holoman Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 As per Gary Lawless http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/CEO-Buchko-recommending-Bombers-fire-GM-Joe-Mack-218868281.html
Dawgmanistan Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 Discuss... http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/CEO-Buchko-recommending-Bombers-fire-GM-Joe-Mack-218868281.html
kelownabomberfan Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 I guess Mack is done. I can't say that he didn't get enough chances. He blew it on the QB side. I can't blame him for not getting Reilly and only an idiot would say that we could have gotten him, as there was no chance. I do think that he should have grabbed Glenn when he had the chance. Not finding a legit QB in four years would be any GM's downfall. Sayanora Mack!
saskbluefan Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 I won't dump on a guy about to lose his job because I'm sure he made a good faith effort. It will be interesting to see what they do in the interim here. On the one hand it gives a replacement 2/3 of a lost season to evaluate and begin to move his pieces in. That helped Tillman and Sask win the Cup in '07. On the other hand if it's just Walters treading water till Candidate X gets hired in November things could get even more ugly than the ugly they already are. On the 3rd hand having a GM in charge who all but knows he's gone at the end of the year can be dangerous too. And that's where this was heading.
Blueandgold Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 Bringing back Buck Pierce cost him any chance he had of retaining his job.
Dascow Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 It's kind of bush league for the board member to leak this before the rest of the board has deliberated on Buchko's recommendation. Par for the course I guess though. I hope Walters has the acuman to make some tough decisions that are coming up. I wonder if we will still keep Ken Moll? (For now at least.)
Mike Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 It's kind of bush league for the board member to leak this before the rest of the board has deliberated on Buchko's recommendation. Par for the course I guess though. I hope Walters has the acuman to make some tough decisions that are coming up. I wonder if we will still keep Ken Moll? (For now at least.) This. I'd like to see that clown step down IMMEDIATELY. Noeller 1
B-F-F-C Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 I think the director who leaked the info to Lawless should be the next to go. That's completely unacceptable. As a director you're bound by a confidentiality agreement that would preclude you to go public with that information until its voted on.
NotoriousBIG Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 I won't dump on a guy about to lose his job because I'm sure he made a good faith effort. It will be interesting to see what they do in the interim here. On the one hand it gives a replacement 2/3 of a lost season to evaluate and begin to move his pieces in. That helped Tillman and Sask win the Cup in '07. On the other hand if it's just Walters treading water till Candidate X gets hired in November things could get even more ugly than the ugly they already are. On the 3rd hand having a GM in charge who all but knows he's gone at the end of the year can be dangerous too. And that's where this was heading. He might've made "good faith" effort but I saw very little actual effort. No moves for a QB, no action in free agency, little in the way of trades. Just some decent scouting but even that has slowed down. Now lets get someone proven behind the wheel.
kelownabomberfan Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 That helped Tillman and Sask win the Cup in '07. The only thing that helped Chia head win the Cup in 07 was Kevin Glenn breaking his arm. The Riders weren't that good. We would have clubbed them into the ground if we had had Glenn.
voodoochylde Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 The leak is yet another example of why this organization cannot get its ish together .. too many competing agendas that preclude the team from projecting a single, unified message. MOBomberFan and Mike 2
kelownabomberfan Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 He might've made "good faith" effort but I saw very little actual effort. No moves for a QB, no action in free agency, little in the way of trades. Just some decent scouting but even that has slowed down. Now lets get someone proven behind the wheel.
NotoriousBIG Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 The leak is yet another example of why this organization cannot get its ish together .. too many competing agendas that preclude the team from projecting a single, unified message. The guy in the glasses in the post above me was a big fan of controlling the message.
Noeller Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 The amount of glee in Lawless' "voice" in this piece disgusts me. I really feel Joe Mack has done some great things in pulling this team outta the Mike Kelly fiasco, but at the end of the day, someone has to answer for the W/L record. I just really feel that waiting till the offseason is the right move.
voodoochylde Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 The guy in the glasses in the post above me was a big fan of controlling the message. Has nothing to do with controlling a message .. it's about projecting a clear vision and ensuring goals (both short and long term) are well defined for both the organization and other stakeholders (fans).
Mike Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 As much as I've supported Mack in the past ... and I do feel like a lot of the criticism he receives is unwarranted ... I can only be so patient with the one glaring thing he's failed to address. If he can't get it together and piece together a capable offense after four years, it's time for him to go. Armchair GM 1
saskbluefan Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 The only thing that helped Chia head win the Cup in 07 was Kevin Glenn breaking his arm. The Riders weren't that good. We would have clubbed them into the ground if we had had Glenn. Fine. I don't disagree with that. But my point is it would be ideal if a new guy could get a 2/3 season head start on what he wants to accomplish here. It would be nice is the 2014 season wasn't written off to assessment.
NotoriousBIG Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 Has nothing to do with controlling a message .. it's about projecting a clear vision and ensuring goals (both short and long term) are well defined for both the organization and other stakeholders (fans). Respectfully, don't be so naive. Lawless wasn't leaked this info cause they like the cut of his jelly jib. They're sending a message that people are actually working to solve this sheet-show.
robynjt Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 Now I'm just scared to see his replacement... Noeller 1
NotoriousBIG Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 I'm stoked for the replacement! While 2013 with Walters will be more of the same, the next guy hired could get us into the mix in a hurry, with the dispersal draft approaching. Higgins 2014 Logan007 1
Mike Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 Respectfully, don't be so naive. Lawless wasn't leaked this info cause they like the cut of his jelly jib. They're sending a message that people are actually working to solve this sheet-show. Respectfully, they're sending a message that they have no respect for proper process and no clue how to be professional and handle things in an appropriate fashion. TheGhostOfJoeMack, Mark H., Noeller and 3 others 6
rebusrankin Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 Bush that a board member leaked this, that person should be removed asap. Thought they'd wait till year's end. Scared to see the replacement. However we have contract extensions for Henoc and Jade asap.
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