sweep the leg Posted November 5, 2013 Report Posted November 5, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 7:52 PM, Mike said: On 2013-11-05 at 7:22 PM, BigBlue said: Ottawa has said they won't pick Fa's but they might do one like Collloras or Muamba just for negotiating rights till Feb 15 .... so who are not FA's? I am guessing the non-FA number two QBs available are: Nichols Montreal's other two (besides Smith who they will protect I believe) Marsh or Neiswander Hamilton's scat back QB LeFevour Willie Either Tate or Levi DeMarco So who is worth trading for and with how big a draft pick? Willy and Demarco are free agents, Burris is a free agent and I would imagine Hamilton will use that to protect Dan LF, Bo Levi will be protected by Calgary and I'm pretty sure Nichols is also a FA Are you sure on Demarco? I thought he wasn't. Of all the years to desperately need a qb, we couldn't have asked for a better offseason for choices.
M.O.A.B. Posted November 5, 2013 Report Posted November 5, 2013 i thought Collaros is an FA too this off-season ?
Logan007 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Posted November 5, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 9:31 PM, M.O.A.B. said: i thought Collaros is an FA too this off-season ? He is, same as Reilly was last season. But the thinking is we do the same thing Edmonton did with Reilly and get him over so we can work on signing him to a multi year deal.
Brandon Posted November 5, 2013 Report Posted November 5, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 9:31 PM, M.O.A.B. said: i thought Collaros is an FA too this off-season ? He is
BigBlue Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Posted November 5, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 7:52 PM, Mike said: On 2013-11-05 at 7:22 PM, BigBlue said: Ottawa has said they won't pick Fa's but they might do one like Collloras or Muamba just for negotiating rights till Feb 15 .... so who are not FA's? I am guessing the non-FA number two QBs available are: Nichols Montreal's other two (besides Smith who they will protect I believe) Marsh or Neiswander Hamilton's scat back QB LeFevour Willie Either Tate or Levi DeMarco So who is worth trading for and with how big a draft pick? Willy and Demarco are free agents, Burris is a free agent and I would imagine Hamilton will use that to protect Dan LF, Bo Levi will be protected by Calgary and I'm pretty sure Nichols is also a FA I can't ever remember so many QBs all FA at once …. doesn't give Ottawa much to pick from especially if we trade for Tate bluto 1
Mike Posted November 5, 2013 Report Posted November 5, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 9:44 PM, BigBlue said: On 2013-11-05 at 7:52 PM, Mike said: On 2013-11-05 at 7:22 PM, BigBlue said: Ottawa has said they won't pick Fa's but they might do one like Collloras or Muamba just for negotiating rights till Feb 15 .... so who are not FA's? I am guessing the non-FA number two QBs available are: Nichols Montreal's other two (besides Smith who they will protect I believe) Marsh or Neiswander Hamilton's scat back QB LeFevour Willie Either Tate or Levi DeMarco So who is worth trading for and with how big a draft pick? Willy and Demarco are free agents, Burris is a free agent and I would imagine Hamilton will use that to protect Dan LF, Bo Levi will be protected by Calgary and I'm pretty sure Nichols is also a FA I can't ever remember so many QBs all FA at once …. doesn't give Ottawa much to pick from especially if we trade for Tate I honestly believe anyone who thinks Ottawa isn't going to draft a FA QB if that's THEIR guy is out of touch with reality.
bluto Posted November 5, 2013 Report Posted November 5, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 9:44 PM, BigBlue said: On 2013-11-05 at 7:52 PM, Mike said: On 2013-11-05 at 7:22 PM, BigBlue said: Ottawa has said they won't pick Fa's but they might do one like Collloras or Muamba just for negotiating rights till Feb 15 .... so who are not FA's? I am guessing the non-FA number two QBs available are: Nichols Montreal's other two (besides Smith who they will protect I believe) Marsh or Neiswander Hamilton's scat back QB LeFevour Willie Either Tate or Levi DeMarco So who is worth trading for and with how big a draft pick? Willy and Demarco are free agents, Burris is a free agent and I would imagine Hamilton will use that to protect Dan LF, Bo Levi will be protected by Calgary and I'm pretty sure Nichols is also a FA I can't ever remember so many QBs all FA at once …. doesn't give Ottawa much to pick from especially if we trade for Tate didn't "like" your post because i agreed with you... in fact, i doubt the WBBs go anywhere near Tate as a first option QB... i "like"d it because chimp in a suit with shades.
