robynjt Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 Saw this in the Calgary Sun with some quotes from the Lemonator: Other comments include the fact that: - Buck and Goltz are the exact same style of QB so there was no difference in preparing (both athletic) - Goltz should hang onto the ball longer Found the article: http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/07/23/calgary-stampeders-focus-on-getting-to-winnipeg-blue-bombers-qb-justin-goltz
Mike Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 If they're preparing for a QB who is at the same level athletically as Buck Pierce, they're in for a big surprise. If they're preparing for a QB who is going to hold onto the ball as long as Buck Pierce, they're in for a big surprise. Good for them.
voodoochylde Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 To some extent, he's right .. Goltz as an inexperience quarterback will hold onto the ball a bit longer .. but he *IS* more mobile and athletic than Pierce ..the comment about sacks waiting to happen is just food for the OLINE .. I hope they run it down Calgary's throat all game long ..
road griller Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 Goltz may hang on to the ball but he will also tuck and run sooner. These guys don't realise Goltz is probably faster than they are. Good, rush the pocket. Make sure you get nice and deep....
robynjt Posted July 25, 2013 Author Report Posted July 25, 2013 Yeah... I forgot how media can be when a team is winning Not to mention their QB is going to be the exact same (holding onto the ball a bit longer than they usually would).
Dascow Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 Athletically I don’t see a huge difference between Goltz and Pierce. Clearly Goltz gets the edge because he is younger and has a more solid frame, so to speak, but I don’t think the difference is huge. When Pierce actually runs, with a purpose, he is pretty quick. The problem with Pierce is that he has to reign himself in, or risk an injury. In other words, the biggest difference between the two at this point is that when Goltz does hold on to the ball and gets in a little bit of trouble, he will be willing to take off with it. Goltz, oddly enough, seems to have more pocket awareness in that sense at this point. Another thing that Goltz did last game that Pierce never seems to do any more is, when there doesn’t seem to be anyone open, he scrambles around a bit to give someone a chance to shake free of the defender and then hits the open WR. Based on the last game, the way Goltz plays is much different than the way Pierce has been playing. Goltz is starting his first game ever in the CFL though, so I do expect a sack or two because he isn't quite sure where to go with the ball. I would rather take that though than an interception. I just hope the fans can have patients with him. Will Goltz surprise that Calgary defence? I hope so.
road griller Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 Athletically I don’t see a huge difference between Goltz and Pierce. Clearly Goltz gets the edge because he is younger and has a more solid frame, so to speak, but I don’t think the difference is huge. When Pierce actually runs, with a purpose, he is pretty quick. I am not one to Horse a Deadbeat but I think the 2013 Goltz is much faster than the 2013 Buck....I think. Noeller and JohnnyOnTheSpot 2
Noeller Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 I am not one to Horse a Deadbeat but I think the 2013 Goltz is much faster than the 2013 Buck....I think. ...and it's not even close. Buck of '10/'11 no longer exists. ...And I say that as a relatively big BP fan. The guy has just been hit way too many times... JohnnyOnTheSpot 1
TrueBlue Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 I thought hughes was hurt. His mouth seems to be working just fine. road griller 1
17to85 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 If they're preparing for a QB who is at the same level athletically as Buck Pierce, they're in for a big surprise. If they're preparing for a QB who is going to hold onto the ball as long as Buck Pierce, they're in for a big surprise. Good for them. you beat me too it. Those comments are very nice to read cause it tells me that the stamps d-line has no idea what Goltz can do. Much more athletic than Pierce at this point AND much more aware and able to make a decision with the ball (ie. doesn't hold it as long) B-F-F-C 1
TrueBlue Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 This will be an adjustment for Goltz. Pierce often had the issue of not allowing the play to develop, and he has missed receivers that were/would have been open because of it. Goltz will no doubt be a little anxious, but if he can stay patient, and trust his o-line, and his instinct, he can make good things happen down field.
Blueandgold Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 If they're preparing for a QB who is at the same level athletically as Buck Pierce, they're in for a big surprise. If they're preparing for a QB who is going to hold onto the ball as long as Buck Pierce, they're in for a big surprise. Good for them. We definitely have a shot at an upset this week.
kelownabomberfan Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 I watched Glenn January being interviewed about the Charleston Hughes comment and he just said "If I was in high school still I might care". Hee hee. I'd like to see the hogs put in a good effort this game as the Toronto d-line was pushing them around pretty good last game. It does help if Calgary comes in over-confident.
iso_55 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 From what I understand, Hughes isn't even playing. Players talk all the time & it's always cheap. Some more than others. Go out on the field & let your play do the talking.
pigseye Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 Goltz was in Detroits camp with Stafford, he ran a 4.3 - 40.......that's pretty darn quick.
Fraser Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 Goltz was in Detroits camp with Stafford, he ran a 4.3 - 40.......that's pretty darn quick. 4.3 is fast for a returner or cb let alone a qb. I'm not calling you a liar, but do you have a link for that? that's like Michael Vick in his prime or RG3 speed.
kelownabomberfan Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 4.3 is fast for a returner or cb let alone a qb. I'm not calling you a liar, but do you have a link for that? that's like Michael Vick in his prime or RG3 speed. I found this article from 2009. http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2009/05/walled_lakes_justin_goltz_does.html In the comments section it mentions that Goltz ran a 4.5 40 in school - but its a post from his uncle so who knows if it is accurate. Also interesting was the fact that Goltz and Obama went to the same school - Occidental. http://www.oxy.edu/our-story/oxy-people/obama-oxy
kelownabomberfan Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 here's an interesting factoid - Goltz grew up in a small town in Michigan but played college ball in California. Tom Brady grew up in a small town in California but went to school in Michigan. Amazing parallel!
Mr Dee Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 here's an interesting factoid - Goltz grew up in a small town in Michigan but played college ball in California. Tom Brady grew up in a small town in California but went to school in Michigan. Amazing parallel! Was that when Tom's dad Mike, met and married Carol Ann Martin and brought her 3 daughters into the fold?
iso_55 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 here's an interesting factoid - Goltz grew up in a small town in Michigan but played college ball in California. Tom Brady grew up in a small town in California but went to school in Michigan. Amazing parallel! Eerie Alternative Universe kinda stuff.
kelownabomberfan Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 Was that when Tom's dad Mike, met and married Carol Ann Martin and brought her 3 daughters into the fold? wow - quite the bunch of Bradys if that was indeed the case.
Mr Dee Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 wow - quite the bunch of Bradys if that was indeed the case. Well, it says so right here: Till the one day when the lady met this fellow And they knew it was much more than a hunch, That this group would somehow form a family. That's the way we all became the Brady Bunch. source: http://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/thebradybunchlyrics.html
Fraser Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 Looking at Calgary's roster they have been bitten pretty hard by the injury bug too. Esp if Mitchell is starting. No excuses for a ppor showing.
pigseye Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 Hey, somebody has to be the first to start the rumor.
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