Migs Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 well you certainly hope so but what if he plays a couple more games that shitty? If he looked rattled by the pressure what's to stop teams from just sending pressure after him and waiting for mistakes? I would also like to point out that something you rider fans don't want to admit is that it's not just one bad game, he looked poor against Winnipeg as well so it's 1 and a bit games, in a row, that he looked poor.I don't think he looked poor at all against Winnipeg, he did what a backup is supposed to do. Manage & win the game.And like I said already, if he plays again like he did yesterday they put in Doege who's also taking 1st team reps in practice. I think Cortez's record speaks for itself, he knows what he's got. you are letting the final result cloud your judgement. He was 2 of 5 passing. That's not good at all. He is fortunate that his defense got a turnover late in the game or you might be on a 2 game losing streak because the backup qb can't get the offense going.A win is a win, against the Lions & Bombers he didn't do anything to hurt his team. Thank the Lord he wasn't throwing a bunch of 4thquarter INTs. He got stopped twice in the dying minutes to give the Bombers chances to win... Isn't that doing something to hurt his team? That the Bombers failed to capitalize is nothing to do with Sunseri. Stop being a homer and admit that the only time Sunseri actually did look good was in that BC game. He was fortunate against Winnipeg that his defense bailed him out and he was **** against Hamilton. Fortunate? Do you really want to start using that word when talking QBs? Migs 1
Migs Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 This forum is quickly losing its appeal.You don't like football discussion between rivals? Relax it's all in fun.
SPuDS Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 Nope. Not going to get dragged into a bickerfest.. Willy wasnt the QB of discussion so bringing him in as context is simply a backhanded insult because you feel like we are insulting tino..Check the thread title. Cuz for the last page and a half its been about willy.. Smh.
Migs Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 Don't know why i feel the need to ask this, but... What the hell do the rider fans expect Cortez to say? Yeah you know with durant out ,we are ******... we are so screwed, our backups are total crap. Man, i'm going to have to redesign the entire offence now because these quarterbacks don't even understand what the C in CFL means. Seriously? Of course he is going to say what he said, just like last year and the year before our coaches said oh yeah buck pierce? oh yeah max hall? oh yeah justin goltz? oh yeah alex brink? oh yeah joey elliott, For sure we are confident in them but bet your ass reality is they were pulling out every last remaining piece of hair they had when they had to play these guys. Of course coaches are going to try to stroke the young qb's ego a wee bit, he's not gonna come out and say we are screwed, he's going to say i believe in him, but reality is, whether he believes in them or not is irrelevant, it doesn't change the fact that his hand is being forced and he's forced to play one of them because durant is hurt for the season. He's done. There are no other options out there regardless of if you think Troy Smith is an option, He isn't, he sucks worse than sunseri really. Fact is, riders have no choice but to play these guys so of course the coaches have faith in them, if the coaches didn't have faith in them, they wouldn't be very good coaches. Good point, and they wouldn't be here in the first place if they didn't like their skill sets.
Migs Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 Nope. Not going to get dragged into a bickerfest.. Willy wasnt the QB of discussion so bringing him in as context is simply a backhanded insult because you feel like we are insulting tino..Check the thread title. Cuz for the last page and a half its been about willy..Smh. So you don't like threads that go back on topic?
M.O.A.B. Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 I wish on our next game against the Ham, the Bombers dont stay too much with 1 QB. If Brohm can't make it happen in the first half, make a change and give the second half to Marve. Depends really. What if the receivers are dropping balls? What if Brohm is getting crushed back there on every play because our Oline sucks. Lots of variables here, I'm sure with a few practice days Brohm will look better, If not, then next man up for sure but gotta give him some time to show what he's got or doesn't have. Don't think you know that after a half of football unless the guy looks totally lost out there. I would let Brohm stay under center, as long as he can get some first downs even if the O can't score. Otherwise, sit him and it's Marve's time.
