iso_55 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Not seeing how Nichols is better than Max Hall. I don't see it either. I like Hall. I'm normally not a fan of qbs who lack athleticism, but I thought he showed ok considering what he was working with. Agree totally. He came on at the end of the season. Didn't throw a pick his final 3 games.
Jacquie Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 SMS-wise they can afford to take Glenn to camp but can they afford to take one (possibly 2) unhappy QB(s) to camp. Could end up causing problems in the locker room.If Glenn acts like he always has, he won't be a problem. I'm hoping as he has never been a part of the Ottawa organization on the field, he does tell the RedBlacks to go suck on an egg. Still you have to wonder if screwing around Glenn could potentially cause a split in the dressing room and whether it could have an impact on potential FAs signing there.
Blueandgold Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Not seeing how Nichols is better than Max Hall. I personally don't think he is.
Zontar Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Not seeing how Nichols is better than Max Hall. Serious. Seen lots of good, bad and ugly from Hall but if there was a game where NIchols demonstrated clear superiority I did not see that game. johnzo 1
iso_55 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Nicholls has never had the chance to show what he can do, unfortunately. We really don't know what he is capable of doing as a starter over a body of work of a season or two.
Guest Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Serious. Seen lots of good, bad and ugly from Hall but if there was a game where NIchols demonstrated clear superiority I did not see that game. http://cfl.ca/video/index/id/80959 http://cfl.ca/video/index/id/81217 Would have been nice to find full games. because he plays for a different team. Bomber fans do this all the time. Everyone here is useless anyone who has shown any remote spark on another team is automatically better. By this logic we should just stick with Hall, Goltz and Brown for 2014 and see how that goes.
17to85 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 why not stick with Hall? He did show some signs of getting better and he has shown more than Nichols cause every time nichols gets into a game he leaves on a cart. Hell I still say Goltz isn't as useless as people make him out to be. He got the Tim Burke under the bus special.
Doublezero Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 why not stick with Hall? He did show some signs of getting better and he has shown more than Nichols cause every time nichols gets into a game he leaves on a cart. Hell I still say Goltz isn't as useless as people make him out to be. He got the Tim Burke under the bus special. Inclined to agree about Max Hall. His arm strength is fine. In fact, he can really rifle the ball into tight places with some accuracy. His reads got better as the season progressed. He took some hellacious hits and didn't break. Look the circus that was going on around him with a coordinator who knew squat about 3-down ball. He's just not very mobile. My worry about Bombers taking on a QB such as Nichols is that Edm is just looking to free up cap room by dumping Nichols to get into a bidding war for someone like Drew Willy. And I am not convinced Wpg should go after Willy either. We would likely overpay.
Mr Dee Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 When Hall was put in, he showed he was learning the system, was reading the defence well and usually put the ball in the right read. He was progressing nicely and seems to show an aptitude for the Canadian game. He can move the ball. That's the good news. His arm strength is only functional to a spot or leading a receiver. As to velocity, I believe I typed this post faster. Haven't seen a display of arm strength. There is also the issue of scramble ability. Not…a…strong…point. All in all, I can see Hall as a decent back up who can come in and play the game. Not sold on him being a starter. **I was/am a fan of bringing in Willy. Brandon, Blue-urns and blitzmore 3
Adrenaline_x Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 For team with no QB, we sure are picky, maybe that's the problem. Seriously? You dont think we need to be at this point? We can ill afford another round of "will he pan out" as its simply a tough way to get to starter.. id rather go with a no name scouted by manus then a broken neverwas How many CFL Qbs has Danny mac Found and brought into the league so far? Honest question, i don't know.. It seems a bit strange to me to put faith in a man to spot and sign talent, when they don't have a history of doing it, or atleast not known to me.
