Bombers @ Argos - GDT

[Brandon]

Say what you want about Burke but you cant say this team did not come to play.  I see a lot of determination, grit and fire.  Players are swarming to the ball.  I see no quit in them.

 

Ricky Ray setting a record for most yards,  also setting a record for consecutive completions for an Argo at 21.....  I don't think the team completely came out to play....

[iso_55]

Offense came out & played but our defense didn't.

[billfrank]

So much for the benefits of a veteran secondary.

Although it didn't help that we spent most of the game rushing 4, who got very little pressure (Mainor in particular is useless), leaving a hall of fame QB limitless time to pick apart our D.

[RagingIce]

Offense played well enough to win, but the defence certainly didn't.

[Noeller]

I sincerely don't think the D was *THAT* bad.......Frito is THAT good.......

[RagingIce]

I sincerely don't think the D was *THAT* bad.......Frito is THAT good.......

 

I dunno, at least 2 of those TDs, the receiver was wide open (like 10 yards wide open)

[iso_55]

That touchdown to Owens that was called back he was wide open. Then a couple of plays later Romby Bryant was wide open. The 61 yard TD pass to Inman... Not a great night for the defense.

[JuranBoldenRules]

 

I sincerely don't think the D was *THAT* bad.......Frito is THAT good.......

 

I dunno, at least 2 of those TDs, the receiver was wide open (like 10 yards wide open)

 

 

Banjo wasn't working.  They were getting all tied up on who was supposed to take the inside or outside routes, that's what the Argos were exploiting.  Really should have flipped to a more passive zone and force Ray to make a throw.

[Mr. Perfect]

 

 

I sincerely don't think the D was *THAT* bad.......Frito is THAT good.......

 

I dunno, at least 2 of those TDs, the receiver was wide open (like 10 yards wide open)

 

 

Banjo wasn't working.  They were getting all tied up on who was supposed to take the inside or outside routes, that's what the Argos were exploiting.  Really should have flipped to a more passive zone and force Ray to make a throw.

 

If you really think that would have worked, clearly you were playing zero attention to what happened when the Argos were at IGF back in July.

[JuranBoldenRules]

I sincerely don't think the D was *THAT* bad.......Frito is THAT good.......

 

No QB is that good.

[BigBlue]

Start the firings with whoever decided to wear gold pants with gold jerseys.

When was the last time we won a game when we wore gold plus gold?

 

Does anybody know?

[Mr Dee]

Defensive breakdowns no doubt, but anybody who doesn't think R Ray is a master of throwing the ball is not seeing properly.

The guy has an awesome touch and when he is on, he is deadly.

Say what you want about rushing or blitzing but when he's in the zone, he is untouchable.

And that last call for  a TorontoTD...masterful call on a 2nd down. He had time to throw on a double move on B Stewart. And just try to defend that one alone.

IMO, R Ray beats anyone tonight.

[Blueandgold]

Our secondary reminded me of the 2005 team...

[JuranBoldenRules]

 

 

 

I sincerely don't think the D was *THAT* bad.......Frito is THAT good.......

 

I dunno, at least 2 of those TDs, the receiver was wide open (like 10 yards wide open)

 

 

Banjo wasn't working.  They were getting all tied up on who was supposed to take the inside or outside routes, that's what the Argos were exploiting.  Really should have flipped to a more passive zone and force Ray to make a throw.

 

If you really think that would have worked, clearly you were playing zero attention to what happened when the Argos were at IGF back in July.

 

 

Same as tonight.  They shred man and match coverages with the waggle and clearing routes.  They try to stem the half on an inside route and then break it out, if the half or corner take the wrong route in that match coverage, Ray has a receiver all by himself.  The other issue are the underneath routes, the DB's are afraid to jump them because they are worried about Ray hitting those routes over the top, or being too aggressive and the receiver turning a 4 yard route into a 50 yard play.   It's unbelievably simple but well executed.  Need to change the looks given by the defence.  Milanovich has done a real nice job of bringing that Trestman offence to Toronto where you force the D to make a choice and then kill them with the other option.  It's all one read, often pre-snap, just like Calvillo.  You need to change the looks so that first read doesn't give Ray an easy throw and you can beat it.  Burke had it down pretty good against Calvillo as a co-ordinator.

