2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread

[Booch]

17 minutes ago, bluto said:

Are all of Edmonton's coaches at the end of their contracts? The management cap allows you to fire 1 guy and not count their salary against the cap. Every other coach would have their guaranteed contract on the cap.

Can they do a big reset?

Not sure what the former staff had for deals

[Fatty Liver]

3 hours ago, bigg jay said:

100%.

3DN has an article up about Charleston Hughes defending the Stamps organization after guys like Ka'Deem roasted them but even he says that those coaches were just fall guys.  Don't really buy his "bad blood from ex-players" excuse though because Parades also said the organization has gone downhill in the last 5 years and he's still with the club.

https://3downnation.com/2024/11/28/charleston-hughes-defends-calgary-stampeders-blames-ex-player-criticism-on-bad-blood/

Back in the day many of the same accusations would have been made about Cal Murphy and the way he ran the Bombers, if players were as brave and vocal as they are today.  It's the cheap, old school football mentality dragged out of the past they don't like, which was also the model for the NHL right up until the late 60's.  Unfortunately Hufnagel and the Stamps are still using it today, due to budget restrictions they're forced to live with by the negligent owner. 

 

 

[Noeller]

 

 

[wbbfan]

13 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

 

Extra job in Hamilton is interesting. I wonder if they offer Mac a similar snowbird role as he has here with a better title and payday. Could open the door for them to poach both Ted and Danny. 

[rebusrankin]

If they poach one, could we not offer a new title and more $ to the other?

[Fatty Liver]

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

Extra job in Hamilton is interesting. I wonder if they offer Mac a similar snowbird role as he has here with a better title and payday. Could open the door for them to poach both Ted and Danny. 

Unless they're offering quite a bit more money why would Danny leave for the same job?  Ti-Cats must be playing loose with the admin. cap to pay substantially higher wages to management than the Bombers are able to.

[SpeedFlex27]

6 hours ago, bigg jay said:

100%.

3DN has an article up about Charleston Hughes defending the Stamps organization after guys like Ka'Deem roasted them but even he says that those coaches were just fall guys.  Don't really buy his "bad blood from ex-players" excuse though because Parades also said the organization has gone downhill in the last 5 years and he's still with the club.

https://3downnation.com/2024/11/28/charleston-hughes-defends-calgary-stampeders-blames-ex-player-criticism-on-bad-blood/

Hufnagel still runs the Stamps, no question about it. He still calls the shots.

[Noeller]

 

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:

If they poach one, could we not offer a new title and more $ to the other?

They have the same ast gm title. Could be more money though. 

54 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Unless they're offering quite a bit more money why would Danny leave for the same job?  Ti-Cats must be playing loose with the admin. cap to pay substantially higher wages to management than the Bombers are able to.

they might since they are entirely reshaping the front office. The Hamilton connection, maybe he wants change, maybe they can offer more freedom especially if Ted leaves, might hire one of his guys as a scout under him etc. 

 I don’t think Danny will want to leave, but who knows it is possible. You don’t take interviews and stay in it for a week with out having interest. 

[Tracker]

3 hours ago, wbbfan said:

They have the same ast gm title. Could be more money though. 

they might since they are entirely reshaping the front office. The Hamilton connection, maybe he wants change, maybe they can offer more freedom especially if Ted leaves, might hire one of his guys as a scout under him etc. 

 I don’t think Danny will want to leave, but who knows it is possible. You don’t take interviews and stay in it for a week with out having interest. 

Not even if all expenses are paid?

[wbbfan]

4 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Not even if all expenses are paid?

Especially not for a guy like him who spends most of his time at home in the states, especially coming up from that beautiful weather into these storms. 
 He can pretty much come here for work paid as he pleases. Ham all expenses paid isn’t nicer than 20-30c and a drive from the beach. 
 Generally guys who aren’t really wanting the job but going through it for experience etc pull out in the first week after 1 interview trip. Staying in longer than that to pull out or decline is kind of looked down on. 

[Tracker]

14 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Especially not for a guy like him who spends most of his time at home in the states, especially coming up from that beautiful weather into these storms. 
 He can pretty much come here for work paid as he pleases. Ham all expenses paid isn’t nicer than 20-30c and a drive from the beach. 
 Generally guys who aren’t really wanting the job but going through it for experience etc pull out in the first week after 1 interview trip. Staying in longer than that to pull out or decline is kind of looked down on. 

Soooo....the West Edmonton mall is not enough of an attractant?

