2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread

[Booch]

5 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Jason Hogan OC

Jarious QB coach

 

Not sure about Hogan, but he will have a crap load of experience and help with JJ.

who the eff is Hogan....or RB coach who has no experince doing this type of job at even a collegiate level???....and why would Osh say that it wont be a surprise? That is a huge surprise to me....i guess he meant by promoting from within I guess

[Mike]

3 minutes ago, Goalie said:

That section S one was a clown who started **** all the time Although personally I enjoyed him. Why is this such a bad move tho especially with Jackson as a coach. 

Because this is a Grey Cup season and I don’t want somebody learning on the fly while his much-more-qualified assistant waits in the wings.

Not the kind of structure I want, this doesn’t feel like the Younger promotion at all.

[Goalie]

Just now, Mike said:

Because this is a Grey Cup season and I don’t want somebody learning on the fly while his much-more-qualified assistant waits in the wings.

Not the kind of structure I want, this doesn’t feel like the Younger promotion at all.

But with Jackson there you kinda gotta think it’s a team effort instead of just one dude. I dunno. Hogans lack of experience is a concern but Jackson should help there shouldn’t he. 

[Booch]

1 minute ago, Mike said:

Because this is a Grey Cup season and I don’t want somebody learning on the fly while his much-more-qualified assistant waits in the wings.

Not the kind of structure I want, this doesn’t feel like the Younger promotion at all.

did you seriously tho expect anything different from Osh?...I didnt

 

[Goalie]

Just now, Booch said:

did you seriously tho expect anything different from Osh?...I didnt

 

Why is your opinion more important than Brady Oliveiras ? Cuz apparently Brady went to bat for this guy. 

[Mike]

Just now, Goalie said:

But with Jackson there you kinda gotta think it’s a team effort instead of just one dude. I dunno. Hogans lack of experience is a concern but Jackson should help there shouldn’t he. 

Like I said … that’s not the structure I would want. Do you typically let the more qualified people take a background role unless it’s a situation where they’ve got one foot in the grave already or something?

[Booch]

Just now, Goalie said:

But with Jackson there you kinda gotta think it’s a team effort instead of just one dude. I dunno. Hogans lack of experience is a concern but Jackson should help there shouldn’t he. 

then why not give the reigns to the guy who had the most productive offense last yr and experience doing it at the pro level and let Hogan continue to be part of the "team" learning from him....ass backwards structure

[bigg jay]

3 minutes ago, Booch said:

who the eff is Hogan....or RB coach who has no experince doing this type of job at even a collegiate level???....and why would Osh say that it wont be a surprise? That is a huge surprise to me....i guess he meant by promoting from within I guess

You can read about him here:

https://3downnation.com/2024/12/05/eight-candidates-to-be-the-next-offensive-coordinator-of-the-winnipeg-blue-bombers/

Oh wait, no you can't because nobody even remotely considered him as a potential OC given other people available.

[Super Duper Negatron]

Booch was wondering what jumping the shark meant earlier. I think we are seeing it in real time.

[Booch]

Just now, Goalie said:

Why is your opinion more important than Brady Oliveiras ? Cuz apparently Brady went to bat for this guy. 

shut the eff up.....aRB praising his RUNNIG BACK COACH about being in a better mindset and intilling confidence in him to turn his game around ahs nothing to do with being a qualified and experienced O.C at the prolevel...like get off the tugging dude....

1 minute ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Booch was wondering what jumping the shark meant earlier. I think we are seeing it in real time.

haha...yeah whatever...thats just a horrible hire/promotion/heirachy/structure...whatever you wanna call it.....and doing things backwards....but to each their own I guess....not a shocking move tho

[Super Duper Negatron]

Now, I'm not suggesting a guy with no OC experience at the pro level would get pushed around by Collaros, resulting in an offence tailored to Zach's wants/needs that is similar to or worse than last year's offense...

...oh no wait, I am.

[Booch]

3 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Now, I'm not suggesting a guy with no OC experience at the pro level would get pushed around by Collaros, resulting in an offence tailored to Zach's wants/needs that is similar to or worse than last year's offense...

...oh no wait, I am.

we laughed at the Rider OC hire last yr...who's laughing now

[Mike]

1 minute ago, Booch said:

we laughed at the Rider OC hire last yr...who's laughing now

I was going to mention that, especially because there’s one guy in particular in here who loves our hire but **** all over Mueller.

