2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread

[wbbfan]

43 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

VAJ has been traded twice for a 1st rounder so I'm guessing that may be the asking price - I don't think BC wants to take on much (if any) salary.  Edmonton has no 1st rounder to offer this year (used it to grab Zach Mathis in the last supplemental draft) so they may be behind the 8 ball there. 

Good points. Maybe edm offers a 2nd this year and a first next year, or maybe some one offers Extra picks contingent starts. 
 

3 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

What a sad ******* state of affairs for cfl quarterbacking when Vernon Adams is the hot sought after option...

Alexander is the better guy to get imo, but he’s a bit more of a project and less known. Hes this years Dru brown. 

[bigg jay]

Just now, 17to85 said:

What a sad ******* state of affairs for cfl quarterbacking when Vernon Adams is the hot sought after option...

Alexander is also up there but he's still less proven.  It's still a better group than last year though.  If Dolegala and Cornelius were 2 of the top 3 available, I don't know if it can get much worse?

https://3downnation.com/2024/01/28/2024-cfl-free-agent-rankings-quarterbacks/

[wbbfan]

7 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

Alexander is also up there but he's still less proven.  It's still a better group than last year though.  If Dolegala and Cornelius were 2 of the top 3 available, I don't know if it can get much worse?

https://3downnation.com/2024/01/28/2024-cfl-free-agent-rankings-quarterbacks/

Probably a great year to need a seasoned qb2 

[Booch]

7 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

Alexander is also up there but he's still less proven.  It's still a better group than last year though.  If Dolegala and Cornelius were 2 of the top 3 available, I don't know if it can get much worse?

https://3downnation.com/2024/01/28/2024-cfl-free-agent-rankings-quarterbacks/

I think we gonna be just fine grooming Wilson for future starter...Obviously we are tied to Collaros for next yr...be interesting to see how he performs....and if we are smart we get Wilson into a lot of games with either set packages/reps, and or in any blow-out winning or losing.....sooner than the last 2 mins like we apt to

 

[rebusrankin]

I'd like to see a guy like Taylor Powell as our #2  qb.

[HardCoreBlue]

4 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Probably a great year to need a seasoned qb2 

I know I'd appreciate if we went back to having a qb2 who is more than a short yardage specialist that you can incorporate him into your #1 offense to keep the D off balance but that's just me.  

[17to85]

1 minute ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I know I'd appreciate if we went back to having a qb2 who is more than a short yardage specialist that you can incorporate him into your #1 offense to keep the D off balance but that's just me.  

Agreed, we should get streveler back.

[Booch]

Just now, rebusrankin said:

I'd like to see a guy like Taylor Powell as our #2  qb.

Of the up and comers he passes the initial eye test the best in my pinion...and seems to have everything you want, and some poise....just need the shot

That being said for us I would even go the route of open competition in camp at QB with bringing all the guys back.

Who performs best...who gives the offence the most versatility and is hardest to scheme for starts Game 1....as we are paying ZC regardless so really does it matter who and how we use the QB stable? if that negates him to the bench as the back-up based on who win's out right.....how can that be a bad thing....plus you know if the QB1 out of camp stumbles you are more than ok with him coming in...and you would think highly motivated. If FIFO is as they say...they all starters....and are here because they give us a chance to win then nobody should have their panties in a twist.

 

2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Agreed, we should get streveler back.

I'm 100 percent certain he will be back....and If Buck is gone....even better

[Booch]

 

best news ever....now sign him up for 400k+ Oday....u clown

[HardCoreBlue]

17 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Agreed, we should get streveler back.

And when I say incorporate qb2, I don't mean decoy for the love of goodness.

[Fatty Liver]

41 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Probably a great year to need a seasoned qb2 

Arbuckle

Masoli

MBT

Maier

Ford

Streveler

Maybe add Fajardo to the list, rumour is Maas wants Cody back and Maciocia is pushing for Alexander to take over.

Not enough #1 jobs to go around, a few of these guys are going to have to accept a drop in expectations and pay to secure #2 jobs. I hope the Bombers rethink the "all eggs in one basket" strategy and seriously consider bringing in a security blanket to avoid reliving bad decisions, which in turn create bad memory scars that will last a lifetime. 

 

 

[Mark H.]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

..and if we are smart we get Wilson into a lot of games with either set packages/reps, and or in any blow-out winning or losing.....sooner than the last 2 mins like we apt to

Well, dreams are good, it's good to have dreams...

[greenrider55]

2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Good points. Maybe edm offers a 2nd this year and a first next year, or maybe some one offers Extra picks contingent starts. 
 

Alexander is the better guy to get imo, but he’s a bit more of a project and less known. Hes this years Dru brown. 

I think Alexander is going to be legit, seems to have the it factor that it takes to win. If MTL is smart they'll somehow dump CF and keep Alexander. CF's media tirade will be unbelievable.

[Booch]

1 hour ago, Mark H. said:

Well, dreams are good, it's good to have dreams...

yup....competent coaching and player/roster progression is definitely a dream here...totally agreee

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, greenrider55 said:

I think Alexander is going to be legit, seems to have the it factor that it takes to win. If MTL is smart they'll somehow dump CF and keep Alexander. CF's media tirade will be unbelievable.