Goalie Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 I wish on our next game against the Ham, the Bombers dont stay too much with 1 QB. If Brohm can't make it happen in the first half, make a change and give the second half to Marve. Depends really. What if the receivers are dropping balls? What if Brohm is getting crushed back there on every play because our Oline sucks. Lots of variables here, I'm sure with a few practice days Brohm will look better, If not, then next man up for sure but gotta give him some time to show what he's got or doesn't have. Don't think you know that after a half of football unless the guy looks totally lost out there. I would let Brohm stay under center, as long as he can get some first downs even if the O can't score. Otherwise, sit him and it's Marve's time. Probably not, Brohm will get a game or so to show what he can do, with a week of practice or so he should be better, Can't throw the guy under the bus like that, guess some have learned nothing from all the other qb's we have thrown under buses after their first start in the league. If Brohm looks terrible, sure marve can go in but that's not just all on brohm, it's on the other guys on the field too.
max power Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 This forum is quickly losing its appeal.You don't like football discussion between rivals? Relax it's all in fun. I think people just liked it better when this was the place to go for intelligent football discussion. Fred C Dobbs 1
SPuDS Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 Ok lemme rephrase.. He wasnt the QB of discussion post massive thread jack.. But now sunseri is being discussed and using willy as a measuring stick is kind of fruitless.. Hes led how many 4th quarter comebacks now?Same amount of 4th quarter comebacks as Willy after his first start. Im talking about willy, this season, do try to keep up.. Sunseri, a backup, is not comparable to willy, the starter..
SPuDS Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 Nope. Not going to get dragged into a bickerfest.. Willy wasnt the QB of discussion so bringing him in as context is simply a backhanded insult because you feel like we are insulting tino..Check the thread title. Cuz for the last page and a half its been about willy..Smh. So you don't like threads that go back on topic? I know you are but what am i?
GCn20 Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 I expect that Brohm should be much better after receiving most of the first team reps. Will it be good enough? Who knows. The rest of the team has to really step up.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 *This scenario all depends on if Drew is not hurt as badly as we may have feared on Saturday night The Riders appear to be in deep doo doo because of their QB situation, and so are we without Willy. We know the Riders won't have their starter for the rest of the regular season so ... if Drew can play and we get some of our injuries back I believe we can make a run at fourth in the West. The Riders have as bad if not worse of a schedule than ours and other than Ottawa I wonder who Tino can actually beat? making the Riders miss the playoffs would be sweet and I like our chances crossing over better than going West. When are we going to hear about Drew's prognosis anyway? edit* there's still a chance Bob Irving @BobIrvingCJOB 11m Great news for blue bombers--No major structural damage to Drew willys shoulder. He's considered week to week, although unlikely for sept27 It's WPG vs B.C. for 4th. Such is life we finish 5th and out of the playoffs BUT we would be in 1st place in the East and THEN we'll see where those separate division lovers are. Brandon Blue&Gold 1
GCn20 Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 *This scenario all depends on if Drew is not hurt as badly as we may have feared on Saturday night The Riders appear to be in deep doo doo because of their QB situation, and so are we without Willy. We know the Riders won't have their starter for the rest of the regular season so ... if Drew can play and we get some of our injuries back I believe we can make a run at fourth in the West. The Riders have as bad if not worse of a schedule than ours and other than Ottawa I wonder who Tino can actually beat? making the Riders miss the playoffs would be sweet and I like our chances crossing over better than going West. When are we going to hear about Drew's prognosis anyway? edit* there's still a chance Bob Irving @BobIrvingCJOB 11m Great news for blue bombers--No major structural damage to Drew willys shoulder. He's considered week to week, although unlikely for sept27 It's WPG vs B.C. for 4th. Such is life we finish 5th and out of the playoffs BUT we would be in 1st place in the East and THEN we'll see where those separate division lovers are. I really like BC's chances at 3rd right now. They have the season series over the RIders and the Riders are in big trouble offensively right now. I would say that the battle for 4th will be between us and Regina.
