2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread

[Fatty Liver]

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

Yeah but didn't 3 of the. Go to the team that hired the assistant gm from winnipeg? Hardly an unbiased source there. He presumably had a role in getting those guys to winnipeg and is bringing them in based on familiarity. I'd have liked having most of them back for camp competition,  but let's be honest those guys didn't move the needle enough on the DL last season. They are replaceable.

Yep, Fox had the opportunity to impress and he didn't do much with it, both Woods and Adams showed more than he did.

[Booch]

12 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I think that's way to harsh to say, I think a more tempered response is his greatest strengths as a coach can sometimes be his greatest weaknesses as a coach.

Please don't hurt me. 🙂

I respect your opinion...but that's truly not a good way to coach...and players trust me see it...and don't like it...but wouldn't say it publicly....to the media 

5 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Yeah but didn't 3 of the. Go to the team that hired the assistant gm from winnipeg? Hardly an unbiased source there. He presumably had a role in getting those guys to winnipeg and is bringing them in based on familiarity. I'd have liked having most of them back for camp competition,  but let's be honest those guys didn't move the needle enough on the DL last season. They are replaceable.

Yeah but everyone here raved how good he was as a talent scout...and yeah...he is...and sees value in guys if actually used accordingly. 

Nobody moved the needle tho..was that more the scheme they were made to play? And in what sane world would you have 3 ends on your roster...but run Jake out there at end?? Answer me that

 

[wbbfan]

15 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Last years bomber team offensively was a team that either had it that week or didn't and was pretty brutal.  For all the cash they spent on O it was terrible. They didn't have the ability to pull a rabbit out anymore like they used to.

Truth and had a hell of a time putting together back to back strong performances. 
 

10 minutes ago, Booch said:

Is that because of a QB issue and the QB not what he once was....are we in for more the same this yr and possibly even worse?...thats the question I have...A new OC...One who has never put together a pro offence...likely 3 new recievers he chucking to....getting used to a new oline config...a HC with a penchant for not playing the best available players (Hi Kolo)....I dont have super confident vibes right now

thats shittty coaching

all of our assumed to be expendable scrubs,....mediocre...no loss giys as we have upgraded them apparently sure got scooped up pretty quickly...Woli..Fox..Garbutt..Haba...

But wasn’t it just declared by some one that Haba Garbutt fox would disappear and get no further looks? 🙃

boy this is probably the most guys we’ve lost year to year in a decade. 
 A ton of our young guys have been scooped at every level of development. 

 

It’ll be really interesting to see how Hogan is going to run this offence. We’ve added a TON of dynamic quick/fast guys to the offence. Reggie white, Dillion Mitchell, and Peyton Logan in for Wilson, lawler and lucky. 
 

White schoen Demski Mitchell and big kev with Brady and a sub pack involving Logan gives us a tremendous new set of options. That makes us much better at stretching the field side line to side line and deep then we saw most all of last year. 

[Booch]

5 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Yep, Fox had the opportunity to impress and he didn't do much with it, both Woods and Adams showed more than he did.

Why did osh park Adams then and play fox to close out season and in playoffs?

Just now, wbbfan said:

Truth and had a hell of a time putting together back to back strong performances. 
 

But wasn’t it just declared by some one that Haba Garbutt fox would disappear and get no further looks? 🙃

boy this is probably the most guys we’ve lost year to year in a decade. 
 A ton of our young guys have been scooped at every level of development. 

 

It’ll be really interesting to see how Hogan is going to run this offence. We’ve added a TON of dynamic quick/fast guys to the offence. Reggie white, Dillion Mitchell, and Peyton Logan in for Wilson, lawler and lucky. 
 

White schoen Demski Mitchell and big kev with Brady and a sub pack involving Logan gives us a tremendous new set of options. That makes us much better at stretching the field side line to side line and deep then we saw most all of last year. 

Yup...never to be heard from I believe 

[wbbfan]

5 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Yep, Fox had the opportunity to impress and he didn't do much with it, both Woods and Adams showed more than he did.

Fox showed plenty well in very limited reps. Adam’s hit the wall hard late. 
 It really boils down to one ni spot, woods at the other, and adams brings tons more versatility than fox. He’s an upside guy and not as good a player as fox but he can play basically any role in the Dl you want. 

A DL of; Wj Lawson woods vaughters with adams as a di, then Jake plus one other ni dl isn’t some thing I’d be too mad at. 
 We could really use a strong rotational global/ni pass rusher ideally one who can rush from 3 tech, 4i and 5 in both fronts. And if that guy replaced Jake we’d be in a pretty good spot. 

