TJ Jones

[Floyd]

Any word if TJ Jones has even applied for NI status...  would be worth giving up a late round pick in the supplemental just for his rights

[Mike]

He won't bother applying, it's a waste of time for him.

[Tracker]

He won't bother applying, it's a waste of time for him.

But he might be as good as Kito Poblah.

[Mr Dee]

Wait, i thought we automatically owned the rights to any T Jones.

[Maudie fingerjammer]

Clearly under the existing CFL rules he would not qualify as a non import. It raises an interesting legal question. Suppose an individual born in Canada retains dual citizenship. He is trained in football in a US high school and university. Upon graduation he decides to return to Canada to live and work. He would not be allowed to qualify as a non import, and as he wasn't skilled enough to gain employment as an import, he would be unable to follow a career in Canadian Football. One has to wonder if this could be challenged in a court of law on the basis of discrimination. The individual clearly has the talent and ability to be employed in the CFL but the league  discriminates on the basis of where the individual was trained. 

A Canadian individual attends the Wharton School of Business. He sees an ad in the paper from Great West life for an actuary. The add lists the qualification and skills required for the job. The individual applies for the job, and is interviewed for the position. He wows the committee. In every respect he is qualified for the position. Several days later he receives a letter of rejection. In the letter he is told that he was the best candidate for the job. His training was exemplary and the Wharton School of Business turns out highly qualified graduates. However he is turned down on the basis that he has the best qualifications but GWL as a matter of policy, refuses to employ graduates from Wharton because they are too well trained.

[Mike]

Clearly under the existing CFL rules he would not qualify as a non import. It raises an interesting legal question. Suppose an individual born in Canada retains dual citizenship. He is trained in football in a US high school and university. Upon graduation he decides to return to Canada to live and work. He would not be allowed to qualify as a non import, and as he wasn't skilled enough to gain employment as an import, he would be unable to follow a career in Canadian Football. One has to wonder if this could be challenged in a court of law on the basis of discrimination. The individual clearly has the talent and ability to be employed in the CFL but the league  discriminates on the basis of where the individual was trained. 

A Canadian individual attends the Wharton School of Business. He sees an ad in the paper from Great West life for an actuary. The add lists the qualification and skills required for the job. The individual applies for the job, and is interviewed for the position. He wows the committee. In every respect he is qualified for the position. Several days later he receives a letter of rejection. In the letter he is told that he was the best candidate for the job. His training was exemplary and the Wharton School of Business turns out highly qualified graduates. However he is turned down on the basis that he has the best qualifications but GWL as a matter of policy, refuses to employ graduates from Wharton because they are too well trained.

 

I don't know what all this is about, it's too early, but if he wanted to apply, he'd qualify as a non-import easily.

[Maudie fingerjammer]

An import is:

(a) A player who has received training in football outside

of Canada by having participated as a player in a football

game outside of Canada prior to attaining the age of

seventeen years.

( A player who has received training in football outside

of Canada by having participated in a football game as a

player outside of Canada after attaining the age of seventeen

years, but who has received no football training in Canada

prior to attaining the age of seventeen years.

[kelownabomberfan]

With all of the kerfuffle going on with TFW's these days maybe the CFL Should go 100% non-import. Just kidding...

[Floyd]

okey dokey then.

[Tracker]

okey dokey then.

As much as a pain in the butt the ratio rule is, it is what makes the CFL the CFL and provides this forum with grist for the mill.

[Floyd]

 

okey dokey then.

As much as a pain in the butt the ratio rule is, it is what makes the CFL the CFL and provides this forum with grist for the mill.

 

 

Actually, it was more an 'okey dokey then' to wtf is Maudie Fingerjammer talking about...

[SPuDS]

okey dokey then.

As much as a pain in the butt the ratio rule is, it is what makes the CFL the CFL and provides this forum with grist for the mill.

Actually, it was more an 'okey dokey then' to wtf is Maudie Fingerjammer talking about...

the rules that say if your considered an import or not? Option a) and option b )?

[Rids]

Maudie is posting from the old definitions. The 2010 CBA lays it out like this:

 

The following Players shall be classified as non-import Players:

( a ) A Player other than one referred to in paragraph 6.

( b ) A Player classified as a non-import Player prior to November 28th, 2005.

( c ) A Player who is physically resident in Canada for an aggregate period of seven years prior to attaining the age of 15 years, or a Player who is a Canadian citizen and was physically resident in Canada for an aggregate period of five (5) years prior to attaining the age of 18 years.”

 

 

TJ Jones potentially could classify as a non import based on section c there. 

 

Likewise John Urschel (who was also born in Winnipeg, dad played football at U of Alberta) would easily classify as a non import.