17to85 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Posted November 5, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 9:45 PM, Mike said: I honestly believe anyone who thinks Ottawa isn't going to draft a FA QB if that's THEIR guy is out of touch with reality. I think Ottawa would rather have access to the NIs quite personally. I think there are enough options at qb that depending on who is available if they don't take a qb off someones roster they will trust in the ability to get a FA qb. Hell I think if Austin really is on the outs with Burris that he's the guy Ottawa will be targetting simply because he's a big name they can easily market.
Brandon Posted November 5, 2013 Report Posted November 5, 2013 Ottawa has lots of options and as I said before Glenn is an easy pick up for them.
bluto Posted November 5, 2013 Report Posted November 5, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 10:16 PM, 17to85 said: On 2013-11-05 at 9:45 PM, Mike said: I honestly believe anyone who thinks Ottawa isn't going to draft a FA QB if that's THEIR guy is out of touch with reality. I think Ottawa would rather have access to the NIs quite personally. I think there are enough options at qb that depending on who is available if they don't take a qb off someones roster they will trust in the ability to get a FA qb. Hell I think if Austin really is on the outs with Burris that he's the guy Ottawa will be targetting simply because he's a big name they can easily market. i get that having the sort of access to NIs that the league is giving the Redblacks is a once in a lifetime opportunity... but the only thing in our league more important than NI depth is having a top QB. so as Mike says... if Ottawa's powers-that-be have identified one QB as "their guy", then they must obtain him at the expense of all else.
17to85 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Posted November 5, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 10:29 PM, bluto said: On 2013-11-05 at 10:16 PM, 17to85 said: On 2013-11-05 at 9:45 PM, Mike said: I honestly believe anyone who thinks Ottawa isn't going to draft a FA QB if that's THEIR guy is out of touch with reality. I think Ottawa would rather have access to the NIs quite personally. I think there are enough options at qb that depending on who is available if they don't take a qb off someones roster they will trust in the ability to get a FA qb. Hell I think if Austin really is on the outs with Burris that he's the guy Ottawa will be targetting simply because he's a big name they can easily market. i get that having the sort of access to NIs that the league is giving the Redblacks is a once in a lifetime opportunity... but the only thing in our league more important than NI depth is having a top QB. so as Mike says... if Ottawa's powers-that-be have identified one QB as "their guy", then they must obtain him at the expense of all else. and I just think there's enough options they'd be happy with that they will opt to have their pick of what NIs are available rather than going for a qb.
BigBlue Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Posted November 5, 2013 So there is no need to dump a QB to the Blue because Ottawa isn't going to select any QB IN THE EXPANSION DRAFT ... NOT EVEN TATE HAVING TATE ISN'T WORTH THE SALARY CAP ROOM HE TAKES UP AND / OR A 3RD ROUND DRAFT PICK?
gbill2004 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Posted November 5, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 11:22 PM, BigBlue said: So there is no need to dump a QB to the Blue because Ottawa isn't going to select any QB IN THE EXPANSION DRAFT ... NOT EVEN TATE HAVING TATE ISN'T WORTH THE SALARY CAP ROOM HE TAKES UP OR A 3RD ROUND DRAFT PICK? Pretty sure Ottawa will take Kevin Glenn in the expansion draft.
