MH370

[Goalie]

The USA knows what happens but they won't say. Bet on it. They know

[The Unknown Poster]

The USA knows what happens but they won't say. Bet on it. They know

To what end...?

[kelownabomberfan]

The USA knows what happens but they won't say. Bet on it. They know

 

 

That cat's look is priceless.  Like "why did I have to be adopted by this clown?"

[FrostyWinnipeg]

Does not autopilot go into a dive in a stall situation? Which is what would have happened here?

[The Unknown Poster]

Now that I give it thought I think the auto pilot automatically disengages in the event of a stall. A live pilot has a chance to glide if the plane is otherwise At speed and level. But yeah I guess it would disengage and simply fall into a nose dive.

[The Unknown Poster]

CNN has picked up this story

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/21/us/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-theories/index.html

 

But also notes several of the theories and includes this:

 

If the plane ran out of fuel while on autopilot, the landing at sea would have the same path as one on land, said Mitchell Casado, a Boeing 777 pilot trainer.

 

"It's not going to be any dramatic nose down or turning or anything like that. It's just going to be a very gentle, gradual descent -- very similar, actually, to what you would experience in a regular flight," Casado said. "Just a very gradual descent but constant until you hit the ground."

 

That sort of runs counter to the theory that it ran out of fuel and then crashed nose first into the ocean... 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

CNN has picked up this story

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/21/us/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-theories/index.html

 

But also notes several of the theories and includes this:

 

If the plane ran out of fuel while on autopilot, the landing at sea would have the same path as one on land, said Mitchell Casado, a Boeing 777 pilot trainer.

 

"It's not going to be any dramatic nose down or turning or anything like that. It's just going to be a very gentle, gradual descent -- very similar, actually, to what you would experience in a regular flight," Casado said. "Just a very gradual descent but constant until you hit the ground."

 

That sort of runs counter to the theory that it ran out of fuel and then crashed nose first into the ocean... 

I read a couple of threads about this and the general belief is that the auto pilot WOULD disengage and from that point anything could happen.including nose dive.

 

Here's a good link https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/latest/a/22235213/flight-recreated-in-777-simulator/

[The Unknown Poster]

A chunk of airplane wing that may match the Malaysia Airlines flight that went missing more than a year ago was found on the island of Réunion in the Indian Ocean. Xavier Tytelman, a French former military pilot, was contacted today by a man on the island who found the piece, according to The Telegraph, and says it looks like it could be from the long disappeared Boeing 777, in part because it appears to have spent at least a year in the ocean.

 

“We all think it is likely that the wing is that of a Boeing 777 – the same plane as MH370,” he told the Telegraph.

 

Flight 370 departed from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia for Beijing, China early on March 8, 2014, with 239 people on board. A search over tens of thousands of square miles of ocean in a number of different regions, failed to turn up a single trace of the jet.

 

***I dont know anything about ocean currents but if this is indeed wreckage from 370, it means these people were looking in the wrong place from Day One.  It means the mathematical calculations from satellite "handshakes" was inaccurate.  Because it would mean the plane crashed in the right ocean but the wrong spot, far more westerly then they were looking.

 

On one hand, it would be great news to have a place to start really searching.  But on the other hand, I'd be disappointed in thinking the plane is in pieces.  The piece found is a flap, pretty small piece of a wing.  I suppose it doesnt preclude the idea the wings snapped off but the fuselage remained intact and is at the bottom of the ocean...which is the important part if a cause is to be determined.

 

There's also this:

 

The plane wing is reportedly being considered as belonging to a twin engine plane that crashed near the island in 2006, a portion of the missing MH370 flight or the remnants of a Yemenia flight that crashed in 2009 off the coast of Comoros. Investigators warned it was too soon to determine where the plane wing originated from.

 

and

 

Jon Ostrower ✔ @jonostrower

For those of you watching at home, Reunion Island is REALLY, REALLY, REALLY far from where search teams have been looking for #MH370.

 

11:44 AM - 29 Jul 2015

 

Question:  Will they confirm the crash site of Amelia Earhart's plane or MH370 first?

[The Unknown Poster]

Antoine Forestier @a_forestier

Photo de la valise retrouvée ce matin à Saint-André, près de là où l'aile a été vue hier. (photo @Linfore) #LaReunion

 

Translate:

Antoine Forestier a_forestier

Photo of the suitcase found this morning in Saint-André , near where the wing was seen yesterday. (photo Linfore ) #LaReunion

 

 

AirLive.net @airlivenet

BREAKING '657BB' code found on wreckage is Boeing 777 flaperon according to manual #MH370 http://ift.tt/1MxCODd 

[The Unknown Poster]

@CNN: Source: Part number from aircraft debris found on island corresponds to a Boeing 777 aircraft. http://t.co/6BWEBOiq7shttp://t.co/E3Py2oiX2O

Must be MH370. Hopefully this somehow allows them to pinpoint the search somewhat. What are the odds there is larger pieces? Hopefully a fuselage with instrumentation and bodies.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

I dont know anything about ocean currents ..

