2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread

[Booch]

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

useage will be important, as much for opening up other opportunities in the scheme. Brady isn't the threat out side logan is, so the classic fb dive hb toss type thing we have seen maybe 2-3 times in the past is a good basis. As well as subbing logan for the jet sweep that demski stopped running last year. 

I think Logan likely subs in for the last imp wr in sets where we have both backs in play. Logan can still run some routes and is a big catch+run threat any way. 

I don't think MCI will get as many reps or the ball. I think his offensive reps will laregely be blocking in heavy set unless we lose a string of ni pass catchers. Or unless MCI takes some massive leap forward as a ball carrier. How he looks in camp running the ball is one of the biggest things I'm waiting to see. Won't see too much of the scheme on open days. So it's mostly how MCI runs, if kev/gabe took a stepforward, if zach can throw with out a finger falling off, if strevy is being decisive and throwing with authority or allowed to do those things, who moves around in the secondary, and who steps up in the front 6.  

I hope we dont basically waste MCI by just making him another Feltmate...as thats what I see occuring

The fact that you can bring a big bodied guy in that has ultra athleticism you gotta find ways to disguise his use from just crashing down off the edge...every play.....you could in all practicality use any player for soley just that role....my as well find a Canadian Armed forces guy to do it instead of burning a valuable DI spot on and American one all yr like we did...lol...I kidding here but u know what I mean...If your "end" is a threat to take a pass...toss....it helps that jumbo short yardage package even more as he needs to be accounted for

We used to be unique...use sneaky plays...obscure rules....took chances...what happened to that...since we have become pedestrian vanilla/predictable in a lot of in game situations...we have gone 0-3 in GreyCups....

[wbbfan]

23 minutes ago, Booch said:

yeah wasnt attacking u by any means...was adding to what u said...and agree....prob will get limited....hope he doesnt....he shouldn't

as  @wbbfan brought up...how we structure our roster we have limited DI options...tho maybe with a solid draft and a switch with not being so concrete in what we do position wise we can better use our DI's

Also a more liberal use of our Nationalized Americans we can off-set our limited roster flexibility

As much as I like what Castillo can do...I hate burning a DI in that spot...we should be doing whatever it takes to nationalize that spot....Punter too....I have no issue with a Global there and not better using one as a quality rotational piece if said Punter was head and shoulders one the best in the league.....and he far from that

yeah its really hard to burn a DI on a k, plus a global on a P. We should work on developing a K again that is G or Ni and who can do all the jobs. In the mean time we should also give the P job to sergio too.

19 minutes ago, Booch said:

I hope we dont basically waste MCI by just making him another Feltmate...as thats what I see occuring

The fact that you can bring a big bodied guy in that has ultra athleticism you gotta find ways to disguise his use from just crashing down off the edge...every play.....you could in all practicality use any player for soley just that role....my as well find a Canadian Armed forces guy to do it instead of burning a valuable DI spot on and American one all yr like we did...lol...I kidding here but u know what I mean...If your "end" is a threat to take a pass...toss....it helps that jumbo short yardage package even more as he needs to be accounted for

We used to be unique...use sneaky plays...obscure rules....took chances...what happened to that...since we have become pedestrian vanilla/predictable in a lot of in game situations...we have gone 0-3 in GreyCups....

I like that he has a high floor, but I hope we don't give up on his high ceiling as well. I hope he was working his butt off in the off season on running and catching drills. 

I hope we see a heavy dose of him carrying the rock in camp and PS this year. 

[Booch]

25 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

yeah its really hard to burn a DI on a k, plus a global on a P. We should work on developing a K again that is G or Ni and who can do all the jobs. In the mean time we should also give the P job to sergio too.

I like that he has a high floor, but I hope we don't give up on his high ceiling as well. I hope he was working his butt off in the off season on running and catching drills. 

I hope we see a heavy dose of him carrying the rock in camp and PS this year. 

yup...agreed....from lack of reps at the collegiate level as a ball carrier he got too upright and needs to rediscover his pad levels again....I think he can do it

I don't project him as a bell cow by any means...his body type...ala Dickerson...among others are just not 3 down ball carriers anymore...Unless you could create a Marcus Dupree again in a lab

His athleticism and strength...and his speed there no reason he cant be a 400 yard on the ground and 300 to 400 in passing in a type of hybrid role tho....as well as key in the Jumbo packages and play teams

[Mark H.]

