Mr. Perfect Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 The difference is, is that at the time Simon was not better than Milt, Bruce, or Gordon. No one knew what Simon was going to become. He only had 725 yards for us in 2000 before he went to the NFL. There was no reason to overspend for him considering who we had. Hindsight is always 20/20 though of course.
rebusrankin Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 On Simon, Taman should have realized Bobby Gordon was 33 and didn't have as much left and cut Troy Mills to make a spot for Simon.
Mr. Perfect Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 Gordon put up 1,395 the season before along with 7 touchdowns. 33 or not you don't part with numbers like that. No one had any idea what Simon would become. There was no reason to think he'd be one of the greatest of all time.
BigBlue Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 The difference is, is that at the time Simon was not better than Milt, Bruce, or Gordon. No one knew what Simon was going to become. He only had 725 yards for us in 2000 before he went to the NFL. There was no reason to overspend for him considering who we had. Hindsight is always 20/20 though of course. I don't think we would have had to overspend
Blueandgold Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 The difference is, is that at the time Simon was not better than Milt, Bruce, or Gordon. No one knew what Simon was going to become. He only had 725 yards for us in 2000 before he went to the NFL. There was no reason to overspend for him considering who we had. Hindsight is always 20/20 though of course. Imagine if we had kept Milt, Bruce and Geroy together? Hindsight kills me sometimes.
Mr. Perfect Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 The difference is, is that at the time Simon was not better than Milt, Bruce, or Gordon. No one knew what Simon was going to become. He only had 725 yards for us in 2000 before he went to the NFL. There was no reason to overspend for him considering who we had. Hindsight is always 20/20 though of course. Imagine if we had kept Milt, Bruce and Geroy together? Hindsight kills me sometimes. Considering the CFL was uncapped and Bauer forced Taman to a tight budget, I doubt that being possible considering the money that guys like Khari, Roberts, Sellers, Brown, and other elite players commanded at that time.
SPuDS Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 Alex Hall = Geroy Simon? Hes a very good DE but I mean Simon was one of the best, if not the best receiver in CFL history... But i do agree with the idea that he could easily go on to do awesome elsewhere (and against us) or we can figure it out and not pass on 12-15 sacks and some very good run stopping for a pass rush specialist..
17to85 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 The difference is, is that at the time Simon was not better than Milt, Bruce, or Gordon. No one knew what Simon was going to become. He only had 725 yards for us in 2000 before he went to the NFL. There was no reason to overspend for him considering who we had. Hindsight is always 20/20 though of course. Imagine if we had kept Milt, Bruce and Geroy together? Hindsight kills me sometimes. Considering the CFL was uncapped and Bauer forced Taman to a tight budget, I doubt that being possible considering the money that guys like Khari, Roberts, Sellers, Brown, and other elite players commanded at that time. I think people forget just how loaded that team was. Bobby Gordon might have been old, but he was a favourite target of Kharis in clutch time and you don't just cut that at the drop of a hat for a young guy with potential when you have another young guy loaded with potential in Arland Bruce already on the team. Plus you still had your super star SB in Stegall and a top RB in Roberts. There was still only one football around back then. I hate the comparison now because our defensive line right now isn't nearly as stacked as our receivers were back then. Mr. Perfect 1
rebusrankin Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 I recall well how good Bobby Gordon was, I still feel Taman should have signed Simon and cut Mills since we had Roberts, Mills and Eric Blount at the time.
17to85 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 I recall well how good Bobby Gordon was, I still feel Taman should have signed Simon and cut Mills since we had Roberts, Mills and Eric Blount at the time. But cutting Mills doesn't give you more receivers on the field all the time, and it's very likely that if they had kept him that Geroy Simon wouldn't have developed into the player he became. He would have still been 2nd fiddle at best to Stegall, he would have had to deal with the shitty quarterbacks post Khari and the shitty coaches post Ritchie.
Noeller Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 I hate revisionist history so much... 17to85 1
mbrg Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 Darrin Bauming @DarrinBauming 1m O'Shea doesn't see where recent NFL-cut and former #Bombers and #Riders defensive end Alex Hall fits in on his team. Whose job does he take? I remember when Geroy Simon came back from the NFL .... coach couldn't see where he would fit into their plans either I would sooner make the argument that if we signed Bryant because we want to have veteran depth at the receiver position, that same logic could be extended to Hall and our Dline. Couldn't tell you if his skill set falls within the demands of an Etchvery Dlineman. He certainly doesn't lack athleticism. Gorgeous Bobby G will always have a roster spot on my Bomber team. The man was money. Pure money. Mr. Perfect and SPuDS 2
Tracker Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 The difference is, is that at the time Simon was not better than Milt, Bruce, or Gordon. No one knew what Simon was going to become. He only had 725 yards for us in 2000 before he went to the NFL. There was no reason to overspend for him considering who we had. Hindsight is always 20/20 though of course. Imagine if we had kept Milt, Bruce and Geroy together? Hindsight kills me sometimes. Considering the CFL was uncapped and Bauer forced Taman to a tight budget, I doubt that being possible considering the money that guys like Khari, Roberts, Sellers, Brown, and other elite players commanded at that time. I think people forget just how loaded that team was. Bobby Gordon might have been old, but he was a favourite target of Kharis in clutch time and you don't just cut that at the drop of a hat for a young guy with potential when you have another young guy loaded with potential in Arland Bruce already on the team. Plus you still had your super star SB in Stegall and a top RB in Roberts. There was still only one football around back then. I hate the comparison now because our defensive line right now isn't nearly as stacked as our receivers were back then. Aaah, the good old days....I'm getting all teary-eyed.