Migs Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 Ok lemme rephrase.. He wasnt the QB of discussion post massive thread jack.. But now sunseri is being discussed and using willy as a measuring stick is kind of fruitless.. Hes led how many 4th quarter comebacks now?Same amount of 4th quarter comebacks as Willy after his first start. Im talking about willy, this season, do try to keep up.. Sunseri, a backup, is not comparable to willy, the starter..Exactly, it's way too early to write off Sunseri after one start.
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 *This scenario all depends on if Drew is not hurt as badly as we may have feared on Saturday night The Riders appear to be in deep doo doo because of their QB situation, and so are we without Willy. We know the Riders won't have their starter for the rest of the regular season so ... if Drew can play and we get some of our injuries back I believe we can make a run at fourth in the West. The Riders have as bad if not worse of a schedule than ours and other than Ottawa I wonder who Tino can actually beat? making the Riders miss the playoffs would be sweet and I like our chances crossing over better than going West. When are we going to hear about Drew's prognosis anyway? edit* there's still a chance Bob Irving @BobIrvingCJOB 11m Great news for blue bombers--No major structural damage to Drew willys shoulder. He's considered week to week, although unlikely for sept27 It's WPG vs B.C. for 4th. Such is life we finish 5th and out of the playoffs BUT we would be in 1st place in the East and THEN we'll see where those separate division lovers are. Sunseri vs Calgary and Edmonton x5? I have a feeling BC isn't going to have a tough time catching and passing the Riders. BC shouldn't have too much trouble winning at least 3 of their remaining games, probably should win 4. Saskatchewan would have to win 2-3 games to match them. We have to win 3 more games than the Riders in the final 3rd to pass them in the standings. Not very likely IMO. Brandon Blue&Gold 1
Blueandgold Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised if Winnipeg/Sask/BC all ended up with ten wins.
Migs Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 *This scenario all depends on if Drew is not hurt as badly as we may have feared on Saturday night The Riders appear to be in deep doo doo because of their QB situation, and so are we without Willy. We know the Riders won't have their starter for the rest of the regular season so ... if Drew can play and we get some of our injuries back I believe we can make a run at fourth in the West. The Riders have as bad if not worse of a schedule than ours and other than Ottawa I wonder who Tino can actually beat? making the Riders miss the playoffs would be sweet and I like our chances crossing over better than going West. When are we going to hear about Drew's prognosis anyway? edit* there's still a chance Bob Irving @BobIrvingCJOB 11m Great news for blue bombers--No major structural damage to Drew willys shoulder. He's considered week to week, although unlikely for sept27 It's WPG vs B.C. for 4th.Such is life we finish 5th and out of the playoffs BUT we would be in 1st place in the East and THEN we'll see where those separate division lovers are. I really like BC's chances at 3rd right now. They have the season series over the RIders and the Riders are in big trouble offensively right now. I would say that the battle for 4th will be between us and Regina.That's possible, thankfully we are essentially 6pts up on you with the season series & you've still played 1 more game than us. If we beat Ottawa at home this weekend, it's essentially 8pts up on you guys b/c we got the season series. Bombers best hope to make playoffs is catching BC.
Migs Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 *This scenario all depends on if Drew is not hurt as badly as we may have feared on Saturday night The Riders appear to be in deep doo doo because of their QB situation, and so are we without Willy. We know the Riders won't have their starter for the rest of the regular season so ... if Drew can play and we get some of our injuries back I believe we can make a run at fourth in the West. The Riders have as bad if not worse of a schedule than ours and other than Ottawa I wonder who Tino can actually beat? making the Riders miss the playoffs would be sweet and I like our chances crossing over better than going West. When are we going to hear about Drew's prognosis anyway? edit* there's still a chance Bob Irving @BobIrvingCJOB 11m Great news for blue bombers--No major structural damage to Drew willys shoulder. He's considered week to week, although unlikely for sept27 It's WPG vs B.C. for 4th.Such is life we finish 5th and out of the playoffs BUT we would be in 1st place in the East and THEN we'll see where those separate division lovers are. Sunseri vs Calgary and Edmonton x5? I have a feeling BC isn't going to have a tough time catching and passing the Riders. BC shouldn't have too much trouble winning at least 3 of their remaining games, probably should win 4. Saskatchewan would have to win 2-3 games to match them. We have to win 3 more games than the Riders in the final 3rd to pass them in the standings. Not very likely IMO. Actually it's 4 more games if we beat Ottawa this weekend.
