The Unknown Poster Posted July 28, 2013 Report Posted July 28, 2013 WEC almost single handedly killed the Jets. How Barry Shenk managed to keep them here as long as he did is testament to his dedication. WEC ran the arena. Jets had to pay rent and WEC got all revenue generated at true arena and parking. Plus concerts etc. it was a joke. I don't believe TN contractually runs all concerts. I think it's just a business relationship where they choose to hold stadium concerts at the stadium and rent it or whatever. iso_55 1
iso_55 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Posted July 28, 2013 Yes, forgot to mention that. A real bone of contention. The Jets got no additional revenue when they needed it.
DR. CFL Posted July 28, 2013 Report Posted July 28, 2013 Unknown....you should check the agreement that gives TN event rights of a certain size within the city limits. That was one of the reasons for the Headingly stadium sight to circumvent that clause.
road griller Posted July 28, 2013 Report Posted July 28, 2013 Drove by the old stadium yesterday. Looks like there is about 6k in seating still up. Section S(nake) as well. Should be enough to seat everyone who wants to watch this team. Maybe they can move back and sell the new place on Kijiji?
Brandon Posted August 1, 2013 Author Report Posted August 1, 2013 So 5 games in they make the right qb move... I wonder if Burke or crowton w will be next?
iso_55 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Posted August 1, 2013 Today was the day. If the Bombers get blown out in BC then expect even bigger things to happen.
rebusrankin Posted August 1, 2013 Report Posted August 1, 2013 I can see the following happening during August: 1. JJ is cut before Labour Day due to poor play and to save money on the SMS. 2. Swiston replace Morley on the offensive line. 3. If healthy, Douglas replaces Boatman on the offensive line leading to #4. 4. Shannon Boatman cut. 5. Receiver (likely Dennmark) is let go.
The Unknown Poster Posted August 1, 2013 Report Posted August 1, 2013 Unknown....you should check the agreement that gives TN event rights of a certain size within the city limits. That was one of the reasons for the Headingly stadium sight to circumvent that clause. Are you sure? My understanding is the issue in question was no public dollars could be invested in a covered entertainment venue of a certain size. Thats why any talk of a roof on the new stadium was a non-starter. And I distinctly remember it being said if the Stadium was 100% private dollars, they could put a dome on it if they wanted to. You can't force private business to adhere to an agreement between TN and the GOM. It would be subject to anti-competition laws. Im sure the agreement was specifically relating to public dollars. But while we're on this subject, can the GOM turn over the Bombers to TN? Keep the Stadium since TN wont go anywhere near that $200 M debt. It's small potatoes for TN and there is little to know real estate development linked to the new Stadium due to it being on Campus, but we need to get rid of this do-nothing board that hired a salesman to be CEO over-seeing football decisions, hired a GM who had been out of the CFL for decades etc etc.
iso_55 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Posted August 1, 2013 You look at all that land behind the stadium that was the old golf course now lying there unused. First thing I think of is a parking lot for a couple thousand cars to ease the parking problem at the U of M. I can't see Bomber fans being happy about having to be bussed to the games for the next 40 years. I can also see the streets being widened around the stadium in the years to come. All in good time.
pigseye Posted August 1, 2013 Report Posted August 1, 2013 I can see the following happening during August: 1. JJ is cut before Labour Day due to poor play and to save money on the SMS. 2. Swiston replace Morley on the offensive line. 3. If healthy, Douglas replaces Boatman on the offensive line leading to #4. 4. Shannon Boatman cut. 5. Receiver (likely Dennmark) is let go. Money is the only thing driving this organization, if they can justify saving salary you can bet veterans will be released before their salaries become guaranteed.
iso_55 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Posted August 1, 2013 Money is the only thing driving this organization, if they can justify saving salary you can bet veterans will be released before their salaries become guaranteed. Being cheap is why they're in this position in the first place & have been for years.
pigseye Posted August 1, 2013 Report Posted August 1, 2013 Being cheap is why they're in this position in the first place & have been for years. Absolutely, which is why they get no sympathy from me. All the problems are their own doing from trying to shave a nickel here or there and it just ends up costing them in the long run. This whole situation could have been avoided last off season by simply hiring an assistant for Crowten to begin with.
NotoriousBIG Posted August 1, 2013 Report Posted August 1, 2013 I can see the following happening during August: 1. JJ is cut before Labour Day due to poor play and to save money on the SMS. 2. Swiston replace Morley on the offensive line. 3. If healthy, Douglas replaces Boatman on the offensive line leading to #4. 4. Shannon Boatman cut. 5. Receiver (likely Dennmark) is let go. Not sure if Denmark will get cut -- may try to trade him first. I suspect Crowton is next -- but Mack knows this is his last year. He may want to really shake things up.
iso_55 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Posted August 1, 2013 Burke with his, "I don't know anything about offense" quote really set this team up for failure. By not being involved in the offense & letting Crowton run the show himself. Then, in the off season not willing to bring in a qb coach to help out. If you look around the CFL, there's Jason Maas in TO, Jarious Jackson in BC, Cortez working with the veteran Durant & backup Willy in Saskatchewan, Huff & Dickenson in Calgary. All those teams are doing well. The ones struggling are Hamilton even though Austin is an ex CFL Grey Cup winning qb, he's the HC & has a lot on his table, Montreal, Edmonton & Winnipeg. No guys on those teams to work with their qbs & voila, they all suck. Definetly a correlation.
