2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread

[rebusrankin]

People were saying last year that the Demski deal was too much and that's before this market reset. I like Demski but he's not a 1 or 2 but he's getting paid like a 1.

[bustamente]

Sometimes you have to make hard decisions, both Lawler and Demski would be great to have back unless they want top dollar

[wbbfan]

3 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Sometimes you have to make hard decisions, both Lawler and Demski would be great to have back unless they want top dollar

Lawler won’t get tippy top dollar but Demski is locked up under crazy money. 

[Nolby]

Do we have any ideas yet whos gonna run our offense and these newly re signed receivers?

[Fatty Liver]

50 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Love Lawler but think we may lose him and I understand completely if Walter's won't show him the money again. We haven't got value for his pay the last 2 years. 

He likely has a very similar contract to Schoen in front of him. He can choose to be here and take an incentive laden contract that will require he bets on himself or take the money and run I guess.

Don't know which teams would see Lawler as a must have addition at $50k more than other top receivers are making, most teams are well set in terms of receiving talent and already have a star or two they're paying high dollar.

[Nolby]

2 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Don't know which teams would see Lawler as a must have addition at $50k more than other top receivers are making, most teams are well set in terms of receiving talent and already have a star or two they're paying high dollar.

Im sure the Stamps would love to pony up and have Lawler with Begalton running down the field with VA throwing to them.

[Brandon]

1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:

People were saying last year that the Demski deal was too much and that's before this market reset. I like Demski but he's not a 1 or 2 but he's getting paid like a 1.

When he's featured and on.. Demski is a #1 .... it just feels like he disappears and I'm not sure if it is him... the game plan.... or if it is Zach.       

The designed plays where Demski runs a deep post seems to always work... outside of his few ill time fumbles he seems to make plays when the balls goes his way.     

[Booch]

Thing is we need a vet/known commodity in addition to what we have currently to fill out our receiving Corp

Schoen shouldn't and can't be assumed to be 110% immediately...and who's to say he doesn't have a Lil set back...We have Mitchell...Demski as what you can consider proven...after that a 2nd yr Clercius and ??? 

If one of or any of the vets gets injured...that's a shallow and depleted Corp

Hollins want no part of...Rhymes is a mmm...dunno but he won't come cheaper than Mitchell..after that it's a collection of worse than what we had last yr...Lawler you should expect to be a given...Sure we have Wheatfall but he still a work in progress too...and we know exactly what to expect from ZC with a group he not familiar or comfortable with...or saddled with rookies

 

[Nolby]

15 minutes ago, Booch said:

Thing is we need a vet/known commodity in addition to what we have currently to fill out our receiving Corp

Schoen shouldn't and can't be assumed to be 110% immediately...and who's to say he doesn't have a Lil set back...We have Mitchell...Demski as what you can consider proven...after that a 2nd yr Clercius and ??? 

If one of or any of the vets gets injured...that's a shallow and depleted Corp

Hollins want no part of...Rhymes is a mmm...dunno but he won't come cheaper than Mitchell..after that it's a collection of worse than what we had last yr...Lawler you should expect to be a given...Sure we have Wheatfall but he still a work in progress too...and we know exactly what to expect from ZC with a group he not familiar or comfortable with...or saddled with rookies

 

Id kick tires on Hollins, think we give Sheed a call?

Edited Saturday at 10:19 PM by Nolby

[Pete]

ly we only had  Lawler for 10 games, Shoen for 3, so hopefully Schoen will be able to cover that production.

and we also had Josh Johnson for 10 games and Wheatfall for 7 Not exactly the strongest core.. Wilson really started producing after about 6 games. We now have Mitchell to cover off Wilson.

If we don't sign Lawler we could look for a rookie again to come and be productive i which isn't uncommon around the league) and we would still be fine. Theres also a good chance that Wilson could return for the second half of the season.

Personally I'd rather put that money into the oline or even towards Ford

[Stickem]

Lewis is still out there....the guy still has lot's left but $$$ could be a prob....Would luv to see him in bluengold for a Cup run

[Goalie]

I’d look at upgrading the DL. Definitely a guy like Ceresna or Brinkman would be nice. Either or there. Good with either one of the 2. 
 

I wouldn’t overpay for lawler. Cuz Schoen Demski Mitchell Clercius with Brady is already a solid group. The O sucked last year. Think we need to try a different approach. More Brady and short gain than Hail Mary circus catches to one guy. I’d love lawler back tho. Think they can grab lawler or Lewis still and a Brinkman tho. 
 

it wouldn’t shock me to see a release or 2 before camp also at this point. I’m looking kyrie and Jake’s way regardless of signing new deals. Jake has the Canadian passport tho so that does matter a bit here. 

Edited Saturday at 10:50 PM by Goalie

[GCn20]

2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Regret yes, blame no. It is too bad this didn’t happen before things got crazy. 

For sure. I agree 100

[MrFreakzilla]

Shouldn't we have an OC hired before free agency starts? Unless we're getting somebody from the NFL who's still in the playoffs (not likely) what's the holdup?

[bb1]

4 hours ago, Booch said:

We did...Jake

And we know if JT is on roster...it will be mega reps taken away from someone far superior...