[Mr Dee]

Two year-ends in a row, Wallace Miles shows some good hands and makes plays for his QB. He's gotta stick around.

[blueandgoldguy]

Well  that game should assure at least 2 or 3 of the Bombers' secondary and Casey Creehan lose their jobs at the end of the season.  Can't believe there was a few people in the other Bomber forum who thought Casey Creehan should keep his job because of a few supposedly "good" performances by the D.  Good?  More like the offense for the opposing teams just happened to be struggling at the time.  D is back to its normal crappy self.

[The Unknown Poster]

Wait wait wait. Boltus has been in the CFL for FOUR years????? Holy cow. Can we please put him in a big box and send him somewhere far away?

[Brandon]

Wait wait wait. Boltus has been in the CFL for FOUR years????? Holy cow. Can we please put him in a big box and send him somewhere far away?

 

Might as well bring back Brink ... at least Brink was good in short yardage...

[comedygeek]

In the history of my time watching the game of football, I've never seen a "short yardage specialist" so terrible at gaining short yardage.

The fact that the Bombers bother to bring in Boltus at all in those scenarios shows their ineptitude right there. Even if you argue that Goltz is in the dog house and there's no way he'd come in, they'd be better off doing a direct snap to Fitzgerald and hoping for the best in that scenario!

[17to85]

I sincerely don't think the D was *THAT* bad.......Frito is THAT good.......

It was definitely a bit of both. The D did well to keep the argos out of the endzone more but there were times when the coverage was real sloppy too. Ray was Ray, he just wasn't missing and doing his infallible robot throwing machine thing. 

[bluto]

 

 

 

 

I sincerely don't think the D was *THAT* bad.......Frito is THAT good.......

 

I dunno, at least 2 of those TDs, the receiver was wide open (like 10 yards wide open)

 

 

Banjo wasn't working.  They were getting all tied up on who was supposed to take the inside or outside routes, that's what the Argos were exploiting.  Really should have flipped to a more passive zone and force Ray to make a throw.

 

If you really think that would have worked, clearly you were playing zero attention to what happened when the Argos were at IGF back in July.

 

 

Same as tonight.  They shred man and match coverages with the waggle and clearing routes.  They try to stem the half on an inside route and then break it out, if the half or corner take the wrong route in that match coverage, Ray has a receiver all by himself.  The other issue are the underneath routes, the DB's are afraid to jump them because they are worried about Ray hitting those routes over the top, or being too aggressive and the receiver turning a 4 yard route into a 50 yard play.   It's unbelievably simple but well executed.  Need to change the looks given by the defence.  Milanovich has done a real nice job of bringing that Trestman offence to Toronto where you force the D to make a choice and then kill them with the other option.  It's all one read, often pre-snap, just like Calvillo.  You need to change the looks so that first read doesn't give Ray an easy throw and you can beat it.  Burke had it down pretty good against Calvillo as a co-ordinator.

 

 

that. elegantly stated. that's 3 times in 24 hours i've agreed with and/or quoted you... weird.

[The Unknown Poster]

Can someone please call the coaches show and ask them wtf the deal is with boltus and short yardage? I could gain one yard with my dink and this clown can't?

[17to85]

Can someone please call the coaches show and ask them wtf the deal is with boltus and short yardage? I could gain one yard with my dink and this clown can't?

Bellefool looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooves Boltus and Timmy hates Goltz now. 

[iso_55]

 

Can someone please call the coaches show and ask them wtf the deal is with boltus and short yardage? I could gain one yard with my dink and this clown can't?

Bellefool looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooves Boltus and Timmy hates Goltz now. 

 

Bob says if Boltus starts & Goltz sits he'll ask Burke that very question on the Coaches Show. (Minus the Dink & Clown act).

[Mr Dee]

OK, I give kudos to Bellefeuille for improving Denmark's route running and I'll give him some points for moving our offensive plays in a positive direction, but I can't believe he, or any one of the personnel involved with the Offence can look us in the eye and tell us short yardage is better with Boltus.

Only one more game to suffer the fools.