Stubler New Stamps Defensive Coordinator

[SPuDS]

Cream

[Logan007]

Pancakes

[iso_55]

 

Perhaps sometimes self preservation out weighs what some might consider as an occupational challenge.

Perhaps being old and lazy means take a smaller paycheque to do less work.. Im not too downtrodden we didnt land him after l said and done.. Sure sounds like he doesnt have the heart or drive to rebuild but the desire to captain something already ready to go..

 

So,let me understand this... He'd be a great addition if he came here but is old & lazy because he turned down the Bombers? C'mon SPuDs. Stubler is not lazy. Wanting to stay closer to home doesn't make him lazy. He had a choice & he made it. Someone already said the Bombers dug their own huge hole because of mediocrity & failure & are now trying to climb out of it to gain respectability & I agree. The best coaches won't come here until we show that we are on the road to becoming a first class organization. It's going to take awhile to get rid of the rotten stigma the Bomber have. 

[Mr Dee]

There is no lazy, there is no stigma for Stubler.

He, and his wife , discussed the matter thoroughly, and they both came to her decision to stay closer to home.

[SPuDS]

Hey you guys see it one way, i see it as a guy taking a smaller paycheque to do less work. I truly thought Stubler was a "challenge" guy who would want to to be here and begin the overhaul process but turns out I was incorrect..

[iso_55]

It's not laziness. He has a chance to coach Keon Raymond, Juwan Simpson, DeMonte Bolden, Charleston Hughes & a bunch of other great players on defense. He is on a winning team, an instant GC contender. He doesn't have that in Winnipeg. If he comes here, he could be fired in a year's time. I'll say it again, the Bombers outside of Winnipeg are looked upon as an organization with not a lot of talent that is in turmoil. The best coaches won't come here until we turn things around on the field.

[17to85]

Bottom line is that Winnipeg is known as a place with no stability so coaches are less likely to go here because job security matters. Stubler can go to Calgary and know that the only way he won't be back is if he does a crappy job. He comes to Winnipeg he knows that everyone might all get fired next season because that's all Winnipeg has done is fire coaches. It really is as simple as that. 

[iso_55]

It is disappointing but it is what it is.

[iso_55]

When we do get good, I hope we have a **** You attitude to the rest of the league... I'm looking for a lot of payback. Actually to be dicks about it.

[Logan007]

Hey you guys see it one way, i see it as a guy taking a smaller paycheque to do less work. I truly thought Stubler was a "challenge" guy who would want to to be here and begin the overhaul process but turns out I was incorrect..

Aren't you one of the ones that keeps telling people to stop assuming and making up theories or is that just Mr. Dee?

 

Seriously, why would you come here and freeze your ass off millions of miles away from your family instead of going to Calgary where you're near your family and the totally awesome mountains?  The guy probably has grandkids.  And if so, ain't no way grandma is going to let grandpa move them that far away from them.

[Armchair GM]

 

Sometimes we seem snake bit. It is frustrating...

 

Yea frustrating for sure. Our organization dug this hole though so it shouldn't be unexpected. Some people are going to be attracted by the challenge ahead and some will run away from it kicking and screaming. I thought Stubler's comments were very telling. He is a guy who obviously does not have the energy or commitment to put in the long days, weeks, or months necessary to accomplish the task our team has before them. I'm glad he didn't come here and then Rod Rust us.

I was very disappointed when he turned us down but the more I read his interviews and comments the more I think we may have dodged a bullet.

 

 

The thing about Stubler is that he's got the resume to choose his job; so with multiple opportunities and Winnipeg being among the heaviest of lifts, it doesn't shock me.  The more telling thing about Stubler is that he's taking on the lesser of the challenges with Calgary's opportunity basically being turn-key.  Translation: he's basically out to protect his good name in coaching, and because he's walking into a place that is already winning.

 

We need a guy who relishes the opportunity to make some changes and put his stamp on a winning defence.  That could be a young "up-and-comer" like Miles (my choice), or it could be a "stung-and-looking-for-redemption" Marshall.  I don't think either type would be bad for us, and that both would be better than a guy comfortable in his own skin like it appears Stubler is.

