USABomberfan Posted August 3, 2014 Author Report Posted August 3, 2014 - Don't give the riders good field position.. part of the problem in that debacle last night, was sask started on Ottawas side of the field in the first half.. average field position was like the 40 yard line of the redblacks. - Double Team Chick. Dude's a beast. Stop him and there goes most the pressure from the sask dline. - Ford? meh, 20 carries for like 70 yards isn't that impressive.. basically had 2 walk in td's though due to field position, Ford had a good week last week, last night? not so much really. - Durant? Get to him early and he should cave. Throw different looks at him, remove the running game and durant isn't nearly as good. - Sask has been kind of an enigma this year, great one week, terrible the next.. if that holds true, this week they should be terrible Chick and Foley, don't forget about that number 95. I think one big key for our offense will be a screen game with Grigsby or Cotton. If we can get screen or shovel passes working against them and exploit what I expect to be them sending a heavy rush on us, we may be able to get some vulnerabilities exposed of theirs. Do that and perhaps Chick and Foley are a little slower to try and run in on Willy. Then, perhaps you also end up opening up the field for the Wideouts. I didn't hear anything but hoping Nick Moore is back this week? If he and Watson could be back, I think we can exploit them a bit.
Fatty Liver Posted August 3, 2014 Report Posted August 3, 2014 Bombers really have to come out with the physicality, that was lacking against the Moes. Their OL is banged up, Durant is nicked, and Riders have short prep time. Our front 4 needs to duplicate what Edmonton's front did to us.......and just bang away on them. Bomber front four is incapable of creating that pressure on their own. They will need the front 7 plus the occasional DB to effectively get to Durant. 2013 Banjo bowl is the template.
realviking Posted August 3, 2014 Report Posted August 3, 2014 It also looks like the Riders will only get one practice in before the game, while we will have four (including today's). That might tip the scales.
Jpan85 Posted August 3, 2014 Report Posted August 3, 2014 Who have the Riders beat Hamilton, Argos and Ottawa. I love a certain poster on here is saying that the Bombers are lucky on Riderfans and that they have beat no one.
Noeller Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Nobody thinks Willy will be just as motivated than Ford.I do think that Willy will be just as motivated as Ford, but it's not like the Riders cut Willy. He moved on because he wanted to start.False. Taman is on record as saying that they were moving on from Willy because he didn't fit their plans and they like their current back up better. They were going to let him go to FA but we tossed em a token piece for his neg rights.
TBURGESS Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Nobody thinks Willy will be just as motivated than Ford.I do think that Willy will be just as motivated as Ford, but it's not like the Riders cut Willy. He moved on because he wanted to start.False. Taman is on record as saying that they were moving on from Willy because he didn't fit their plans and they like their current back up better. They were going to let him go to FA but we tossed em a token piece for his neg rights. I don't care how Taman wanted to spin it. Willy was leaving to get a shot at starting.
17to85 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Nobody thinks Willy will be just as motivated than Ford.I do think that Willy will be just as motivated as Ford, but it's not like the Riders cut Willy. He moved on because he wanted to start.False. Taman is on record as saying that they were moving on from Willy because he didn't fit their plans and they like their current back up better. They were going to let him go to FA but we tossed em a token piece for his neg rights. I don't care how Taman wanted to spin it. Willy was leaving to get a shot at starting. "I don't care what people who know the actual facts say, I'm sticking with my idea!!!" SPuDS and blitzmore 2
KptKrunch Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Who have the Riders beat Hamilton, Argos and Ottawa. I love a certain poster on here is saying that the Bombers are lucky on Riderfans and that they have beat no one. Now this, I don't get? Well, I kind of do because it's Rider fans and they can be a bit low in the IQ department. Last year, it didn't matter who we played, cause WE were the garbage team (and this so called 'garbage' team kicked their everloving a$$es all over IGF in our only home win of the year last year). What a bunch of ignoramuses they are. A win is a win is a win - and I wouldn't call Hamilton 'garbage' they've been improving every week, just got off to a very shaky start. Ottawa - very motivated in their first ever game (as expected). Montreal - they were coming off a win and also very motivated. Sk has looked like garbage more than once this season, but I wouldn't call them a 'garbage' team. Bombers are full value for their 5 - 1 record (including the loss they got their a$$es kicked by the 'smos that wasn't a "oh if we got this call or made this catch" type of game). What I mean by that - as much as they deserved to lose to Edmonton, they deserved to win the other 5 games. I have half a mind (I know I know too much credit I'm giving myself there) to head over to riderville and spew out some nonsense but frankly, waste of my time (i'd much rather waste it here). All that being said - I'm picking SK to win, but won't be the least bit surprised if we smoke 'em Thursday
Goalie Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Bombers win, sask is jekyl and hyde this year big time, win one big, lose one big... they just beat ottawa big, so that means they will lose big this week. Sask right now is the definition of a .500 team, played good one week, not good the next. That continues this week.