[Fatty Liver]

14 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Especially not for a guy like him who spends most of his time at home in the states, especially coming up from that beautiful weather into these storms. 
 He can pretty much come here for work paid as he pleases. Ham all expenses paid isn’t nicer than 20-30c and a drive from the beach. 
 Generally guys who aren’t really wanting the job but going through it for experience etc pull out in the first week after 1 interview trip. Staying in longer than that to pull out or decline is kind of looked down on. 

Really have to wonder about Danny's ties to Hamilton, it's been so long since he played there's nobody left including the previous owner and Pigskin Pete.

[bigg jay]

Looks like McManus is out of the running for GM in Hamilton. Does not even being a finalist reduce the chances of him being offered/accepting a similar role to what he's already doing here?

https://3downnation.com/2024/11/30/hamilton-tiger-cats-narrow-gm-decision-to-three-finalists-sources/

 

[Fatty Liver]

8 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

Looks like McManus is out of the running for GM in Hamilton. Does not even being a finalist reduce the chances of him being offered/accepting a similar role to what he's already doing here?

https://3downnation.com/2024/11/30/hamilton-tiger-cats-narrow-gm-decision-to-three-finalists-sources/

 

Interesting connection between Geroy and Milanovich.

"Simon played three seasons with Scott Milanovich, Hamilton’s head coach, as his quarterback at the University of Maryland from 1993 through 1995. His best campaign as a Terrapin came with Milanovich throwing him the football in 1994 as he made 77 receptions for 891 yards and five touchdowns in 11 games."

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, bigg jay said:

Looks like McManus is out of the running for GM in Hamilton. Does not even being a finalist reduce the chances of him being offered/accepting a similar role to what he's already doing here?

https://3downnation.com/2024/11/30/hamilton-tiger-cats-narrow-gm-decision-to-three-finalists-sources/

 

Maybe, or maybe not if Ted offers him a similar role with the same freedoms and more money. 

[Noeller]

 

 

 

 

[Arnold_Palmer]

27 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

 

 

 

I’m going to reserve judgment but man if you’re an Elks fan I would find it hard to be excited right now. 

[Noeller]

11 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

I’m going to reserve judgment but man if you’re an Elks fan I would find it hard to be excited right now. 

Except that a seemingly endless parade of former players have taken to social media saying what an incredible leader of men he is and how he's long overdue for this promotion. It almost sounds like the praise surrounding Osh when he first got hired here.... 

[bustamente]

I think this a great move by the Elks, get some new blood at HC. 

[Goalie]

Feels like When we hired Osh. Same kinda vibes there. 

[wbbfan]

41 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Except that a seemingly endless parade of former players have taken to social media saying what an incredible leader of men he is and how he's long overdue for this promotion. It almost sounds like the praise surrounding Osh when he first got hired here.... 

the same group of players has been torn on if the top half of the stamps them self are reputable or not. 
 Mos, was also a hof on the short list of best Canadian players of all time. 
 

A lot of the hiring of a hc is based on interviews, and how your own character check into their background goes. Not saying he’s a bad hire, not sure there is a hc I’d get really excited about bringing in for any team this year. 
 

But a project hc for a team that has been every shade of bad for many years is not encouraging. Especially when they were almost a play off team after the ejection of jones. 
 This move means another group that comes in and clears out old players and tries to start from scratch. Instead of building off what they had. 

3 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Feels like When we hired Osh. Same kinda vibes there. 

But also when claybrooks got his job imo. Every time an established co get a hc job people celebrate. 

[Booch]

1 hour ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

I’m going to reserve judgment but man if you’re an Elks fan I would find it hard to be excited right now. 

 

36 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

the same group of players has been torn on if the top half of the stamps them self are reputable or not. 
 Mos, was also a hof on the short list of best Canadian players of all time. 
 

A lot of the hiring of a hc is based on interviews, and how your own character check into their background goes. Not saying he’s a bad hire, not sure there is a hc I’d get really excited about bringing in for any team this year. 
 

But a project hc for a team that has been every shade of bad for many years is not encouraging. Especially when they were almost a play off team after the ejection of jones. 
 This move means another group that comes in and clears out old players and tries to start from scratch. Instead of building off what they had. 

But also when claybrooks got his job imo. Every time an established co get a hc job people celebrate. 

Exactly...no different than here...and Killam has way more coaching experience 

And by all accounts I aware of...he's highly regarded and respected by players...not just ST slugs...so he gets his shot now...as long as he no Claybrooks he will be fine...as long as as he has good people around him

[Mark H.]

As long has he puts his hat on straight - and doesn't lean forward the entire game 

[Goalie]

So BC or back to Winnipeg for Buck likely.