[Fatty Liver]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

Thing is we need a vet/known commodity in addition to what we have currently to fill out our receiving Corp

Schoen shouldn't and can't be assumed to be 110% immediately...and who's to say he doesn't have a Lil set back...We have Mitchell...Demski as what you can consider proven...after that a 2nd yr Clercius and ??? 

If one of or any of the vets gets injured...that's a shallow and depleted Corp

Hollins want no part of...Rhymes is a mmm...dunno but he won't come cheaper than Mitchell..after that it's a collection of worse than what we had last yr...Lawler you should expect to be a given...Sure we have Wheatfall but he still a work in progress too...and we know exactly what to expect from ZC with a group he not familiar or comfortable with...or saddled with rookies

 

Wheatfall wasn't physically lacking so with a year under his belt hopefully he has a better grip on the playbook and the CFL game, at least he should have a step up on the rookies.  He's a good placeholder until Pokey comes back.  

2 hours ago, Nolby said:

Im sure the Stamps would love to pony up and have Lawler with Begalton running down the field with VA throwing to them.

VA throwing to Lawler could be scary.

[sweep the leg]

4 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Wheatfall wasn't physically lacking so with a year under his belt hopefully he has a better grip on the playbook and the CFL game, at least he should have a step up on the rookies.  He's a good placeholder until Pokey comes back.  

I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the plan.

If we want another vet, I’d take a look at Tevin Jones. Deep ball threat with size  who shouldn’t cost a fortune.

[SpeedFlex27]

47 minutes ago, MrFreakzilla said:

Shouldn't we have an OC hired before free agency starts? Unless we're getting somebody from the NFL who's still in the playoffs (not likely) what's the holdup?

C'mon guys, Osh has it under control. He's in no hurry. So just relax. Right? Isn't that what the Usual Suspects have said around here since Buck left? Just a reminder that legal tampering starts tomorrow & goes to the 12th. 

[GCn20]

2 hours ago, Booch said:

Thing is we need a vet/known commodity in addition to what we have currently to fill out our receiving Corp

Schoen shouldn't and can't be assumed to be 110% immediately...and who's to say he doesn't have a Lil set back...We have Mitchell...Demski as what you can consider proven...after that a 2nd yr Clercius and ??? 

If one of or any of the vets gets injured...that's a shallow and depleted Corp

Hollins want no part of...Rhymes is a mmm...dunno but he won't come cheaper than Mitchell..after that it's a collection of worse than what we had last yr...Lawler you should expect to be a given...Sure we have Wheatfall but he still a work in progress too...and we know exactly what to expect from ZC with a group he not familiar or comfortable with...or saddled with rookies

 

Yea we need Lawler but it has to be with a shave

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, MrFreakzilla said:

Shouldn't we have an OC hired before free agency starts? Unless we're getting somebody from the NFL who's still in the playoffs (not likely) what's the holdup?

Should. But I’m not holding my breath. 

[GCn20]

3 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Should. But I’m not holding my breath. 

It is very odd. About the only explanation I can think of is we have our guy and for some reason can't announce it yet, or we are waiting for someone and can't make it official yet.

The longer this goes the more I'm starting to think it's Lapo and we are letting him fulfill some contract obligations first?

Edited yesterday at 12:33 AM by GCn20

[wbbfan]

4 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Yea we need Lawler but it has to be with a shave

He needs a crew cut on that salary. I’m sure he sees it coming. 200-220 is the top imo on him. 
 If schoen isn’t gonna be healthy to start the year though, we are in a poor position as we will need a guy like lawler. 
 But I’d try FA if he doesn’t want a team friendly deal. The ratio of money he’s made since he hit FA compared to the production is the most lopsided in league history. 

[Booch]

2 hours ago, Nolby said:

Id kick tires on Hollins, think we give Sheed a call?

No and no..

 

3 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Yea we need Lawler but it has to be with a shave

Oh 100 percent...I don't think he will hold us to the coals either

Demski tho...man if we coukd rework that one. Wheatfall has potential...but so did a lot of other guys...and we know how ZC likes to favor and zero in on 2 guys all the time

Schoen is still a big question mark too..what's he gonna be like...acl returnees ...especially in skilled positions at times have a mental hurdle more than a physical one and at wr that spit second hesitation is huge...he already takes a serious pounding more than any other receiver I have seen...so continually being pummeled as ZC will prob feed him more than he should can be a recipe for disaster 

I see no reason why we can't or wouldn't fit Lawler in at 225-235...slap a bonus in there even to motivate him even tho he doesn't need it

[wbbfan]

Just now, GCn20 said:

It is very odd. About the only explanation I can think of is we have our guy and for some reason can't announce it yet, or we are waiting for someone and can't make it official yet.

Yeah that makes sense. I can’t think of many reasons. Maybe trying to play two guys against each other to get the cheapest deal possible. 

[GCn20]

Just now, wbbfan said:

Yeah that makes sense. I can’t think of many reasons. Maybe trying to play two guys against each other to get the cheapest deal possible. 

I don't know what to make of it and just firing **** against the wall