The Unknown Poster Posted August 1, 2013 Report Posted August 1, 2013 Perhaps Burke intends Buck to be his man on the offence side of the ball. Let him know if crowton is as clueless as he seems The land behind the stadium was mentioned. Not sure what the u of m has planned but I'd sell that to True North in a deal for them to take over operations of the team. Real estate development is their big thing right now. For sure they need a parking lot for 5000 cars. I believe they are planning a dedicated transit loop there too. Creating new ingress and egress for the campus would be nice and some housing and retail development.
SmokinBlue Posted August 1, 2013 Report Posted August 1, 2013 That would be an epic mistake, let a pissed off ex starting QB coach the guy that just took him over, especially when the ex QB looks like hte stinks at reading defenses and reacting to tendencies to begin with.
iso_55 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Posted August 1, 2013 Perhaps Burke intends Buck to be his man on the offence side of the ball. Let him know if crowton is as clueless as he seems The land behind the stadium was mentioned. Not sure what the u of m has planned but I'd sell that to True North in a deal for them to take over operations of the team. Real estate development is their big thing right now. For sure they need a parking lot for 5000 cars. I believe they are planning a dedicated transit loop there too. Creating new ingress and egress for the campus would be nice and some housing and retail development. A parking lot is badly needed. A retail, business, condos & apartment development is a badly needed component as well to bring in much needed revenues to the university. Out here in Calgary, the U of C is getting involved in this. With provincial governments cutting back funding, it only makes sense.
Brandon Posted August 9, 2013 Author Report Posted August 9, 2013 Well looks like it was under my guess...glad they made a move and it'll be better if buck was released also to give rest to the qb spot.
Jacquie Posted August 10, 2013 Report Posted August 10, 2013 Well looks like it was under my guess...glad they made a move and it'll be better if buck was released also to give rest to the qb spot. I guess you haven't seen the reports that Crowton allegedly went to Mack about starting Goltz and that Mack then forced Burke to make the change. If that's true, do you think Buck will be gone?
Brandon Posted August 10, 2013 Author Report Posted August 10, 2013 If Buck starts again then Burke has then lost his job at the end of this year. Absolutely nobody wants Buck to start and thinks that he should
GCn20 Posted August 10, 2013 Report Posted August 10, 2013 If Buck starts again then Burke has then lost his job at the end of this year. Absolutely nobody wants Buck to start and thinks that he should I have a feeling that a big part of Mack's firing was his meddling with the coaches. I don't think there is an appetite at the board level for this to be a rebuilding year under Goltz. I have a feeling that we will see Buck again because Miller will give Burke a mandate of win right now. pigseye 1
Brandon Posted August 10, 2013 Author Report Posted August 10, 2013 We've had the mandate to win for the last few years, this is why Buck had been starting despite getting injured all of the time.
GCn20 Posted August 10, 2013 Report Posted August 10, 2013 We've had the mandate to win for the last few years, this is why Buck had been starting despite getting injured all of the time. Ok..that's true enough, let me put it another way. Miller will tell Burke that losing will not be tolerated under any circumstances and that the grooming the next QB excuse will not save his job if the losses mount. Although, we all know this was the card that Mack was hoping to play not Burke. Burke will try to save his job and he will go back to Buck.
Brandon Posted August 11, 2013 Author Report Posted August 11, 2013 Ok..that's true enough, let me put it another way. Miller will tell Burke that losing will not be tolerated under any circumstances and that the grooming the next QB excuse will not save his job if the losses mount. Although, we all know this was the card that Mack was hoping to play not Burke. Burke will try to save his job and he will go back to Buck. But Burke has been doing this all along, Mack wanted Buck gone, coaching staff wanted Buck to stay because he gave then the beat chance to win. Coaching staff wanted Elliott gone. If Burke wanted what was best for the club he would of had Elliott or Goltz be our starter and let them get more experience in game action. The only time anyone aside pierce got any playing time was when Buck would get hurt. So this whole must win now mandate has been going on since they traded Jules.
Jacquie Posted August 11, 2013 Report Posted August 11, 2013 But Burke has been doing this all along, Mack wanted Buck gone, coaching staff wanted Buck to stay It's debatable whether it was the coaching staff or Burke given that there are reports that Crowton went to Mack to force Burke to start Goltz.
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