SPuDS Posted August 27, 2014 Report Posted August 27, 2014 Its such a shame that bobby gordon got old, lol.. Ditto derek armstrong tho not as talented overall... Plus he gets bonus points for being an ex-rider who came here and did pretty good
iso_55 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Posted August 27, 2014 I don't really see a need for Bombers to go after Hall. well I am saying this with all due respect, but you're out of your mind. This team NEEDS help on the d-line. Last couple games we have absolutely sucked getting pressure on qbs from the DL. Getting a top teir pass rusher would do all kinds of good for this team. I read somewhere that Hall doesn't fit into Etch's defensive schemes. Apparently MOS said that. I was surprised.
iso_55 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Posted August 27, 2014 Its such a shame that bobby gordon got old, lol.. Ditto derek armstrong tho not as talented overall... Plus he gets bonus points for being an ex-rider who came here and did pretty good Wish Kenny Ploen had stayed 28. We'd have 40 Grey Cups by now.
Floyd Posted August 27, 2014 Report Posted August 27, 2014 Its such a shame that bobby gordon got old, lol.. Ditto derek armstrong tho not as talented overall... Plus he gets bonus points for being an ex-rider who came here and did pretty good Wish Kenny Ploen had stayed 28. We'd have 40 Grey Cups by now. Not without Leo Lewis.
kelownabomberfan Posted August 27, 2014 Report Posted August 27, 2014 I hate revisionist history so much... So Winston Churchill wasn't a war criminal? Hmmm...I'll have to let my neighbor know that he's wasting money sending his kid to university to learn that crap.
Jpan85 Posted August 27, 2014 Author Report Posted August 27, 2014 Which war because his planning of the Gallipoli offensive was pretty much criminal Blueandgold 1
do or die Posted August 27, 2014 Report Posted August 27, 2014 Strategically, Gallipoli actually had some merit....it was the execution of it, that was wretched......Not having a joint naval/army effort right upfront...was major fail from the get-go. The myopic and feeble leadership from the front commanders, helped seal the deal. kelownabomberfan 1
KptKrunch Posted August 27, 2014 Report Posted August 27, 2014 Can't believe some of the comments of us not 'needing' Hall or "Hall doesn't fit in Etch's defense". Reminds me, a few years ago, when we had a young Canadian Olineman at guard and some poster here (same one maybe?) went on a bit of a rant on how 'overrated' he was and he wasn't even the 3rd best olineman on our team (or something to that affect). The following season was his last here, and signed at home and all Brendon Labatte is now is (arguably) the best Canadian Olineman in the CFL. Yep - don't sign Hall - we don't need him... Phuuuuuulease Blue-urns 1
kelownabomberfan Posted August 28, 2014 Report Posted August 28, 2014 Strategically, Gallipoli actually had some merit....it was the execution of it, that was wretched......Not having a joint naval/army effort right upfront...was major fail from the get-go. The myopic and feeble leadership from the front commanders, helped seal the deal. if it had worked, it would have opened a two-front war, which could have ended WWI a lot sooner. Considering the millions that died in the following three years, it was a gamble worth taking.
mfranc Posted August 28, 2014 Report Posted August 28, 2014 Can't believe some of the comments of us not 'needing' Hall or "Hall doesn't fit in Etch's defense". Reminds me, a few years ago, when we had a young Canadian Olineman at guard and some poster here (same one maybe?) went on a bit of a rant on how 'overrated' he was and he wasn't even the 3rd best olineman on our team (or something to that affect). The following season was his last here, and signed at home and all Brendon Labatte is now is (arguably) the best Canadian Olineman in the CFL. Yep - don't sign Hall - we don't need him... Phuuuuuulease Hall fits in any defence, he's that good. The thing is that signing expensive free-agents will cost you depth at other positions so it has to be determined if he is worth the cost. For me, QB, o-line and National Depth are how championship teams are built.
Dirty30 Posted August 28, 2014 Report Posted August 28, 2014 I believe The Bombers are making a huge mistake if the pass on Hall. It is guaranteed that Hall would make the rest of the Dline more dominant. mfranc 1
mfranc Posted August 28, 2014 Report Posted August 28, 2014 I believe The Bombers are making a huge mistake if the pass on Hall. It is guaranteed that Hall would make the rest of the Dline more dominant. It would make the Bomber D-Line better for sure. I think the Bombers need to focus more on improving their O-Line and overall National Depth (like every other team after the REDBLACK pillaging).
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