BigBlue Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Posted November 5, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 11:24 PM, gbill2004 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:22 PM, BigBlue said: So there is no need to dump a QB to the Blue because Ottawa isn't going to select any QB IN THE EXPANSION DRAFT ... NOT EVEN TATE HAVING TATE ISN'T WORTH THE SALARY CAP ROOM HE TAKES UP OR A 3RD ROUND DRAFT PICK? Pretty sure Ottawa will take Kevin Glenn in the expansion draft. Glenn is a FA ... why would they?
gbill2004 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Posted November 5, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 11:27 PM, BigBlue said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:24 PM, gbill2004 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:22 PM, BigBlue said: So there is no need to dump a QB to the Blue because Ottawa isn't going to select any QB IN THE EXPANSION DRAFT ... NOT EVEN TATE HAVING TATE ISN'T WORTH THE SALARY CAP ROOM HE TAKES UP OR A 3RD ROUND DRAFT PICK? Pretty sure Ottawa will take Kevin Glenn in the expansion draft. Glenn is a FA ... why would they? Glenn is NOT a free agent.
Brandon Posted November 5, 2013 Report Posted November 5, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 11:28 PM, gbill2004 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:27 PM, BigBlue said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:24 PM, gbill2004 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:22 PM, BigBlue said: So there is no need to dump a QB to the Blue because Ottawa isn't going to select any QB IN THE EXPANSION DRAFT ... NOT EVEN TATE HAVING TATE ISN'T WORTH THE SALARY CAP ROOM HE TAKES UP OR A 3RD ROUND DRAFT PICK? Pretty sure Ottawa will take Kevin Glenn in the expansion draft. Glenn is a FA ... why would they?Glenn is NOT a free agent. Ron Burgundy says NO!!! I think Burris and Glenn are good interim qbs for them. Ottawa will have much qb depth no matter what way they go then the Blue has had in the last many years.
BigBlue Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Posted November 5, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 11:40 PM, Brandon said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:28 PM, gbill2004 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:27 PM, BigBlue said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:24 PM, gbill2004 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:22 PM, BigBlue said: So there is no need to dump a QB to the Blue because Ottawa isn't going to select any QB IN THE EXPANSION DRAFT ... NOT EVEN TATE HAVING TATE ISN'T WORTH THE SALARY CAP ROOM HE TAKES UP OR A 3RD ROUND DRAFT PICK? Pretty sure Ottawa will take Kevin Glenn in the expansion draft.Glenn is a FA ... why would they?Glenn is NOT a free agent. Ron Burgundy says NO!!! I think Burris and Glenn are good interim qbs for them. Ottawa will have much qb depth no matter what way they go then the Blue has had in the last many years. How can we find out for sure about whose contracts are about to expire?
Mike Posted November 6, 2013 Report Posted November 6, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 11:53 PM, BigBlue said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:40 PM, Brandon said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:28 PM, gbill2004 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:27 PM, BigBlue said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:24 PM, gbill2004 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:22 PM, BigBlue said: So there is no need to dump a QB to the Blue because Ottawa isn't going to select any QB IN THE EXPANSION DRAFT ... NOT EVEN TATE HAVING TATE ISN'T WORTH THE SALARY CAP ROOM HE TAKES UP OR A 3RD ROUND DRAFT PICK? Pretty sure Ottawa will take Kevin Glenn in the expansion draft.Glenn is a FA ... why would they?Glenn is NOT a free agent. Ron Burgundy says NO!!!I think Burris and Glenn are good interim qbs for them. Ottawa will have much qb depth no matter what way they go then the Blue has had in the last many years. How can we find out for sure about whose contracts are about to expire? For whatever reason it's not made public. We just find out through various news articles, etc.
