Starting 3 Canadian receivers next season?

[gbill2004]

How about we sign every National with a pulse and bring them into TC and then worry about the ratio when we can see who can actually play.

CFL has a limit on the number of players that can be in TC.

[DR. CFL]

Yes they do but you can have 75 players signed nothing says how many Imports or Nationals there needs to be.

[gbill2004]

Yes they do but you can have 75 players signed nothing says how many Imports or Nationals there needs to be.

 

So your strategy is to bring 75 Nationals to TC?  Okay. 

[wookie]

the bombers have till dec 15 to sign him others he goes into the draft, or can go to the u of m to play ball. his jr career is over now

[DR. CFL]

No the strategy is to stop trying to make a predetermination on the ratio and muster a stable of quality Nationals and let them determine the ratio based on their skill and abilities. How tough is that?

[pigseye]

 

So very early to begin talking about how our NI roster will shape up next year. I am sure that MOS and the staff have had the discussion out of due diligence but without knowing who's staying, going, or will be signed/drafted this discussion is really just flapping your gums at this point.

There are so many variables that can play out still. An example is what if we lose Sears to the NFL? I would bet that we would start  Newman and Leggett at Safety and SAM thus creating a 2nd legit NI on D. Heck, Bilikudi and Mulumba could be signed and we have 3 or 4 quality NI starters on D.  If this is the case, we would be kinda stupid to go with 3 NI receivers. There are so many what ifs that can be rolled out right now that any suggestion that our coaches have any concrete roster plan for next year would kinda be stupid and inflexible. Too many dominoes still to fall.

 

Of course.  They can, should and will explore all options for putting the best combination of 16 imports, 7 NIs and 1 QB on the field.  And they won't be so close-minded as to rule possibilities out 5 months before they even have the players assembled.

 

 

You assume, we just heard Walters say how there was no plan in place for the oline for 2014 and why we ended up with internationals playing. This is the Blue Bombers we are talking about after all.

[Mr Dee]

 

 

You assume, we just heard Walters say how there was no plan in place for the oline for 2014 and why we ended up with internationals playing. This is the Blue Bombers we are talking about after all.

 

 

He also said they were close to, but didn't quite get to sign, some of the O-Line guys they had worked out.

The NFL is casting a wider net on O-Linemen and CFL teams are getting squeezed more.

He explained how David Fourcault, drafted by Montreal was worked out by the Panthers and is now a starting tackle for them.

More teams want capable players.

[pigseye]

 

 

 

You assume, we just heard Walters say how there was no plan in place for the oline for 2014 and why we ended up with internationals playing. This is the Blue Bombers we are talking about after all.

 

 

He also said they were close to, but didn't quite get to sign, some of the O-Line guys they had worked out.

The NFL is casting a wider net on O-Linemen and CFL teams are getting squeezed more.

He explained how David Fourcault, drafted by Montreal was worked out by the Panthers and is now a starting tackle for them.

More teams want capable players.

 

 

Yup, he admitted the scouting dept was thrown into the fire along with basically everything else last season and that was a priority to correct.

 

Very good interview and for the first time in a long time I liked what I heard from a Bomber GM, he gets it.

[M.O.A.B.]

Kurt Goodrich and Braiden Watson.. Because they play for the rifles, we get dibs on them before draft or...

I confused.

 

They count as territorial exemption, only the Bombers can first sign them.

 

If they sign with the Bombers and then cut eventually, they will count as free agents.

[Fatty Liver]

 

 

 

 

You assume, we just heard Walters say how there was no plan in place for the oline for 2014 and why we ended up with internationals playing. This is the Blue Bombers we are talking about after all.

 

 

He also said they were close to, but didn't quite get to sign, some of the O-Line guys they had worked out.

The NFL is casting a wider net on O-Linemen and CFL teams are getting squeezed more.

He explained how David Fourcault, drafted by Montreal was worked out by the Panthers and is now a starting tackle for them.

More teams want capable players.

 

 

Yup, he admitted the scouting dept was thrown into the fire along with basically everything else last season and that was a priority to correct.

 

Very good interview and for the first time in a long time I liked what I heard from a Bomber GM, he gets it.

 

 

 

You can't use that phrase.  O'Shea owns it.

[GCn20]

 I have heard that Goodrich is secretly a Rider fan and secretly wants to go there instead of the Bombers. Take it with a grain of salt though....my source was Migs. lol

[SPuDS]

Kurt Goodrich and Braiden Watson.. Because they play for the rifles, we get dibs on them before draft or...

I confused.

 

They count as territorial exemption, only the Bombers can first sign them.

 

If they sign with the Bombers and then cut eventually, they will count as free agents.

And this is because they are not university players but local players in a junior league?