32 minutes ago, Booch said:

His athleticism and strength...and his speed there no reason he cant be a 400 yard on the ground and 300 to 400 in passing in a type of hybrid role tho....as well as key in the Jumbo packages and play teams

I'd love to see a Durie type on the Bombers 

[Fatty Liver]

33 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

I'd love to see a Durie type on the Bombers 

Durie was a 5'8" 180 lb slotback that ran the ball quite well, more like a Demski/Dressler cross, don't think MCI could ever fit in the same category, he runs like he has heavy feet.  

[SpeedFlex27]

2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

yeah its really hard to burn a DI on a k, plus a global on a P. We should work on developing a K again that is G or Ni and who can do all the jobs. In the mean time we should also give the P job to sergio too.

 

The problem with developing a Canadian kicker is the 1 year deals. We have a Canadian on the roster & say we develop him. One day he replaces Castillo. Then the Canadian kicker's contract is up & he goes on the tour of NFL camps for a season or 2. Like Lirim Hajrullahu, he never comes back to the Bombers as he ultimately signs as a CFL FA elsewhere. To get him back, then we overpay. And that goes for virtually every position. It's hard to develop talent when they can & will be poached as free agents. The 1 year deals are a scourge that need to be eliminated. 

Looks like our Aussie punter is coming back. Oh joy. 

Edited 1 hour ago by SpeedFlex27

[wbbfan]

Just now, SpeedFlex27 said:

The problem with developing a Canadian kicker is the 1 year deals. We have a Canadian on the roster & say we develop him. One day he replaces Castillo. Then the Canadian kicker's contract is up & he goes on the tour of NFL camps for a season or 2. Like Lirim Hajrullahu, he never comes back to the Bombers as he ultimately signs as a CFL FA elsewhere. To get him back, then we overpay. And that goes for virtually every position. It's hard to develop talent when they can & will be poached as free agents. The 1 year deals are a scourge that need to be eliminated. 

The talent gap between a top 1/3 cfl p/k and even the bottom tier in the nfl is gigantic now. Legs has been hitting about 90% the last two years with out a sniff. 
 We can and do sign guys to longer. 
 

If any thing, the problem is a lack of talent at the position these days. 
 I’d also settle for a global who can do both jobs, but the leg talent up side is much higher there. 

[SpeedFlex27]

33 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

The talent gap between a top 1/3 cfl p/k and even the bottom tier in the nfl is gigantic now. Legs has been hitting about 90% the last two years with out a sniff. 
 We can and do sign guys to longer. 
 

If any thing, the problem is a lack of talent at the position these days. 
 I’d also settle for a global who can do both jobs, but the leg talent up side is much higher there. 

I think we have to concentrate on the best player at every position within the ratios. If a Kicker is a great one like Castillo, then really have no problem with it. However, if we waste a DI spot on a subpar punter like Sheahan, then yeah, we need to change. I'm hopeful we draft a punter out of U Sport but it looks like we won't. Osh & Walters seem happy with Sheahan. The Bombers, flush full of cash just do not want to spend on an area of need anywhere. They're happy with mediocre at positions like Center, DT & Punter. 

Edited 1 hour ago by SpeedFlex27

[Fatty Liver]

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

The problem with developing a Canadian kicker is the 1 year deals. We have a Canadian on the roster & say we develop him. One day he replaces Castillo. Then the Canadian kicker's contract is up & he goes on the tour of NFL camps for a season or 2. Like Lirim Hajrullahu, he never comes back to the Bombers as he ultimately signs as a CFL FA elsewhere. To get him back, then we overpay. And that goes for virtually every position. It's hard to develop talent when they can & will be poached as free agents. The 1 year deals are a scourge that need to be eliminated. 

Looks like our Aussie punter is coming back. Oh joy. 

Lirim left after his second season with the Bombers when they picked up Medlock in FA in 2016.  He was literally booed out of the city for having a few really bad late season games, I'd be surprised if he ever wanted to play in Wpg. again after that.