BigBlue Posted November 6, 2013 Author Report Posted November 6, 2013 On 2013-11-06 at 12:05 AM, Mike said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:53 PM, BigBlue said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:40 PM, Brandon said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:28 PM, gbill2004 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:27 PM, BigBlue said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:24 PM, gbill2004 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:22 PM, BigBlue said: So there is no need to dump a QB to the Blue because Ottawa isn't going to select any QB IN THE EXPANSION DRAFT ... NOT EVEN TATE HAVING TATE ISN'T WORTH THE SALARY CAP ROOM HE TAKES UP OR A 3RD ROUND DRAFT PICK? Pretty sure Ottawa will take Kevin Glenn in the expansion draft.Glenn is a FA ... why would they?Glenn is NOT a free agent. Ron Burgundy says NO!!!I think Burris and Glenn are good interim qbs for them. Ottawa will have much qb depth no matter what way they go then the Blue has had in the last many years. How can we find out for sure about whose contracts are about to expire? For whatever reason it's not made public. We just find out through various news articles, etc. So Burgundy has the goods then?
iso_55 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Posted November 6, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 11:53 PM, BigBlue said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:40 PM, Brandon said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:28 PM, gbill2004 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:27 PM, BigBlue said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:24 PM, gbill2004 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:22 PM, BigBlue said: So there is no need to dump a QB to the Blue because Ottawa isn't going to select any QB IN THE EXPANSION DRAFT ... NOT EVEN TATE HAVING TATE ISN'T WORTH THE SALARY CAP ROOM HE TAKES UP OR A 3RD ROUND DRAFT PICK? Pretty sure Ottawa will take Kevin Glenn in the expansion draft.Glenn is a FA ... why would they?Glenn is NOT a free agent. Ron Burgundy says NO!!! I think Burris and Glenn are good interim qbs for them. Ottawa will have much qb depth no matter what way they go then the Blue has had in the last many years. How can we find out for sure about whose contracts are about to expire? Glenn has another year on his contract.
Captain Blue Posted November 6, 2013 Report Posted November 6, 2013 Just do what it takes to get a promising QB here. We can continue to play it safe and all that...or we can be aggressive and try and find a QB.
TrueBlue Posted November 6, 2013 Report Posted November 6, 2013 On 2013-11-05 at 11:22 PM, BigBlue said: So there is no need to dump a QB to the Blue because Ottawa isn't going to select any QB IN THE EXPANSION DRAFT ... NOT EVEN TATE HAVING TATE ISN'T WORTH THE SALARY CAP ROOM HE TAKES UP AND / OR A 3RD ROUND DRAFT PICK? There's no need to get Tate. I can't see any sequence of events that can happen this offseason where we would have to settle for him. Not with what other options are/will be available to us.
iso_55 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Posted November 6, 2013 If Tate could ever get his head on straight & stop being a headcase, I think he'd be a helluva CFL qb. The big thing is IF.
Jacquie Posted November 6, 2013 Report Posted November 6, 2013 On 2013-11-06 at 12:11 AM, iso_55 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:53 PM, BigBlue said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:40 PM, Brandon said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:28 PM, gbill2004 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:27 PM, BigBlue said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:24 PM, gbill2004 said: On 2013-11-05 at 11:22 PM, BigBlue said: So there is no need to dump a QB to the Blue because Ottawa isn't going to select any QB IN THE EXPANSION DRAFT ... NOT EVEN TATE HAVING TATE ISN'T WORTH THE SALARY CAP ROOM HE TAKES UP OR A 3RD ROUND DRAFT PICK? Pretty sure Ottawa will take Kevin Glenn in the expansion draft.Glenn is a FA ... why would they?Glenn is NOT a free agent. Ron Burgundy says NO!!! I think Burris and Glenn are good interim qbs for them. Ottawa will have much qb depth no matter what way they go then the Blue has had in the last many years. How can we find out for sure about whose contracts are about to expire? Glenn has another year on his contract. Yup. Glenn and Tate both have a year and Mitchell has 2 according to the Calgary Herald. Quote To correct misinformation swirling out there, all three Stampeder quarterbacks are under contract for the 2014 season. Bo Levi Mitchell’s deal runs through the 2015 campaign. http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Point+After+Edmonton+treatment+franchise+quarterback+Mike+Reilly+puzzling/9008908/story.html Atomic 1
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