Fatty Liver Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Who have the Riders beat Hamilton, Argos and Ottawa. I love a certain poster on here is saying that the Bombers are lucky on Riderfans and that they have beat no one. Now this, I don't get? Well, I kind of do because it's Rider fans and they can be a bit low in the IQ department. Last year, it didn't matter who we played, cause WE were the garbage team (and this so called 'garbage' team kicked their everloving a$$es all over IGF in our only home win of the year last year). What a bunch of ignoramuses they are. A win is a win is a win - and I wouldn't call Hamilton 'garbage' they've been improving every week, just got off to a very shaky start. Ottawa - very motivated in their first ever game (as expected). Montreal - they were coming off a win and also very motivated. Sk has looked like garbage more than once this season, but I wouldn't call them a 'garbage' team. Bombers are full value for their 5 - 1 record (including the loss they got their a$$es kicked by the 'smos that wasn't a "oh if we got this call or made this catch" type of game). What I mean by that - as much as they deserved to lose to Edmonton, they deserved to win the other 5 games. I have half a mind (I know I know too much credit I'm giving myself there) to head over to riderville and spew out some nonsense but frankly, waste of my time (i'd much rather waste it here). All that being said - I'm picking SK to win, but won't be the least bit surprised if we smoke 'em Thursday Surprisingly about 40% of the posters in Riderville are predicting a BB victory due to injuries, IGF and a shortened week of preparation.
iso_55 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Who have the Riders beat Hamilton, Argos and Ottawa. I love a certain poster on here is saying that the Bombers are lucky on Riderfans and that they have beat no one. Now this, I don't get? Well, I kind of do because it's Rider fans and they can be a bit low in the IQ department. Last year, it didn't matter who we played, cause WE were the garbage team (and this so called 'garbage' team kicked their everloving a$$es all over IGF in our only home win of the year last year). What a bunch of ignoramuses they are. A win is a win is a win - and I wouldn't call Hamilton 'garbage' they've been improving every week, just got off to a very shaky start. Ottawa - very motivated in their first ever game (as expected). Montreal - they were coming off a win and also very motivated. Sk has looked like garbage more than once this season, but I wouldn't call them a 'garbage' team. Bombers are full value for their 5 - 1 record (including the loss they got their a$$es kicked by the 'smos that wasn't a "oh if we got this call or made this catch" type of game). What I mean by that - as much as they deserved to lose to Edmonton, they deserved to win the other 5 games. I have half a mind (I know I know too much credit I'm giving myself there) to head over to riderville and spew out some nonsense but frankly, waste of my time (i'd much rather waste it here). All that being said - I'm picking SK to win, but won't be the least bit surprised if we smoke 'em Thursday Surprisingly about 40% of the posters in Riderville are predicting a BB victory due to injuries, IGF and a shortened week of preparation. Who gives a rats ass about Rider Fans? Let them say what they want.
Mr. Perfect Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Amen! Seriously why the hell does anyone care what they say on their message board? Let them be idiots if that's how they want to be.
TBURGESS Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Nobody thinks Willy will be just as motivated than Ford.I do think that Willy will be just as motivated as Ford, but it's not like the Riders cut Willy. He moved on because he wanted to start.False. Taman is on record as saying that they were moving on from Willy because he didn't fit their plans and they like their current back up better. They were going to let him go to FA but we tossed em a token piece for his neg rights. I don't care how Taman wanted to spin it. Willy was leaving to get a shot at starting. "I don't care what people who know the actual facts say, I'm sticking with my idea!!!" You're as obnoxious as ever. You really think that Willy would re-sign with the Riders to sit on the bench for another season when he had a chance to start elsewhere and to make starters money? Onyenegecha 1
Blueandgold Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Who have the Riders beat Hamilton, Argos and Ottawa. I love a certain poster on here is saying that the Bombers are lucky on Riderfans and that they have beat no one. The big difference is we went into BC and kicked their ass while Sask got it taken to them by the Lions in their own yard.
Atomic Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 I think the Bombers and Riders are very close right now. Should be a good game.
Fatty Liver Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Amen! Seriously why the hell does anyone care what they say on their message board? Let them be idiots if that's how they want to be. Think about it. If 40% of Rider fans think that the Bombers are going to win, that's pretty good. I take it as a compliment as usually there would be less than 2% picking the Bombers.
Brandon Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 I'm only concerned about getting pressure on Durant. Willy has been able to play with lots of pressure on him before. The whole Sask d line is somewhat over blown with the sack tally since they had something like 9 sacks against Collaros.
Goalie Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 I'm only concerned about getting pressure on Durant. Willy has been able to play with lots of pressure on him before. The whole Sask d line is somewhat over blown with the sack tally since they had something like 9 sacks against Collaros. Good point and that was in a monsoon. Anyway though, 32000 + sold so far. This game will be rocking.