[Noeller]

I have this image in my head of a little kid waking down a gravel road.... hands in his pockets, kicking rocks down the road, tears in his eyes and snot running down his nose...

"...stupid O'Shea...." 

[wbbfan]

41 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I have this image in my head of a little kid waking down a gravel road.... hands in his pockets, kicking rocks down the road, tears in his eyes and snot running down his nose...

"...stupid O'Shea...." 

funny the usual impression around here I get is a group of old guys in a retirement home.  Ones yelling at the burned out light for being too bright. A few are yelling at the kids for playing on their lawn. Ones staring at a nurse drooling. Another is yelling at the tv for not being loud enough, and most of the guys are rewatching the same old game on tv thinking it’s live. 

I feel like the youngest guy here is probably 30. 

[Pete]

Interesting that Hamilton has signed  7 players all but 1 ex bombers, and that one  is Stubblefield who we also had interest in. ( Hubert, Fox, Garbutt, Wolitarski, Dobson and Lawler))

[wbbfan]

7 minutes ago, Pete said:

Interesting that Hamilton has signed  7 players all but 1 ex bombers, and that one  is Stubblefield who we also had interest in. ( Hubert, Fox, Garbutt, Wolitarski, Dobson and Lawler))

Ted effect. I don’t think any one would’ve thought he’d grab way more than buck. 
 

That too is interesting. Buck hasn’t added any of our guys (as of yet.) I wonder if part of his piss poor performance last year, coming down etc involved not getting the kinds of pieces he wanted.  

[bearpants]

1 hour ago, WinnipegGordo said:

Lookie here.... another one to Hamilton 

 

 

So Hamilton is basically building our very below average DL from last year minus the only true difference maker… can’t say I’m too upset about that 

[wbbfan]

6 hours ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Yeah it might look slightly bad now because we’re used to success but remember the days when our best Canadian receiver was guys like Jamie Stoddard? Remember when we had American running backs like Nic Grigsby, and quarterbacks like Max Hall? Have premium Canadian players and a premium quarterback take up salary, are all three in a vacuum worth what they make? Well that’s debatable but to have a 1000 yard Canadian receiver, the most outstanding player in the league and Canadian at running back, and Zach who’s been one of the best for a long time I think it’s easy to remember where we came from. 

Demskis deal is a combination of things that aren’t his or the teams fault to be honest. He didn’t decide to stop using the jet motion, or make our 1/2 hurt most of the year. He looked like a Canadian 1/2 under those guys and looked like he was trending up. He didn’t even drop off as a pass catcher. The rest of his game drop off could be age, injuries his and others, usage etc. but he isn’t a wr 1. And now the market has crashed. It happens in other sports more, he’s one of the few here. 
 

Zach, is in a position where we paid him basically the most you can pay a qb in the cfl and still be competitive. He was a mop who could carry the team on signing it. Best qb in the league by a mile. 
 Now he’s no longer consistently top tier, possibly due to age/system/injuries/ surrounding talent.  Similar to Demski. But Zach was badly rusty to start last year took a long time to get ready and didn’t handle the adversity the way a mop elite qb needs to. 
 

Both could have career years this year. I could see a good bounce back from both if hogan runs a good system. I like some of the changes in weapons we have. And hope our ol will improve, I think it should be mid season form last year or better to start the year. 
 At this point we don’t have ways to spend that money better. 
imagine though, if we moved off both. And used that money on mbt/vaj, ceresna, and beard. 
 Which group makes the team better for the same money? My bet is hands down the 3. 
 

I think this has to be the last year we pay them a combined 830,000$. 

9 minutes ago, bearpants said:

So Hamilton is basically building our very below average DL from last year minus the only true difference maker… can’t say I’m too upset about that 

Below average performance because we had the worst performing dl in the league, who they didn’t take. 

[rebusrankin]

31 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

funny the usual impression around here I get is a group of old guys in a retirement home.  Ones yelling at the burned out light for being too bright. A few are yelling at the kids for playing on their lawn. Ones staring at a nurse drooling. Another is yelling at the tv for not being loud enough, and most of the guys are rewatching the same old game on tv thinking it’s live. 

I feel like the youngest guy here is probably 30. 

 

I disagree. This is from the last in person MBB meeting and I think we are group of young up and comers.

