2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread

[Goalie]

Facebook rumours? lol where ppl think the earth is flat eventho none of the other planets are. Where ppl send money to obvious scams. Where the jets have made 5 blockbuster trades this season already. 
 

Using Facebook as a source should result in banning and your internet taken away since you can’t determine what is real and not real. 

[wbbfan]

22 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Facebook rumours? lol where ppl think the earth is flat eventho none of the other planets are. Where ppl send money to obvious scams. Where the jets have made 5 blockbuster trades this season already. 
 

Using Facebook as a source should result in banning and your internet taken away since you can’t determine what is real and not real. 

Yuppppp. 

[brett_c_b]

On 2025-01-28 at 10:44 AM, Bigblue204 said:

I believe Walters has stated a few times that he has an amount allocated to each positional group. So I'm not sure the savings on WR would then transfer to DT or vice versa...not saying it's impossible. I just don't think that's how they work it. And if we're going off that, Wollys $$ will be spent on WR.

That's just budgeting though. I have a breakdown of where I expect my entire budget to go at work, but I still underspend in column B because I overspent in A all the time. If I hit the total budget nobody cares, but that doesn't mean I didn't start with an idea where the money was going.  I'd say he's a terrible GM if he was black and white staying only within his positional budget. They job is field the best team for X dollars, not allocate x dollars perfectly. 

 

Not saying you're wrong, but I think it's crazy if he's that black and white about it.

[SpeedFlex27]

On 2025-01-29 at 6:22 AM, CodyT said:

We've yet to see Lawler put up godly numbers. Assuming Shoen is the same as he was I think he adds more to the roster than Lawler. & it's not close imo 

Schoen is Greg Ellingson. Awesome when he plays but spends more time on the 6 game IL than catching footballs in games. Nah, Schoen's the one that can leave & we won't miss him. Lawler is the better receiver & can flip the field with one deep ball from Collaros.

Edited 2 hours ago by SpeedFlex27

[GCn20]

35 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Schoen is Greg Ellingson. Awesome when he plays but spends more time on the 6 game IL than catching footballs in games. Nah, Schoen's the one that can leave & we won't miss him. Lawler is the better receiver & can flip the field with one deep ball from Collaros.

How many games has Lawler played the last 2 years. If your argument is that Schoen isn't worth it because of reliability then the argument has to be the same for Lawler. Now, I agree that if we can only have one then Lawler should be our pick but I disagree with your premise as to why. Lawler is just a better big play receiver, while Schoen is the more consistently productive one. Six of one, half a dozen of the other, but my personal bias is towards the big play guy. Doesn't make it the right pick but I can choose my favorite, just as you have.

[blue85gold]

39 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Schoen is Greg Ellingson. Awesome when he plays but spends more time on the 6 game IL than catching footballs in games. Nah, Schoen's the one that can leave & we won't miss him. Lawler is the better receiver & can flip the field with one deep ball from Collaros.

Kenny has never played a full season. 

Schoen has score more TDs in his career than Kenny in 25 less games. 

Schoen has had 2 serious season ending injuries in the last 2 years but played all 18 in 2022.

[wbbfan]

38 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Schoen is Greg Ellingson. Awesome when he plays but spends more time on the 6 game IL than catching footballs in games. Nah, Schoen's the one that can leave & we won't miss him. Lawler is the better receiver & can flip the field with one deep ball from Collaros.

He missed 2 games in his first 2 years, then had the 1 injury last year. He's only had 1 injury put him on the 6 game. Kenny hasn't played a full season in any of his 5 years, he averages 11-12 games a year and 1 6 game stint each season. Kennys best year was 1014 yards and 6 tds. Schoens average over his first 2 is 1300 yards and 13 tds. Greg ellingson had 1 year that is comparable to schoens average. Out of 10 seasons. Ellingson also played a 6 year stretch not missing more than 2 games.

[GCn20]

10 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

He missed 2 games in his first 2 years, then had the 1 injury last year. He's only had 1 injury put him on the 6 game. Kenny hasn't played a full season in any of his 5 years, he averages 11-12 games a year and 1 6 game stint each season. Kennys best year was 1014 yards and 6 tds. Schoens average over his first 2 is 1300 yards and 13 tds. Greg ellingson had 1 year that is comparable to schoens average. Out of 10 seasons. Ellingson also played a 6 year stretch not missing more than 2 games.

Yea, Schoen is more productive and reliable than Kenny. Kenny will make the highlight reel snag at a key moment of the game. That's the choice the Bombers will be making if they can't get them both.

Edited 1 hour ago by GCn20

[Bigblue204]

I don't understand this rumour that Schoen isn't a deep ball threat? lol. WTF have you people been watching? He's made some unbelievable plays on underthrown/challenged deep balls. He's also taken 20 yard catches to the house. He's a threat to score from anywhere on the field.

This is not to take anything away from Lawler, who is obviously one of the best. Both will be back.

[GCn20]

2 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

I don't understand this rumour that Schoen isn't a deep ball threat? lol. WTF have you people been watching? He's made some unbelievable plays on underthrown/challenged deep balls. He's also taken 20 yard catches to the house. He's a threat to score from anywhere on the field.

This is not to take anything away from Lawler, who is obviously one of the best. Both will be back.

No one is saying that Schoen isn't a deep threat. Just that Lawler is better at it.

[Noeller]

Fwiw....

 

 

[Mike]

oh well, sucks to lose a Canadian but let’s be realistic here, we probably would not love the price tag he’s going to command. Hopefully this allows us to keep a few more guys. 

[wbbfan]

1 minute ago, Mike said:

oh well, sucks to lose a Canadian but let’s be realistic here, we probably would not love the price tag he’s going to command. Hopefully this allows us to keep a few more guys. 

100%. Love the talent, sucks to lose the guy. But if we are adding a160-200k salary to the defensive side, it should be a DE. 

[Arnold_Palmer]

4 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

100%. Love the talent, sucks to lose the guy. But if we are adding a160-200k salary to the defensive side, it should be a DE. 

Yeah more money allocated in a position of need. Ford is great but we have an outstanding secondary. 

[Stickem]

With Tyrells brother being the qb there ....not surprising he'd sign in Edm....c'est la vie...Hate to lose a talent like that and a canuck to boot but he wasn't a must get for 25' at any rate

[Noeller]

 

[Bigblue204]

6 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

If I'm not mistaken, Schoen said that his late signing last year was waiting to see what teams would pay him ABOVE what the bombers had offered. No one came to the table with an offer than blew him away so he came back. Not sure why that would be different this year as I don't see anyone ponying up huge amounts for him after last year.

[Mike]

I’m starting to get a weird feeling we’re going to see a bunch of guys leaving.

I know people are gonna start up with the “how come we can afford Jake but can’t afford Schoen” even though that’s nowhere near how it works, my concern is that we really struggling to be retaining any prime of their career talent who literally wasn’t born within 3 hours of here.

 

8 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

If I'm not mistaken, Schoen said that his late signing last year was waiting to see what teams would pay him ABOVE what the bombers had offered. No one came to the table with an offer than blew him away so he came back. Not sure why that would be different this year as I don't see anyone ponying up huge amounts for him after last year.

I can see teams structuring some really unique contracts for him to give him some assurances despite the low price tag he’s likely going to command this year.

[rebusrankin]

Schoen leaving would be upsetting for sure. 

I blame Trump.