USABomberfan Posted August 4, 2014 Author Report Posted August 4, 2014 I went over to Riderfans just because I got curious to see what the majority were saying. I actually saw a lot of them say it was gonna be a tough one. Most of the smart ones recognize our team has done much to improve, and I think they realize how much different a team their facing. That being said, I don't doubt that at some point the losses start catching up with us. I mean in 2011, we started out 7-1 yet only finished 10-8 not doing so well on the back stretch. Is such a scenario likely to happen again this year with this team? Yes, but considering how bad our 3-15 team of 2013 was, 9 or 10 wins, or even only 8 for that matter is something I could live with because of that. This team may be playing over their heads a little bit, but that's what good coaching can do, it can get the most out of your players, even ones that aren't all that talented. All I hope is that Bombers stick with O'Shea through the bad times and don't lose faith like they did with Dave Ritchie back in 04.
17to85 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 That being said, I don't doubt that at some point the losses start catching up with us. I mean in 2011, we started out 7-1 yet only finished 10-8 not doing so well on the back stretch. Is such a scenario likely to happen again this year with this team? Yes, but considering how bad our 3-15 team of 2013 was, 9 or 10 wins, or even only 8 for that matter is something I could live with because of that. I think there is a very noticeable difference between this year's hot start and 2011's hot start... in 2011 they were winning exclusively because the defense was dominating, this year they are actually getting wins because the offense is contributing in a big way. Generally in the CFL you can get by riding your defense early in the season because every offense is behind. This year I would expect the offense to get better as the year goes on as well so they shouldn't get left behind as other offenses start to improve across the league. If any team should be concerned about doing what the 2011 Bombers did it would be Edmonton because they're doing it almost exactly the same way as the Bombers did back then. Relying on tons of sacks and turnovers, but eventually teams will clean that up. I would expect the Bombers record to sag a bit simply because of a tougher schedule but I don't expect it to drop off the map completely. Blue-urns, comedygeek, blitzmore and 1 other 4
Mark H. Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Agreed, this team is completely different from 2011. The D would generate half a dozen turnovers but the game would still be close.
iso_55 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Nobody thinks Willy will be just as motivated than Ford.I do think that Willy will be just as motivated as Ford, but it's not like the Riders cut Willy. He moved on because he wanted to start.False. Taman is on record as saying that they were moving on from Willy because he didn't fit their plans and they like their current back up better. They were going to let him go to FA but we tossed em a token piece for his neg rights. I don't care how Taman wanted to spin it. Willy was leaving to get a shot at starting. "I don't care what people who know the actual facts say, I'm sticking with my idea!!!" You're as obnoxious as ever. You really think that Willy would re-sign with the Riders to sit on the bench for another season when he had a chance to start elsewhere and to make starters money? Hey comedygeek, no complaints about this post being rude? Funny how that works.... I think it was a combination of both.... Willy had a chance to start & the fact that the Riders seemed high on Sunseri for some reason. I know some Rider fans sure were. So, the answer is probably somewhere in the middle. Actually thought he should have been #2 last year. Maybe Duressler47 can explain it for us. All I know is Willy is our guy now... That's all I care about.
Noeller Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Taman was going to outright cut Willy because they didn't want him. That's been stated. It just so happened that we offered him a job. No grey area.
AtlanticRiderFan Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Nobody thinks Willy will be just as motivated than Ford.I do think that Willy will be just as motivated as Ford, but it's not like the Riders cut Willy. He moved on because he wanted to start.False. Taman is on record as saying that they were moving on from Willy because he didn't fit their plans and they like their current back up better. They were going to let him go to FA but we tossed em a token piece for his neg rights. I don't care how Taman wanted to spin it. Willy was leaving to get a shot at starting. "I don't care what people who know the actual facts say, I'm sticking with my idea!!!" You're as obnoxious as ever. You really think that Willy would re-sign with the Riders to sit on the bench for another season when he had a chance to start elsewhere and to make starters money? Hey comedygeek, no complaints about this post being rude? Funny how that works.... I think it was a combination of both.... Willy had a chance to start & the fact that the Riders seemed high on Sunseri for some reason. I know some Rider fans sure were. So, the answer is probably somewhere in the middle. Actually thought he should have been #2 last year. Maybe Duressler47 can explain it for us. All I know is Willy is our guy now... That's all I care about. Yeah, I think some Rider fans actually thought Sunseri should have been number 2 over Willy. That, I really won't understand. Willy was better IMO. He proved himself better in the game against Hamilton last year. It made more sense to let Willy go however, because there was a starting position available for him in Winnipeg. I agree with you about the answer being in the middle. It sounds like Taman wanted to move on from him. But even if he wanted to keep him, I think Willy would have wanted to come to Winnipeg anyways since he would have a better future being a starter there. I would love to have Willy as our backup still, seeing as Sunseri hasn't done very well lately, however, it made no sense for him to stay.
Bingo_Arms Posted August 4, 2014 Report Posted August 4, 2014 Taman was going to outright cut Willy because they didn't want him. That's been stated. It just so happened that we offered him a job. No grey area.LOL. Willy was a free agent. There was no need to "outright cut" him. Don't let facts stand in your way though.Drew was valued by the organization but it was plain as day one of Ottawa, Winnipeg or Hamilton would offer him two things Saskatchewan couldn't, more money and a legitimate opportunity to be a starter.
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