

The only issue with bringing all these guys back is that the Bombers have shown that don't release veterans if they make it to training camp.

Maybe this year will be different.....

[Booch]

41 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

 

and so it starts.....l

keeping the band together...blocking new blood and further retarding progression and transition another yr

Depth guys on a very team friendly deal where they are role guys would be fine, but if out performed in TC then released or PR'd....but this is not a good sign where they were viewed as priority signings before free agency opns up...Can just imagine who's next....Osh must be back from his lil trip

[17to85]

Wilson when healthy is a good player. Of course he's rarely healthy. I don't mind bringing him back but you need a body behind him for when the inevitable injury happens.

Gauthier is a teams contributer, you still need those guys.

1 minute ago, Booch said:

PR'd....but this is not a good sign where they were viewed as priority signings before free agency opns up

Orrrrrrrrrrr they're just easy signings

[Booch]

1 minute ago, Goalie said:

It’s always the coaches fault huh. Even when guys are missing tackles and dropping passes. Always the coaches. Lawler ain’t worth 300k if he only shows up once every 4 games. 
 

repeat stuff repeat stuff repeat stuff. 
 

you obviously have no clue.....players will even say it's the coaches who prepared them and had them in the right spots when sucessful.....

And missing tackles....can be from ...inferior talent level....and in wrong gap...zone...area...responsibility error where they were put in bad spot to be there to make tackle....you obviously can't recognize a basic set-up or scheme and who is responsible for whom on certain plays...set-ups etc...Have you ever created a playbook....scheme....know th basics of say what olineman are responsible for...on a certain play.....dline man on a certain front...what depth a LB should be in coordination to it....so when he is caught flat footed...or in an improper depth were a smart O.C took advantage of it...and then makes said player look like he missed his tacj=kle from being out of position to make it?....from the depth of your posts and your rebuttals...I'd say no....

4 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Wilson when healthy is a good player. Of course he's rarely healthy. I don't mind bringing him back but you need a body behind him for when the inevitable injury happens.

Gauthier is a teams contributer, you still need those guys.

Orrrrrrrrrrr they're just easy signings

yeah...cause nobody is gonna beat the door doen or rush to sign them in early stages of free agency so yeah...real easy....Wilson would be perfect as the DI like Ayers was...and Cole ....not as your defacto guy as he cant be relied on

[17to85]

3 minutes ago, Booch said:

yeah...cause nobody is gonna beat the door doen or rush to sign them in early stages of free agency so yeah...real easy....Wilson would be perfect as the DI like Ayers was...and Cole ....not as your defacto guy as he cant be relied on

Like I said, easy signings. And there's nothing wrong with that. Again, if Wilson somehow manages to stay healthy he's a great guy to have on the roster. You just have this "it's all awful unless they sign the young physical specimens I like" mentality. 

[Booch]

7 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Like I said, easy signings. And there's nothing wrong with that. Again, if Wilson somehow manages to stay healthy he's a great guy to have on the roster. You just have this "it's all awful unless they sign the young physical specimens I like" mentality. 

I beat the drum for Wilson all the time if you look at posts...Have said he is our best sideline  to sideline player on defence and one of the surest tacklers....never once have I said any thing negative about him...we are better when a totlly healthy and in his prime Wison was on roster....so don't go putting words in my mouth thank you very much

But is a 32 yr old guy...who has played 22 games over the last 3 yrs a high priority and be penciled in as th starter with next to no competition?...and or backup plan?...As we have seen that before...with Biggie...Jeffcoat...BA....and others

I hope he has put injury woes behind him and at 32 prob could have 2..3 really good yrs in him as he is elite.....I wont bet on it tho....so hopefully he came cheap and they are looking at other options there as well and not just handing the job over

Edited 9 hours ago by Booch

[17to85]

But nothing says what the plan is for the guy... or the position in general. You're just letting your biases get in the way. They sign Wilson now because who else is going to sign him? And he knows it. So for him he gets a contract now rather than being left holding the bag waiting for his phone to ring. 

Honestly I fully expect the plan at lb is have some younger guys around and see what happens. With Wilson and Jones you got some guys with some experience and if you jabe some young depth it's the ideal situation. 

[Goalie]

How do you block people on here. I’m tired of the repetitive ****. 

[rebusrankin]

Both signings are terrible. Wilson can't stay healthy and neither can Gauthier who is nothing but an aging st player. Both should be easy to replace. Welcome back to the Winnipeg Country Club.

[bigg jay]

13 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

But nothing says what the plan is for the guy... or the position in general. You're just letting your biases get in the way. They sign Wilson now because who else is going to sign him? And he knows it. So for him he gets a contract now rather than being left holding the bag waiting for his phone to ring. 

Honestly I fully expect the plan at lb is have some younger guys around and see what happens. With Wilson and Jones you got some guys with some experience and if you jabe some young depth it's the ideal situation. 

History says and until MOS does something to suggest otherwise, we can assume that it's the same plan he always goes to with his returning vets.

[Booch]

12 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

But nothing says what the plan is for the guy... or the position in general. You're just letting your biases get in the way. They sign Wilson now because who else is going to sign him? And he knows it. So for him he gets a contract now rather than being left holding the bag waiting for his phone to ring. 

Honestly I fully expect the plan at lb is have some younger guys around and see what happens. With Wilson and Jones you got some guys with some experience and if you jabe some young depth it's the ideal situation. 

we know wha the plan is based on the last 3 yrs....seen it with Jake...him....Biggie....no competition at all for their spots...it's not a bias by any means...just fact based from what we saw....and really if you listen to Osh post game of Grey Cup and since....he believes that doing something...anything different or second guess a few decisions are not warranted...why would he do a 180 now??...

Wilson is a nice piece...if healthy and capable of 18 games right outta the shoot....and puts in the work and time in TC and not just there in body and not participating...same goes for any vet...any player....if you are purposely holding them back because 1) they not totally healthy or b2) you are worried they may get hurt in camp or 3) the thought of an actual camp and full season combined is unlikely so hold them back...then wth are they even here for???

1 minute ago, bigg jay said:

History says and until MOS does something to suggest otherwise, we can assume that it's the same plan he always goes to with his returning vets.

somebody see's and gets it....Osh wont change....been 11 yrs now....and if anything he has gotten worse with some of his stubborn weak traits...

[Noeller]

I'm going to wait and see if there's $$ mentioned anywhere. That's important in terms of these signings. 

Everyone wants to see the most talented roster take the field, and hopefully these guys are near league minimum just to be transitional pieces and help bring along the next gen.

[TBURGESS]

Welcome back to the walking wounded I guess.