Agree, that’s what I’d do. It’s always a gamble when you bet on a sophomore starting season with the qb. But he’s a guy I’d take the lumps with. I don’t think his down side can be much lower than cfs down side. 
 I don’t dislike cf, I followed him more than most (and still enjoyed the doink endings) but I just don’t think he’s a qb1 you build around. 
 

 

[greenrider55]

8 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Agree, that’s what I’d do. It’s always a gamble when you bet on a sophomore starting season with the qb. But he’s a guy I’d take the lumps with. I don’t think his down side can be much lower than cfs down side. 
 I don’t dislike cf, I followed him more than most (and still enjoyed the doink endings) but I just don’t think he’s a qb1 you build around. 
 

 

I used to love CF, but his personality wore off on me quite quickly.

In his defense I suppose, Craig Dickenson would be painful to work for/with.

[Brandon]

4 hours ago, Booch said:

 

best news ever....now sign him up for 400k+ Oday....u clown

I wonder had Harris played for us in the Grey Cup if the outcome would of been different.  Harris doesn't throw prayer and a wish deep throws...  he's vanilla but maybe vanilla may have been a better shot then  just chucking and praying.  

[SpeedFlex27]

4 minutes ago, Brandon said:

I wonder had Harris played for us in the Grey Cup if the outcome would of been different.  Harris doesn't throw prayer and a wish deep throws...  he's vanilla but maybe vanilla may have been a better shot then  just chucking and praying.  

Why are we worrying about Trevor Harris for? Maybe if he played for us, his "vanilla" would have prevented us from going to the Grey Cup.

[Booch]

6 minutes ago, Brandon said:

I wonder had Harris played for us in the Grey Cup if the outcome would of been different.  Harris doesn't throw prayer and a wish deep throws...  he's vanilla but maybe vanilla may have been a better shot then  just chucking and praying.  

i bet loony toony MBT could have....sadly lol

[SpeedFlex27]

46 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Agree, that’s what I’d do. It’s always a gamble when you bet on a sophomore starting season with the qb. But he’s a guy I’d take the lumps with. I don’t think his down side can be much lower than cfs down side. 
 I don’t dislike cf, I followed him more than most (and still enjoyed the doink endings) but I just don’t think he’s a qb1 you build around. 
 

 

In fajardo's defense, there are qbs who go their whole career without getting to or winning a championship. Dieter Brock being among them. 

3 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

Arbuckle

Masoli

MBT

Maier

Ford

Streveler

Maybe add Fajardo to the list, rumour is Maas wants Cody back and Maciocia is pushing for Alexander to take over.

Not enough #1 jobs to go around, a few of these guys are going to have to accept a drop in expectations and pay to secure #2 jobs. I hope the Bombers rethink the "all eggs in one basket" strategy and seriously consider bringing in a security blanket to avoid reliving bad decisions, which in turn create bad memory scars that will last a lifetime. 

 

 

You forgot another sleeper who was hurt most of last season..... Taylor Powell. He'd be #2 behind Davis Alexander on my "Get List" if I was Kyle Walters. 

[bigg jay]

29 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

You forgot another sleeper who was hurt most of last season..... Taylor Powell. He'd be #2 behind Davis Alexander on my "Get List" if I was Kyle Walters. 

Looks like Powell is under contract for next year.  He's not listed as a pending FA.

https://3downnation.com/2024/11/11/the-hamilton-tiger-cats-potential-2025-free-agent-list/

[SpeedFlex27]

On 2024-11-21 at 11:27 AM, bigg jay said:

Most important part to us in that article is:

 

Why are posters here giving that a thumbs up??? That's brutal if we lose Buck, Goveia & McManus. 

[greenrider55]

36 minutes ago, Booch said:

i bet loony toony MBT could have....sadly lol

His viking ancestors told him he wasn't allowed to play that day!

[Brandon]

37 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Why are we worrying about Trevor Harris for? Maybe if he played for us, his "vanilla" would have prevented us from going to the Grey Cup.

I am not worrying,    I'm saying that average QB play may have gave us the win.  Zach in the Grey Cup has played extremely sub par over the last few appearences.    Reminder... he was outplayed by Cody Fajardo and Nick Arbuckle... that's not good.   

The question is... was it Zach's play that got us to the big game?  I'm not so sure... I know if we had lost Brady that it would of been the difference between going to the cup or not.    I'm curious to see how a  different veteran qb would play on our team.  Because I think our o-line isn't as bad as people have said... the receivers are above average and the rb play is outstanding.     Maybe it is all coaching?  That also is TBD. 

[SpeedFlex27]

1 minute ago, Brandon said:

I am not worrying,    I'm saying that average QB play may have gave us the win.  Zach in the Grey Cup has played extremely sub par over the last few appearences.    Reminder... he was outplayed by Cody Fajardo and Nick Arbuckle... that's not good.   

The question is... was it Zach's play that got us to the big game?  I'm not so sure... I know if we had lost Brady that it would of been the difference between going to the cup or not.    I'm curious to see how a  different veteran qb would play on our team.  Because I think our o-line isn't as bad as people have said... the receivers are above average and the rb play is outstanding.     Maybe it is all coaching?  That also is TBD. 

A lot of it is coaching & roster management.  In other words, our HC.