Everything rotates counter clockwise in the Indian Ocean so nothing has changed in that part. Just took a year for the part to go from where it crashed to the other side.

 

http://www.weather.com/news/news/indian-ocean-currents-mh370-debris-plane

[Goalie]

So how longs it gonna take to say

[The Unknown Poster]

Well they've said its a 777 so it has to be 370. But France will be examining the pieces on Wednesday

[The Unknown Poster]

@CBCAlerts: Officials confirm debris found on French island of #Reunion is indeed from the missing #MalaysiaAirlines flight #MH370.

[kelownabomberfan]

OK so they finally found a piece of the plane.  Or at least, the Malaysians think so, but the French guy pussied out and wouldn't commit either way.  I've been reading a lot about reports that the plane flew over the Maldives.  And if you look at the currents, the debris could have drifted down to Reunion from a spot around the Maldives.  If the plane crashed into the ocean that far north, then they are looking in completely the wrong place.

[The Unknown Poster]

OK so they finally found a piece of the plane. Or at least, the Malaysians think so, but the French guy pussied out and wouldn't commit either way. I've been reading a lot about reports that the plane flew over the Maldives. And if you look at the currents, the debris could have drifted down to Reunion from a spot around the Maldives. If the plane crashed into the ocean that far north, then they are looking in completely the wrong place.

Drift patterns also fit the current search area. It's going to take a lot of time and effort to find the plane. It took two years to find Air France and they had wreckage righty away and knew it's course.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

OK so they finally found a piece of the plane.  Or at least, the Malaysians think so, but the French guy pussied out and wouldn't commit either way.  I've been reading a lot about reports that the plane flew over the Maldives.  And if you look at the currents, the debris could have drifted down to Reunion from a spot around the Maldives.  If the plane crashed into the ocean that far north, then they are looking in completely the wrong place.

The sat. data though said it went down sw of australia.

[The Unknown Poster]

(CNN)Malaysia's transport ministry said Thursday that more plane parts have washed up on the same island as a wing part believed -- with varying degrees of certainty -- to be from missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

 

Those new items, which the Malaysians described as pieces of windows, seat cushions and aluminum material, will be tested by the same international team of experts who are looking at a piece of a wing that the Malaysians said Wednesday is definitely from MH370.

 

This is a good sign.  There had been talk that no other debris might be located as the island is so small.  The fact more debris is washing ashore could mean the wreckage was located in a rather small area and drifted together.  I hate that its "pieces of windows" though... I have held out hope the main part of the plane was contained on the bottom of the ocean.  Hopefully thats still the case.  They need to find those black boxes.

 

I think my initial thought that this was a catastrophic malfunction is going to be proven true...with a few remarkable coincidences thrown in (like the auto-pilot skirting several nations)

 

EDIT: An Australian agency coordinating the search for the missing airliner, however, says there is no indication so far of any new aircraft debris.

 

Hmmmm

[Goalie]

Malaysia says one thing. Paris says the other. It's interesting but nothing is for sure just yet. Makes you wonder why Malaysia says there's no doubt but the ppl investigating it says there is some doubt.

[The Unknown Poster]

If it's from a 777 how can there be doubt. I think they probably haven't linked it 100% but logic dictates here.

[Goalie]

Because Malaysia has been known to jump the gun so to speak

[The Unknown Poster]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/03/europe/mh370-investigation/index.html

 

Now even French investigators are convinced: The airplane debris found on Reunion Island in July belonged to vanished Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, a top French prosecutor said Thursday.

 

Investigators learned Thursday that a series of numbers found inside the plane flaperon matches with records, held by a Spanish company that manufactured portions of the component, linking the debris to MH370, the office of Paris Prosecutor Francois Molins said.

 

"Consequently, it is possible today to affirm with certainty that the flaperon discovered at the Reunion Island on July 29, 2015 is that of MH370," the office said.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

"Consequently, it is possible today to affirm with certainty that the flaperon discovered at the Reunion Island on July 29, 2015 is that of MH370," the office said.

There is a Google translation right there.

[iso_55]

Well, so much for the conspiracy theories that the plane was hijacked & diverted to some island where the passengers were held prisoners.

[The Unknown Poster]

Well, so much for the conspiracy theories that the plane was hijacked & diverted to some island where the passengers were held prisoners.

No one legitimately thought that.