SPuDS Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 For team with no QB, we sure are picky, maybe that's the problem.Seriously? You dont think we need to be at this point? We can ill afford another round of "will he pan out" as its simply a tough way to get to starter.. id rather go with a no name scouted by manus then a broken neverwas How many CFL Qbs has Danny mac Found and brought into the league so far? Honest question, i don't know.. It seems a bit strange to me to put faith in a man to spot and sign talent, when they don't have a history of doing it, or atleast not known to me.Honestly, i dont have a clue but riddle me this batman.. Wouldnt a personnel scout who knows the american football scene rather well... Who also just so happens to be a hall of famer QB in the league he is scouting players for... Be the best option to track down an elusive up and coming rookie QB seeing he knows exactly wtf a Canadian Football League QB needs to be?Seems like a winning solution to our age old problem when you think about it, no?
Brandon Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 His arm strength is only functional to a spot or leading a receiver. As to velocity, I believe I typed this post faster. Haven't seen a display of arm strength. There is also the issue of scramble ability. Not…a…strong…point. **I was/am a fan of brining in Willy. 100% agree... I also am concerned of Hall's durability (it didn't help that he had zero protection) , he was hurt quite often last season.
iso_55 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Any qb would have got hurt with our offensive line play last season. Blue-urns 1
Fatty Liver Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Agreed I like Max but the Bombers can't stand pat. If he gets injured (and he will) there has to be a capable QB waiting to step in or vice-versa. At this point I don't care who it is, Glenn, Willy, Tate, Nichols, Nieswander.....but we do need two solid candidates. So Bombers better keep pursuing any and all available options because they are diminishing quickly. Blue-urns and blitzmore 2
The Unknown Poster Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Drew Tate will be our starter
James Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 If drew Tate becomes our Starter I'll be pissed... Id much rather go with Max. As for our options at QB... really want to see Brown brought back. My internet scouting tells me he's a keeper.... Really want to see us sign Willy and bring back Hall as well. Willy, Brown, Hall would be a nice stable... inexperienced, but I'd rather go with that than Hank at this point. Get a solid OL together with a dominant RB and we'd be fine with those guys IMO.
iso_55 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 If drew Tate becomes our Starter I'll be pissed... Id much rather go with Max. As for our options at QB... really want to see Brown brought back. My internet scouting tells me he's a keeper.... Really want to see us sign Willy and bring back Hall as well. Willy, Brown, Hall would be a nice stable... inexperienced, but I'd rather go with that than Hank at this point. Get a solid OL together with a dominant RB and we'd be fine with those guys IMO. Tate is a better qb than Hall. He would be a major upgrade. But two things, his durability & no way the Stamps part with him unless we pay in the form of starter(s) & our first round draft pick. Plus the Stamps have to be confident that Adrian McPherson can actually go in & has the ability to win games as a starter if BLM gets injured.
Logan007 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Drew Tate will be our starter Do you just pull information like this out of your butt? How do you even come to this conclusion? They just lost Glenn, why do you think they'd give us Tate?
Logan007 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 If it were up to me giving a second round pick to a team for a QB, I'd be giving it to Ottawa for Glenn, not to Edmonton for Nichols. Nichols is just not worth a second round.
17to85 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Hall and Willy battling for spots 1 and 2 wouldn't be the worst situation.
Logan007 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Hall and Willy battling for spots 1 and 2 wouldn't be the worst situation. If we can't get Glenn and Willy, then this is the best worst case IMO.
sweep the leg Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Hall and Willy battling for spots 1 and 2 wouldn't be the worst situation. Not my first choice, nor my second choice, but I could live with that. I'd take that scenario over giving up our 1st rounder for Glenn.
Floyd Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 We MUST be able to find a better starter/backup than Hall... the guy had been a coach for two years when we dug him up last spring... At this point, I would be just as happy going into the season with three new, raw QBs instead of sending picks to anybody. Start fresh - Hall will always have Mackstink on him.
road griller Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 I guess Willy is our only option now, assuming they can even land him. Going to Glenn would put us in a holding pattern once again imo, looking for a starter that will be around for the long haul. How long would Glenn last behind our D'Oh line is another question and could he be effective? Q.B. problems already for yet another round of 'rebuild', hope they get it sorted asap.
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