[Mike]

I have heard that Goodrich is secretly a Rider fan and secretly wants to go there instead of the Bombers. Take it with a grain of salt though....my source was Migs. lol

Yeah no.

[James]

 I have heard that Goodrich is secretly a Rider fan and secretly wants to go there instead of the Bombers. Take it with a grain of salt though....my source was Migs. lol

 

had a good laugh here... thanks for that!

[rebusrankin]

Sign Goodrich. Heck sign both.

[mbrg]

 

 

Kurt Goodrich and Braiden Watson.. Because they play for the rifles, we get dibs on them before draft or...

I confused.

 

They count as territorial exemption, only the Bombers can first sign them.

 

If they sign with the Bombers and then cut eventually, they will count as free agents.

And this is because they are not university players but local players in a junior league?

 

 

As I understand it, yes.  It's a strange rule that shouldn't exist in modern times, but if we can finally have something that works to our advantage it will be my new favourite rule.

[DR. CFL]

Because there is a huge inequity in the distribution of Junior teams in Canada there are is ongoing discussions to incorporate Junior players into the CFL draft giving all teams a chance at the improving talents base in Junior football. Can't happen soon enough.

[gbill2004]

What's the scouting report on Goodrich?

[M.O.A.B.]

*deleted*

[Jaxon]

Because there is a huge inequity in the distribution of Junior teams in Canada there are is ongoing discussions to incorporate Junior players into the CFL draft giving all teams a chance at the improving talents base in Junior football. Can't happen soon enough.

I completely disagree.   The CJFL has a very strong working relationship with the CFL, especially in the PFC.  (Prairie Football Conference)    This agreement allows CFL teams to have junior players in their camps without counting against the numbers.  It also allows for players to practice with the CFL club while continuing to play for their junior club.   CFL teams are allowed 4 players in this window.    It is part of their commitment to help develop football players in Canada.    The CFL teams (especially in the West) financially support the junior clubs.   Their reward is that they can protect the players that they have invested in, but only if that player doesn't play CIS.   Once that player plays in the CFL or CIS, he becomes just like any other player, and the special status is removed.

 

Without the agreements, it would likely be the death of Junior football in Canada, as most teams would not survive financially without the support of the CFL.  Running a team on the Prairies is about a quarter million dollar per year program.  It is true that there are more teams in BC, but historically, they haven't been as talented.  The PFC teams have won 4 of the last 5 championships, and 15 of the last 20.   The Riders have been the most successful in having players move from Junior directly to the CFL.   The majority of former Junior players who go onto the CFL, spend their first couple of years in Junior and then progress to the CIS and are exposed to the draft.   The CJFL is actually the best choice for most players coming out of high school, as they can play at a high level for 2 years without burning any CIS eligibility.  Top players in the league get the best college scholarship offers, usually much better than players coming fresh from high school.    The CJFL is an "age group" league, so unlike the CIS there is no incentives to "red shirt" a player.   The other role that the CJFL has taken on, is it provides a high level of football for players who may not be well suited to university, or who's school of choice doesn't have a football program.   Many Rifles are students at RRCC or UofW, in addition to those who are at UofM or have jobs.

 

As for Goodrich, he is an outstanding young talent, who puts more time in the gym and training than most pro players do.      2 years ago, when Goodrich and Carter were both on the Rifles, they were both outstanding.   Carter was more the Joe Poplawski type of receiver, great hands, good routes, very reliable.   Goodrich was more of a big play guy (the Milt of the CJFL).  Faster than anyone else in the CJFL, and once he got into open field it was a touchdown.   That has continued even though he normally gets double coverage and teams try to bracket him.  I certainly hope the Bombers sign him and bring him to camp.

[gbill2004]

Because there is a huge inequity in the distribution of Junior teams in Canada there are is ongoing discussions to incorporate Junior players into the CFL draft giving all teams a chance at the improving talents base in Junior football. Can't happen soon enough.

I completely disagree. The CJFL has a very strong working relationship with the CFL, especially in the PFC. (Prairie Football Conference) This agreement allows CFL teams to have junior players in their camps without counting against the numbers. It also allows for players to practice with the CFL club while continuing to play for their junior club. CFL teams are allowed 4 players in this window. It is part of their commitment to help develop football players in Canada. The CFL teams (especially in the West) financially support the junior clubs. Their reward is that they can protect the players that they have invested in, but only if that player doesn't play CIS. Once that player plays in the CFL or CIS, he becomes just like any other player, and the special status is removed.

