Brandon Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 3 hours ago, Goalie said: Who is out there? MBT? Easily a guy that would be a "Kevin Glenn" back up kind of guy. He is/was better then Kevin Glenn ever was. Noeller 1
Noeller Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 Just now, Brandon said: He is/was better then Kevin Glenn ever was. This is just patently false. CodyT, bearpants and HardCoreBlue 2 1
rebusrankin Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 MBT never had an MOP runner up season so let's go with he's no Kevin Glenn. CodyT, HardCoreBlue, Goalie and 1 other 1 2 1
Brandon Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, Noeller said: This is just patently false. Glenn was over rated, MBT might be over rated also. It's not hard to get nice stats when you have Charles Roberts and Milt Stegall doing all the leg work. Glenn was good at dumping the ball off, but faltered terribly if he had to put the team on his own back.
Fatty Liver Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, rebusrankin said: MBT never had an MOP runner up season so let's go with he's no Kevin Glenn. At this point in his career MBT is far more effective than Glenn was later in his career. Glenn bounced around alot but was not very good at winning games, he always came up short. bluto and Noeller 1 1
Noeller Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 There is some serious revisionist history going on here.... johnzo and CodyT 2
Brandon Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 That being said... with our current talent with Brady and "hopefully" Lawler.... I don't see why we can't have a safe gameplan that someone like Wilson could run where the ball gets into our star players hands and they make the big plays. Hand the damn ball off to Brady... if only they did this last Grey Cup Tracker and Piggy 1 2
Fatty Liver Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Noeller said: There is some serious revisionist history going on here.... It seems everything after his stint in Calgary was down hill for Glenn, remember his second stop with the Bombers when he didn't take a single snap?
HardCoreBlue Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: At this point in his career MBT is far more effective than Glenn was later in his career. Glenn bounced around alot but was not very good at winning games, he always came up short. Hated when he put on that pucky green color but c'mon man, always? Little bit more complex than how you're presenting it. johnzo 1
Bigblue204 Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, Noeller said: There is some serious revisionist history going on here.... Meh...it's probably a wash. Both are qb journeymen. I'm not sure if I just forgot about this, or never knew in the first place. But apparently in 2019 after Nichols went down the bombers tried to get Glenn out of retirement. But he declined. 2 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: It seems everything after his stint in Calgary was down hill for Glenn, remember his second stop with the Bombers when he didn't take a single snap? apparently he did. Stats say he was 2 for 4 for 16yrds. Fatty Liver 1
17to85 Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 Came up short... yeah best reason why people look down on Glenn... his physical stature. He was a good solid player. The OG game manager. CodyT, johnzo and HardCoreBlue 3
Bigblue204 Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 1 minute ago, HardCoreBlue said: Hated when he put on that pucky green color but c'mon man, always? Little bit more complex than how you're presenting it. not really. By the end of his career, that was his MO. Solid QB but not someone who is going to lead you to a GC victory.
Fatty Liver Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Bigblue204 said: Meh...it's probably a wash. Both are qb journeymen. I'm not sure if I just forgot about this, or never knew in the first place. But apparently in 2019 after Nichols went down the bombers tried to get Glenn out of retirement. But he declined. apparently he did. Stats say he was 2 for 4 for 16yrds. Imagine, Walters brings Glenn back and Collaros never signs and the streak is still alive! Ok, I knew he was close to nothing. Bigblue204 1
HardCoreBlue Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: not really. By the end of his career, that was his MO. Solid QB but not someone who is going to lead you to a GC victory. I'm looking at his full body of work as a whole, from start to finish, not just near the end of his career. With this lens to say he always fell short is debatable depending on the KPI's one is using.
17to85 Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: Imagine, Walters brings Glenn back and Collaros never signs and the streak is still alive! I think it's abundantly clear after the past few years that Zach collaros isn't the reason the drought ended. Thank Andrew Harris, thank the defense. Booch, Noeller, TBURGESS and 2 others 3 1 1
blue85gold Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 25 minutes ago, 17to85 said: I think it's abundantly clear after the past few years that Zach collaros isn't the reason the drought ended. Thank Andrew Harris, thank the defense. I mean you can just say he is one of the reasons we broke the drought. We weren't winning in 2019 with just Strev on one leg at QB. Noeller, rebusrankin and BigBlueFanatic 3
bearpants Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 32 minutes ago, 17to85 said: I think it's abundantly clear after the past few years that Zach collaros isn't the reason the drought ended. Thank Andrew Harris, thank the defense. That's because there's no one singular reason/player... he was one piece of the puzzle .... HardCoreBlue, Noeller and Bigblue204 2 1
Fatty Liver Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: I think it's abundantly clear after the past few years that Zach collaros isn't the reason the drought ended. Thank Andrew Harris, thank the defense. You think they're winning in 2019 and 2021 with Kevin Glenn? Highly unlikely but I guess anything is possible.
Bigblue204 Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said: I'm looking at his full body of work as a whole, from start to finish, not just near the end of his career. With this lens to say he always fell short is debatable depending on the KPI's one is using. sure. His full body of work will show you that he comes up short in almost every big game he's ever played in (in the CFL). 12 minutes ago, Noeller said: That's a solid amount. But with him and Rose on the DL they'll be very good.
TBURGESS Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 Without Collaros, we don't even make it to the first GC that we won. Bigblue204, Fatty Liver and rebusrankin 3
Sard Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 (edited) 3 hours ago, Fatty Liver said: You think they're winning in 2019 and 2021 with Kevin Glenn? Highly unlikely but I guess anything is possible. I think that if Kevin Glenn hadn't broken his arm back in the 2007 East Final, the drought would have ended 10 years earlier than it did. Edited January 16 by Sard changed year because I got it wrong BigBlueFanatic, HardCoreBlue and Bigblue204 2 1
rebusrankin Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 41 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: You think they're winning in 2019 and 2021 with Kevin Glenn? Highly unlikely but I guess anything is possible. I don't see us winning with a guy who was 40 and then 42, so I agree its unlikely. Bigblue204 1
Bigblue204 Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 38 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: Without Collaros, we don't even make it to the first GC that we won. agreed. That pass to Darvin Adams down the sideline just over top of Robertson was a thing of beauty! Noeller, johnzo, rebusrankin and 1 other 4
Noeller Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 10 minutes ago, Sard said: I think that if Kevin Glenn hadn't broken his arm back in the 2009 East Final, the drought would have ended 10 years earlier than it did. *07 Mark H., rebusrankin and Sard 2 1
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