[Mr Dee]

 

Hey you guys see it one way, i see it as a guy taking a smaller paycheque to do less work. I truly thought Stubler was a "challenge" guy who would want to to be here and begin the overhaul process but turns out I was incorrect..

Aren't you one of the ones that keeps telling people to stop assuming and making up theories or is that just Mr. Dee?

Seriously, why would you come here and freeze your ass off millions of miles away from your family instead of going to Calgary where you're near your family and the totally awesome mountains?  

 

There you go  again, assuming things and/or making up theories, for the millionth time.

And that's a just Mister Mr. Dee, if you don't mind.

[Logan007]

 

 

Hey you guys see it one way, i see it as a guy taking a smaller paycheque to do less work. I truly thought Stubler was a "challenge" guy who would want to to be here and begin the overhaul process but turns out I was incorrect..

Aren't you one of the ones that keeps telling people to stop assuming and making up theories or is that just Mr. Dee?

Seriously, why would you come here and freeze your ass off millions of miles away from your family instead of going to Calgary where you're near your family and the totally awesome mountains?  

 

There you go  again, assuming things and/or making up theories, for the millionth time.

And that's a just Mister Mr. Dee, if you don't mind.

 

Oh I DO mind.  How DARE you assume that I don't mind!

[Mr Dee]

A simple case of...

Mind

Matter

[Logan007]

Matter of fact, the case is not so simple.

[kelownabomberfan]

It's not laziness. He has a chance to coach Keon Raymond, Juwan Simpson, DeMonte Bolden, Charleston Hughes & a bunch of other great players on defense. He is on a winning team, an instant GC contender. He doesn't have that in Winnipeg. If he comes here, he could be fired in a year's time. I'll say it again, the Bombers outside of Winnipeg are looked upon as an organization with not a lot of talent that is in turmoil. The best coaches won't come here until we turn things around on the field.

Kind of a catch 22 then eh?

[SPuDS]

Sometimes we seem snake bit. It is frustrating...

Yea frustrating for sure. Our organization dug this hole though so it shouldn't be unexpected. Some people are going to be attracted by the challenge ahead and some will run away from it kicking and screaming. I thought Stubler's comments were very telling. He is a guy who obviously does not have the energy or commitment to put in the long days, weeks, or months necessary to accomplish the task our team has before them. I'm glad he didn't come here and then Rod Rust us.

I was very disappointed when he turned us down but the more I read his interviews and comments the more I think we may have dodged a bullet.

The thing about Stubler is that he's got the resume to choose his job; so with multiple opportunities and Winnipeg being among the heaviest of lifts, it doesn't shock me. The more telling thing about Stubler is that he's taking on the lesser of the challenges with Calgary's opportunity basically being turn-key. Translation: he's basically out to protect his good name in coaching, and because he's walking into a place that is already winning.

We need a guy who relishes the opportunity to make some changes and put his stamp on a winning defence. That could be a young "up-and-comer" like Miles (my choice), or it could be a "stung-and-looking-for-redemption" Marshall. I don't think either type would be bad for us, and that both would be better than a guy comfortable in his own skin like it appears Stubler is.

Sweet jeebus thank you! I have been trying to express this exact sentiment but struggling mightily to get it to sink in..

But i agree 100%.. Minus marshall.. Icky lol

[Floyd]

I love how you can actually watch this thread go from 'Stublers awesome' when we thought he was our new DC... to Stubler's 'fat and sucks'.

[DR. CFL]

Nothing wrong with a person making a sound career decision. Make the wrong choice and it can follow you around. Scott Arniel goes to a bad team in Columbus and bingo. Way back when Mike Riley went to the Chargers as HC and that was a nightmare. It's like people who criticized some people who didn't care to interview for th a bomber HC job. Ultimately you have to do what you think is a sound move and not just jump on something that may not be in your or your family's best interest. It is disappointing when "fans"can't respect that.

[Logan007]

I love how you can actually watch this thread go from 'Stublers awesome' when we thought he was our new DC... to Stubler's 'fat and sucks'.