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised if Winnipeg/Sask/BC all ended up with ten wins. I'd be very surprised if we ended up with 10 wins. I'd be happy with 3-3 in the last 6, with one of those wins hopefully being the game vs BC. I don't expect us to do better than 1-2 vs Edmonton and Calgary, more likely 0-3.
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 *This scenario all depends on if Drew is not hurt as badly as we may have feared on Saturday night The Riders appear to be in deep doo doo because of their QB situation, and so are we without Willy. We know the Riders won't have their starter for the rest of the regular season so ... if Drew can play and we get some of our injuries back I believe we can make a run at fourth in the West. The Riders have as bad if not worse of a schedule than ours and other than Ottawa I wonder who Tino can actually beat? making the Riders miss the playoffs would be sweet and I like our chances crossing over better than going West. When are we going to hear about Drew's prognosis anyway? edit* there's still a chance Bob Irving @BobIrvingCJOB 11m Great news for blue bombers--No major structural damage to Drew willys shoulder. He's considered week to week, although unlikely for sept27 It's WPG vs B.C. for 4th.Such is life we finish 5th and out of the playoffs BUT we would be in 1st place in the East and THEN we'll see where those separate division lovers are. Sunseri vs Calgary and Edmonton x5? I have a feeling BC isn't going to have a tough time catching and passing the Riders. BC shouldn't have too much trouble winning at least 3 of their remaining games, probably should win 4. Saskatchewan would have to win 2-3 games to match them. We have to win 3 more games than the Riders in the final 3rd to pass them in the standings. Not very likely IMO. Actually it's 4 more games if we beat Ottawa this weekend. Bombers have to finish with 3 more wins than the Riders get over the rest of this season, that's what I'm saying, not 3 total.
Blueandgold Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised if Winnipeg/Sask/BC all ended up with ten wins. I'd be very surprised if we ended up with 10 wins. I'd be happy with 3-3 in the last 6, with one of those wins hopefully being the game vs BC. I don't expect us to do better than 1-2 vs Edmonton and Calgary, more likely 0-3. I was thinking victories against Hamilton, Ottawa, BC and one of Calgary and Edmonton. Might be a tad optimistic but I think we can do it if Willy is good to go and I think that's what it's going to take to make the playoffs.
AtlanticRiderFan Posted September 16, 2014 Report Posted September 16, 2014 Last time I checked the Riders are challenging Calgary for 1st. And with the Esks.
GCn20 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Posted September 16, 2014 Last time I checked the Riders are challenging Calgary for 1st. The last time you checked was Durant still in the lineup? Because that, my green goggled friend, changed everything.
GCn20 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Posted September 16, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised if Winnipeg/Sask/BC all ended up with ten wins. I'd be very surprised if we ended up with 10 wins. I'd be happy with 3-3 in the last 6, with one of those wins hopefully being the game vs BC. I don't expect us to do better than 1-2 vs Edmonton and Calgary, more likely 0-3. I was thinking victories against Hamilton, Ottawa, BC and one of Calgary and Edmonton. Might be a tad optimistic but I think we can do it if Willy is good to go and I think that's what it's going to take to make the playoffs. We have all been awfully down on our team for the last few weeks, and I get why. But we have a good team. We need to be better but if we are we can compete with anyone. There is no reason we should be handing out losses to anyone. We may not win them all but I strongly believe that we should not be conceding losses to any team before the game is played. We have as much potential of having a late season winning streak as anyone...well, except the Riders...they are screwed. comedygeek 1
iso_55 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Posted September 16, 2014 One thing I find amusing is that many nonRiders fans say that Durant is overrated & average at best and then as soon as he's out for the year they say the Riders are doomed. Lol Well, when you have a drop like that at backup.... Like we do as well.
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