2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread

[Mike]

5 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

You gotta be really sour to have your mind made up on this being a bad hire.

Keep in mind Buck Pierce hadn't called a play for a PeeWee team before he was given the OC job here.

You've got three experienced CFL coaches leading the offense.  Judgement on Hogan's scheme/play calling can come later.

I hope he turns out to be amazing, this is just not the kind of question mark I wanted this year. 

[bryan35]

35 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Tough losing 640 yards for 300k and an oline ppl **** on most the year. 

We lacked a  big play/deep threat when he wasn't in the line up. 640 yards in 9.5 games. 16.1 yard average. Who will be his replacement?

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 minute ago, Mike said:

I hope he turns out to be amazing, this is just not the kind of question mark I wanted this year. 

Personally don't see how Mike Miller (the American coach who can't keep a job) or Jarious Jackson would be anything but.  I mean Jarious has had mostly terrible offenses as a playcaller.  Gets demoted and pushed back up to playcaller somewhere else, gets demoted again.  His only real good offense was last year with MBT and maaaaybe 2021 Toronto also with MBT, but really inconsistent.

That would be a question mark to me.  It's all question marks.  They have to retool the offense.

4 minutes ago, bryan35 said:

We lacked a  big play/deep threat when he wasn't in the line up. 640 yards in 9.5 games. 16.1 yard average. Who will be his replacement?

Mitchell is a deep threat.  Question for him is if he can develop much else.

[Bigblue204]

13 minutes ago, Booch said:

St Vital Mustangs possibly

Solid organization 

[Booch]

Just now, Bigblue204 said:

Solid organization 

indeed!

[blue85gold]

Hopeful that Hogan can bring some fresh ideas as a young coach.  He was the RB coach so he should know that the O needs to run through Brady and not have ZC just chuck it all day. 

Glad Jackson was added to bring another experience coach to the offense. 

[Colin Unger]

32 minutes ago, Booch said:

how so?..Younger was in total control of the defense....if you didnt notice by scheme and philosophy....not evenclose to the same thing...Hall was just here as a courtesy and to finish out his contract and us not having to eat the cost and let him go

What i mean by that is having a first time defensive co-ordinator while keeping an experience defensive co-ordinator as a part of the group for him to potentially lean on.   In this case we have a first time offensive co-ordinator and on his staff is an experience offensive co-ordinator. I'm not sure i understand your point in terms of the scheme and philosophy. Are you suggesting that Hogan won't be coming up with the offensive scheme?

[bb1]

Well all u bitchin about BO not getting the ball enough in the GC, that issue is fixed! 😉

[Booch]

1 minute ago, bb1 said:

Well all u bitchin about BO not getting the ball enough in the GC, that issue is fixed! 😉

yeah was gonna say....he will prob focus things around his boy BO which won't hurt

[sweep the leg]

21 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Solid organization 

Hate them lol. Coached against them for years.

[Arnold_Palmer]

1 minute ago, sweep the leg said:

Hate them lol. Coached against them for years.

My pops was the head coach for the mustangs midget team for  many years!

[bryan35]

6 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

My pops was the head coach for the mustangs midget team for  many years!

J.L. ?

[Bigblue204]

8 minutes ago, sweep the leg said:

Hate them lol. Coached against them for years.

haha yeah they usually have strong teams. I coached against them last year in the Atom division. They had a kid on defense that was just an absolute beast. We still won, but man that kid made it difficult.

[Arnold_Palmer]

6 minutes ago, bryan35 said:

J.L. ?

No CC I believe he was head coach from late 90’s to about 2008 they won a bunch of championships so he went to go coach high school ball for some new start up programs before retiring from coaching. 

[Atomic]

Hogan is a risky hire but by all accounts he's a solid guy with a great work ethic. Now we'll see if he can run an offence. I like that they've brought in Jarious for some experience to lean on.

[bryan35]

Just now, Arnold_Palmer said:

No CC I believe he was head coach from late 90’s to about 2008 they won a bunch of championships so he went to go coach high school ball for some new start up programs before retiring from coaching. 

JL was my head coach starting in mid 80's. Man I'm getting old.....

[rebusrankin]

The St Vital Mustangs run a great program. Dakota High School is benefiting from this big time.

[HardCoreBlue]

1 hour ago, Colin Unger said:

That’s the best picture of Hogan they could come up with. 

Exactly where my mind went. The only thing missing is the pick-up truck with the hockey stick holding up the Canadian Flag.

[Captain Blue]

I too just want to announce that I have absolutely extreme negative emotion about this OC hire, and I am basing it off the tiny percentage of his visible work that I am familiar with. 

In all seriousness I would have hired Jackson and am happy to have him as QBC. Hogan has been around and worked his way up. Anyone pretending to know exactly how it will work out, positive or negative, is hilarious. 

[sweep the leg]

5 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

The St Vital Mustangs run a great program. Dakota High School is benefiting from this big time.

They get most of the Falcons players as well. Both of their qbs last season came from that club.

[Fatty Liver]

32 minutes ago, Atomic said:

Hogan is a risky hire but by all accounts he's a solid guy with a great work ethic. Now we'll see if he can run an offence. I like that they've brought in Jarious for some experience to lean on.

Maybe Hogan is the coach that will occasionally put 2 RB's on the field at the same time, Logan and Brady with a side of Demski could do some serious damage.

[3rdand1.5]

A few cents from me.

 

I like Lawler but I don't think he is worth the rumored 275k..... 

I actually like the potential of our LB crew this year

I am concerned with D-line, I am guessing we have something more to this coming before TC

I feel we got solid value for Schoen, hopefully he is recovered

Losing Ford isn't great...but IMO in no way is he worth what Edm. paid him and we have at least what I believe to be still a very good defensive back end

Edm. went crazy.....call me crazy but I felt like they were coming around late last season, but they have cut and diced, and meal pieced so much over there, I will be shocked if they even look competitive for the first third of the season 

T. O is having a Grey Cup yard sale.....they lost alot....

Hogan is a......look it up, who is this guy.....but with JJ mentoring him I hope we see similar results as to what we did with Younger on defence...it's yet to be seen, but I will give it benefit of the doubt

I think we add one upper mid tier o-lineman, o-line must be priced up right now and waiting for a domino to fall

I do share some concern with the receiving core with Schoen's health is question, it's a bit thin...again I think we still sign a upper mid tier guy as the top tiers are all but "signed" somewhere 

Overall more change than we have seen, but maybe we needed more change than we have seen....

 

 

[GCn20]

2 hours ago, Mike said:

Because this is a Grey Cup season and I don’t want somebody learning on the fly while his much-more-qualified assistant waits in the wings.

Not the kind of structure I want, this doesn’t feel like the Younger promotion at all.

Yet the Younger hire was pretty much exactly the same thing. Highly regarded young coach with a highly respected older mentor off in the wings.  I was apprehensive last year when we demoted Hall and gave the reigns to Younger. That experience has me with much more of a wait and see attitude this year. I like that they brought in a mentor for Hogan to work along side him.

Edited 16 hours ago by GCn20

[rebusrankin]

On our WR group, are we discounting the fact that Wilson may not make it to camp with the Jets?

[GCn20]

Just now, rebusrankin said:

On our WR group, are we discounting the fact that Wilson may not make it to camp with the Jets?

I think at this point and time we have to do so, but I fully expect him to be back some time this season.