Without the agreements, it would likely be the death of Junior football in Canada, as most teams would not survive financially without the support of the CFL. Running a team on the Prairies is about a quarter million dollar per year program. It is true that there are more teams in BC, but historically, they haven't been as talented. The PFC teams have won 4 of the last 5 championships, and 15 of the last 20. The Riders have been the most successful in having players move from Junior directly to the CFL. The majority of former Junior players who go onto the CFL, spend their first couple of years in Junior and then progress to the CIS and are exposed to the draft. The CJFL is actually the best choice for most players coming out of high school, as they can play at a high level for 2 years without burning any CIS eligibility. Top players in the league get the best college scholarship offers, usually much better than players coming fresh from high school. The CJFL is an "age group" league, so unlike the CIS there is no incentives to "red shirt" a player. The other role that the CJFL has taken on, is it provides a high level of football for players who may not be well suited to university, or who's school of choice doesn't have a football program. Many Rifles are students at RRCC or UofW, in addition to those who are at UofM or have jobs.

As for Goodrich, he is an outstanding young talent, who puts more time in the gym and training than most pro players do. 2 years ago, when Goodrich and Carter were both on the Rifles, they were both outstanding. Carter was more the Joe Poplawski type of receiver, great hands, good routes, very reliable. Goodrich was more of a big play guy (the Milt of the CJFL). Faster than anyone else in the CJFL, and once he got into open field it was a touchdown. That has continued even though he normally gets double coverage and teams try to bracket him. I certainly hope the Bombers sign him and bring him to camp.

Great read...thanks Jaxon!

[DR. CFL]

So you then think it is equatable for the Lions to have exclusive rights to potentially over 250 players based on them having 4 or 5 teams in BC while Winnipeg has the rights to 50 players? We are not talking about the agreement that allows junior players to be non counter and allowing them to go to TCs. We are doing about teams having equal access to players in a draft.

[SPuDS]

So you then think it is equatable for the Lions to have exclusive rights to potentially over 250 players based on them having 4 or 5 teams in BC while Winnipeg has the rights to 50 players? We are not talking about the agreement that allows junior players to be non counter and allowing them to go to TCs. We are doing about teams having equal access to players in a draft.

Its not the lions fault grassroots football is so huge in their province or that they have such a larger population base..

[mbrg]

 

Because there is a huge inequity in the distribution of Junior teams in Canada there are is ongoing discussions to incorporate Junior players into the CFL draft giving all teams a chance at the improving talents base in Junior football. Can't happen soon enough.

I completely disagree.   The CJFL has a very strong working relationship with the CFL, especially in the PFC.  (Prairie Football Conference)    This agreement allows CFL teams to have junior players in their camps without counting against the numbers.  It also allows for players to practice with the CFL club while continuing to play for their junior club.   CFL teams are allowed 4 players in this window.    It is part of their commitment to help develop football players in Canada.    The CFL teams (especially in the West) financially support the junior clubs.   Their reward is that they can protect the players that they have invested in, but only if that player doesn't play CIS.   Once that player plays in the CFL or CIS, he becomes just like any other player, and the special status is removed.

 

Without the agreements, it would likely be the death of Junior football in Canada, as most teams would not survive financially without the support of the CFL.  Running a team on the Prairies is about a quarter million dollar per year program.  It is true that there are more teams in BC, but historically, they haven't been as talented.  The PFC teams have won 4 of the last 5 championships, and 15 of the last 20.   The Riders have been the most successful in having players move from Junior directly to the CFL.   The majority of former Junior players who go onto the CFL, spend their first couple of years in Junior and then progress to the CIS and are exposed to the draft.   The CJFL is actually the best choice for most players coming out of high school, as they can play at a high level for 2 years without burning any CIS eligibility.  Top players in the league get the best college scholarship offers, usually much better than players coming fresh from high school.    The CJFL is an "age group" league, so unlike the CIS there is no incentives to "red shirt" a player.   The other role that the CJFL has taken on, is it provides a high level of football for players who may not be well suited to university, or who's school of choice doesn't have a football program.   Many Rifles are students at RRCC or UofW, in addition to those who are at UofM or have jobs.

 

As for Goodrich, he is an outstanding young talent, who puts more time in the gym and training than most pro players do.      2 years ago, when Goodrich and Carter were both on the Rifles, they were both outstanding.   Carter was more the Joe Poplawski type of receiver, great hands, good routes, very reliable.   Goodrich was more of a big play guy (the Milt of the CJFL).  Faster than anyone else in the CJFL, and once he got into open field it was a touchdown.   That has continued even though he normally gets double coverage and teams try to bracket him.  I certainly hope the Bombers sign him and bring him to camp.

 

 

The flashlight of knowledge helps illuminate the darkness of ignorance.  This post is awesome times a thousand.  Thanks Jaxon.

[DR. CFL]

I didn't say it was the Lions fault. I said there needs to be an adjustment in the process where by each team is afforded an opportunity to draft Junior players and remove the territorial protection. This is no different than when the territorial protection was removed from CIS players back in the day because of the lack of balance.