James Posted July 15, 2013 Report Posted July 15, 2013 Ill get right too it. What is the point on having a DI RB if we're not going to scheme a running game to exploit defenses with the two very good, and very different runningbacks we have? I think it would be much more beneficial to DI a great returner for a couple of reasons. 1) We're not using Ford anyway(which I consider very stupid) 2) Our defence is always on the bloody field, so we need Jovon and Washington to have all the breaks they can get. Covering recievers is no easy task cardio wise. Plus, if they have more energy, they may be able to break on the ball better, creating turnovers and possibly more points, and since our offence cant generate any points this would be very much needed. 3) A guy like Woods would have had huge returns on those missed field goals 4) A great returner could generate some much needed points for us If we're not going to scheme a great Running game, which we should be, because Our QB cant pass the ball accurately or consistantly, we need to DI a returner. Mr. Woods has some pretty big time speed and can be used in the offense as well.
Mike Posted July 15, 2013 Report Posted July 15, 2013 I'm starting to wonder if Ford comes off for Woods. We have Woodson and Volny anyways. I wouldn't have expected it this week though, can't stick a guy on the roster with less than a week under his belt unless absolutely necessary.
James Posted July 15, 2013 Author Report Posted July 15, 2013 Yeah but as a returner you dont really need to learn a whole lot, other than there's no fair catch, and the rouge. Actually, looking at him (as more of a long term Project) he looks like he'd make a sick RB. He's very well built for the position, Strong enough for pass blocking, Sick speed for running outside. And he'd obviously be very good at catching the ball out of the backfield. Here's a good vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R5OgW3o_3Q
Mike Posted July 15, 2013 Report Posted July 15, 2013 Yeah but as a returner you dont really need to learn a whole lot, other than there's no fair catch, and the rouge. Actually, looking at him (as more of a long term Project) he looks like he'd make a sick RB. He's very well built for the position, Strong enough for pass blocking, Sick speed for running outside. And he'd obviously be very good at catching the ball out of the backfield. Here's a good vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R5OgW3o_3Q Sure you do. You need to be on the same page as your coverage, knowing which lanes they're going to attempt to open for you, etc.
James Posted July 15, 2013 Author Report Posted July 15, 2013 Sure you do. You need to be on the same page as your coverage, knowing which lanes they're going to attempt to open for you, etc. That's more of a read and react thing, which is what truly makes a good returner. St's blocking is always going to be very inconsistent.
17to85 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Posted July 15, 2013 Ford was in there for plays, he was the pitch option on Goltz TD run for one, and he returns kicks for the team as well so in a sense he is kind of a kick returner as a DI. The reason there is no dedicated DI kick returner on the team is cause none of those guys actually earned a job in preseason and you're not going to throw a guy on after 1 week of practise.
AKAChip Posted July 15, 2013 Report Posted July 15, 2013 I seem to recall some returners jumping into the lineup after one week of practice, especially if their only duty is as a return man but I could be wrong.
Floyd Posted July 15, 2013 Report Posted July 15, 2013 Basically, we need to hope that Woods is a Simpson-type and his natural ability can let him step into the game and make up for the mistakes that will happen in the first few weeks...
Blueandgold Posted July 15, 2013 Report Posted July 15, 2013 I don't know why we don't use Washington on Punt Returns, the guy has fielded one punt all season and he scored a TD.
James Posted July 16, 2013 Author Report Posted July 16, 2013 The original point was more toward being frustrated that we didn't have a scheme involving both runningbacks and exploiting defenses with the two different style runners. Not so much disappointment that we didn't use Woods right in the first week. And if we're going to continue to not use both our guys, than we might as well use Woods to see if we can generate some points else ware because our offence stinks to high heaven. Id like to see what Woods can do in a game with his type of speed and explosion if we're going to only use Ford on two occasions a game. With his type of speed, we can use him on the Receiver reverse thing we use with Denmark and he would be even more effective because he is faster. He's got Chris Williams speed.
kelownabomberfan Posted July 16, 2013 Report Posted July 16, 2013 I don't know why we don't use Washington on Punt Returns, the guy has fielded one punt all season and he scored a TD. he fielded one in the second game, ran it back 10 yards. But yeah, you make a good point.
JuranBoldenRules Posted July 16, 2013 Report Posted July 16, 2013 Having two import RB's on the 42 doesn't make much sense to me unless one of them does all kick returns. Volny can take some reps on offence. He should be our Calvin McCarty.
kelownabomberfan Posted July 16, 2013 Report Posted July 16, 2013 Having two import RB's on the 42 doesn't make much sense to me unless one of them does all kick returns. Volny can take some reps on offence. He should be our Calvin McCarty. yeah I'd like to see Volny get some time on offence. He looked good when he was hanging on to the ball, and he did well in that game he started last year against Montreal. If we aren't going to block or run decent running plays, we might as well go with an NI running back and use the import somewhere else, like an 4th import receiver.
Captain Blue Posted July 17, 2013 Report Posted July 17, 2013 I didn't find this topic offensive at all actually. I'll see myself out.
pigseye Posted July 18, 2013 Report Posted July 18, 2013 What! good grief man......JBR's comments are just too damn sensible for my liking, completely offensive.
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