[wbbfan]

1 minute ago, rebusrankin said:

 

I disagree. This is from the last in person MBB meeting and I think we are group of young up and comers.

My bad, that group clearly has one more good game left in the tank. 

[17to85]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

but run Jake out there at end?? Answer me that

Yeah we know, you hate Jake Thomas. You've hated him forever. There were a brief couple years you begrudgingly gave him credit as serviceable but we know, you hate the guy and are letting his presence cloud your every view.

[Pete]

33 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Ted effect. I don’t think any one would’ve thought he’d grab way more than buck. 
 

That too is interesting. Buck hasn’t added any of our guys (as of yet.) I wonder if part of his piss poor performance last year, coming down etc involved not getting the kinds of pieces he wanted.  

just waiting for the Streveler signing, all that's left is Cole, Augustine Whitehead and Alexander Don't know if I've ever seen an ex gm/coach/scout raid his former club as obviously as Ted has

Edited 3 hours ago by Pete

[Goalie]

18 minutes ago, Pete said:

just waiting for the Streveler signing, all that's left is Cole, Augustine Whitehead and Alexander Don't know if I've ever seen an ex gm/coach/scout raid his former club as obviously as Ted has

With BLM Powell and Tuas Brother, don’t think that’s happening. It wouldn’t shock me if Streveler was done as a player.  It’s here or nowhere in my opinion with Streveler. And I’m not convinced they gonna bring him back here. I felt that way before they released his bro and best bud Woli and I feel that way even more after releasing him. Just don’t see the upside with Streveler anymore. 
 

BA and lucky seem like guys who will retire. I thought I read somewhere someone did sign Cole already. Maybe Hamilton even. Maybe not tho. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Goalie

[wbbfan]

21 minutes ago, Pete said:

just waiting for the Streveler signing, all that's left is Cole, Augustine Whitehead and Alexander Don't know if I've ever seen an ex gm/coach/scout raid his former club as obviously as Ted has

Not in remotely recent times. Dave Ritchie here, buono and the Don once or twice. Those 3 kinds had floating guys who would join them if they changed teams. 
 
I was thinking maybe Augustine, but I’d say that’s kinda low percentage. Strevy and the remains of luckys career I can’t see. I could see either in Hamilton tho lol. 

14 minutes ago, Goalie said:

With BLM Powell and Tuas Brother, don’t think that’s happening. It wouldn’t shock me if Streveler was done as a player.  It’s here or nowhere in my opinion with Streveler. And I’m not convinced they gonna bring him back here. I felt that way before they released his bro and best bud Woli and I feel that way even more after releasing him. Just don’t see the upside with Streveler anymore. 
 

BA and lucky seem like guys who will retire. I thought I read somewhere someone did sign Cole already. Maybe Hamilton even. Maybe not tho. 

Strevy will have a job as qb3, short yardage, holder, gimmick guy for as long as he wants. Dom Davis is still kicking around in that role. And poopkup too. Neither of whom is better than the average linemen at throwing the ball. 
 

Edmonton could be a sleeper pick. Calgary as well, maybe Montreal. Here is clearly the favorite though. The rest of the league is kind of a long shot. 

[Pete]

its interesting in looking at the stats of the two players that have reset the wr market Lewis and lawler

Lewis in 6 seasons has hit 1000 yds  only 3 times, average per season 1033

Lawler in 5 seasons has done it ONCE, averages 822 yds per season

In the past two seasons since the market reset. Hardy, Hollins, White and Begelton and surprise Demski have all had more receiving yards.

It just doesn't pay to invest in any one receiver the $ these two have and continue to make.

[Mike]

2 minutes ago, Pete said:

its interesting in looking at the stats of the two players that have reset the wr market Lewis and lawler

Lewis in 6 seasons has hit 1000 yds  only 3 times, average per season 1033

Lawler in 5 seasons has done it ONCE, averages 822 yds per season

In the past two seasons since the market reset. Hardy, Hollins, White and Begelton and surprise Demski have all had more receiving yards.

It just doesn't pay to invest in any one receiver the $ these two have and continue to make.

I do agree that the receiver position seems very fluid. Almost more about opportunity than anything. Curious to see who the next batch of guys is that enters the league this season, hoping one of them is a Bomber

[Goalie]

If we being honest receiver should be the easiest position to fill outside of probably running back but I like our local hero. 

[Piggy 1]

3 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

 

I disagree. This is from the last in person MBB meeting and I think we are group of young up and comers.

Which one is Goalie aka GNC 20??