[Booch]

Just now, Mike said:

I was going to mention that, especially because there’s one guy in particular in here who loves our hire but **** all over Mueller.

i know....funny

[Colin Unger]

9 minutes ago, Mike said:

Like I said … that’s not the structure I would want. Do you typically let the more qualified people take a background role unless it’s a situation where they’ve got one foot in the grave already or something?

We did it last year on defence and it worked out well

3 minutes ago, Booch said:

we laughed at the Rider OC hire last yr...who's laughing now

They were laughed at more for being publicly rejected by and bunch of candidates. 

[Booch]

Just now, Colin Unger said:

We did it last year on defence and it worked out well

how so?..Younger was in total control of the defense....if you didnt notice by scheme and philosophy....not evenclose to the same thing...Hall was just here as a courtesy and to finish out his contract and us not having to eat the cost and let him go

[bigg jay]

4 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

We did it last year on defence and it worked out well

Not even close to the same situation and that was also a multi-year process of Younger working under Hall before taking over.

If we didn't promote Younger to DC, somebody else would have given him that opportunity.  How many other teams do you think would have willing to give Hogan this shot?

[Arnold_Palmer]

Im willing to give it a chance. There’s obviously going to be a lot of influence from Jarious. I like the way Jarious ran the offense last year and between him and Hogan I think you’ll see the run game be a focal point. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

You gotta be really sour to have your mind made up on this being a bad hire.

Keep in mind Buck Pierce hadn't called a play for a PeeWee team before he was given the OC job here.

You've got three experienced CFL coaches leading the offense.  Judgement on Hogan's scheme/play calling can come later.

[rebusrankin]

 Section S Hogan, whatever happened to that guy? He was a blast to watch.

Edited 18 hours ago by rebusrankin

[JuranBoldenRules]

8 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

Not even close to the same situation and that was also a multi-year process of Younger working under Hall before taking over.

If we didn't promote Younger to DC, somebody else would have given him that opportunity.  How many other teams do you think would have willing to give Hogan this shot?

And?

If they jumped off a bridge, would you?

[Booch]

7 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

Not even close to the same situation and that was also a multi-year process of Younger working under Hall before taking over.

If we didn't promote Younger to DC, somebody else would have given him that opportunity.  How many other teams do you think would have willing to give Hogan this shot?

St Vital Mustangs possibly

2 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Im willing to give it a chance. There’s obviously going to be a lot of influence from Jarious. I like the way Jarious ran the offense last year and between him and Hogan I think you’ll see the run game be a focal point. 

then why not give him the gig??...He arguably was at the helm of one the best...well rounded offences last yr....so have him take a back seat to a guy who has never done it at the pro level....and also havingto integrate a significant amount of new talent into it is just a poor decision....

[bryan35]

44 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

There is a ton of talent available. Go to the FA listings. Better than what we had? Such as who? Lawler's 800 yards last year? Haba and Garbutt's nothing....what exactly are you concerned about replacing? We effectively swapped Lawler for Schoen....that's a win in my books. Brought in Mitchell for Wilson....saw off....Vaughters for Haba/Garbutt....win for us. What has your **** in a bunch? You are so consumed with the JT resigning that you are not looking at the whole picture imo. It's kind of crazy because the one massive loss we took this offseason in Ford is the one you seem least concerned about.

"swapped Lawler for Schoen....that's a win in my books"....I would have preferred the opposite.

[Booch]

5 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

You gotta be really sour to have your mind made up on this being a bad hire.

Keep in mind Buck Pierce hadn't called a play for a PeeWee team before he was given the OC job here.

You've got three experienced CFL coaches leading the offense.  Judgement on Hogan's scheme/play calling can come later.

Buckworked under Lapop for how many years...and was also  common knowledge he had a hand in a lot of the play creation....played the game as well....and had more pro experience as a coach...again...a totally different situ

Edited 18 hours ago by Booch

[JuranBoldenRules]

31 minutes ago, Mike said:

Like I said … that’s not the structure I would want. Do you typically let the more qualified people take a background role unless it’s a situation where they’ve got one foot in the grave already or something?

Big assumptions though.  Hogan was coaching U Sports before Jackson even retired from playing.

Let the initial panic wear off because it's a name you don't recognize.