And lazy. Don't forget about how lazy he is for not coming here.

[SPuDS]

I love how you can actually watch this thread go from 'Stublers awesome' when we thought he was our new DC... to Stubler's 'fat and sucks'.

And lazy. Don't forget about how lazy he is for not coming here.

Reading comprehension for the fail? Less hard work required = easy route. Easy route = lazy. Capiche?

[Logan007]

 

 

I love how you can actually watch this thread go from 'Stublers awesome' when we thought he was our new DC... to Stubler's 'fat and sucks'.

And lazy. Don't forget about how lazy he is for not coming here.

Reading comprehension for the fail? Less hard work required = easy route. Easy route = lazy. Capiche?

First, it's spelled capisce.

 

Second, I wouldn't call any DC position in this league easy.  The only reason you think we had a bad defence and that coming here is the "hard route" is because we had a **** DC here that had no idea what to do with a defence.  And for whatever reason the great and mighty Burke didn't seem to be helping him at all.  Calling a 60+ year old lazy for wanting to stay close to his family is just absurd.

[iso_55]

The Bomber organization has been a joke for years. So, let's call a spade a spade. Why would a good coach want to come here to bury his career? Look what happened to Craig Dickenson one of the best ST coaches in the business when he came here last season. SPuDs, Good thing for him he has a great reputation or maybe he never works in the CFL again. Stubler had a choice & he took it. Quit being so bitter about a coach who didn't want to come here. Instead turn your bitterness towards the Board of Directors of the team who are a joke, who meddle, interfere & have run this team into the ground with bad hires for years with their utter cluelessness. Until that changes, good coaches aren't going to want to come here. Stubler can pick any team he wants. For family reasons, he chose Calgary.

[SPuDS]

I love how you can actually watch this thread go from 'Stublers awesome' when we thought he was our new DC... to Stubler's 'fat and sucks'.

And lazy. Don't forget about how lazy he is for not coming here.

Reading comprehension for the fail? Less hard work required = easy route. Easy route = lazy. Capiche?

First, it's spelled capisce.

Second, I wouldn't call any DC position in this league easy. The only reason you think we had a bad defence and that coming here is the "hard route" is because we had a **** DC here that had no idea what to do with a defence. And for whatever reason the great and mighty Burke didn't seem to be helping him at all. Calling a 60+ year old lazy for wanting to stay close to his family is just absurd.

Almost as absurd as your ire as to me daring to call a guy who took less money, to do less work, to require less travel time, to require less roster tinkering, to run essentially a turn-let defense, lazy.. Whatever bud.

[SPuDS]

The Bomber organization has been a joke for years. So, let's call a spade a spade. Why would a good coach want to come here to bury his career? Look what happened to Craig Dickenson one of the best ST coaches in the business when he came here last season. SPuDs, Good thing for him he has a great reputation or maybe he never works in the CFL again. Stubler had a choice & he took it. Quit being so bitter about a coach who didn't want to come here. Instead turn your bitterness towards the Board of Directors of the team who are a joke, who meddle, interfere & have run this team into the ground with bad hires for years with their utter cluelessness. Until that changes, good coaches aren't going to want to come here. Stubler can pick any team he wants. For family reasons, he chose Calgary.

Ok first off there is no doubt in my mind Dickinson, if not here's would find a gig elsewhere easily. He didn't bury his career here at all so that comment is simply asinine. Next, the bomber organization is such a mess that 2 of the league best and brightest upcoming head coach candidates CHOSE to come here and take on the challenge of bringing us back to respectability.. No one held a gun to Burkes head or this season to O'Sheas..

And finally, im not bitter in the least about Stubler going to Calgary. I wasn't a huge fan of him coming here other then his experience to be a boon to the lack of it currently.. Never was a fan of his defenses to be honest. After seeing Durant shred his defense in the biggest game of the year AND thinking about BC not really trying to retain him I think we truly dodged a bullet. He isn't some DC God by any stretch.. The only bitter one I see is you towards our team and BOG.. Strangely enough that had gone up to the point we lost stubler. I'm thinking your starting to sound an awful lot like Morris in the village with this anger towards "the man"