George Cortez won't be back with Riders in 2015

[SPuDS]

This same horrific group of coordinators got us off to one hell of a start, did they not? Its not like we were 2-16..

If they are back, so be it... whos to say this is even the case yet, i mean the dust hasnt even finished falling yet chicken littles..

[iso_55]

This same horrific group of coordinators got us off to one hell of a start, did they not? Its not like we were 2-16..

If they are back, so be it... whos to say this is even the case yet, i mean the dust hasnt even finished falling yet chicken littles..

[iso_55]

Mike O'Shea said on Hustler & Lawless Friday that he hasn't finished his coaches evaluations because he hasn't figured out the way he wants to do it. I just went "What???" 

[Mark H.]

This same horrific group of coordinators got us off to one hell of a start, did they not? Its not like we were 2-16..

If they are back, so be it... whos to say this is even the case yet, i mean the dust hasnt even finished falling yet chicken littles..

[sweep the leg]

I'm enjoying the rational discussion in this thread...

 

[iso_55]

The Bombers drive us nuts. Truly....

[TBieber]

History of players not liking George Cortez has often led to a change of scenery. Not sure he would have been back in 2014 if the Riders didn't win last year.

[blitzmore]

The crying and wailing is unbelievable. It isn't a fact yet only rumor.

[Jacquie]

From this article in the Vancouver Sun from June, it sounds like Washington may have been O'Shea's first choice:

 

“When Mike O’Shea became the head coach, they needed a defensive coordinator,” Benevides said of Winnipeg. “I just knew, from what I’d heard, that if Mark was available that would have been a done deal. I knew if there wasn’t a situation provided for Mark, we would lose him. I didn’t want that to occur."

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Lions+assistant+Mark+Washington+wants+better/9919966/story.html#ixzz3Kd9eAjxy

 

Etch was about 4th or 5th choice, wasn't he. It will be interesting to see if O'Shea will want to go after his original choice or not.

[The Unknown Poster]

@BomberJetsTalk: As per @PentonKirk, sounds like Bombers will keep Bellefeuille. Cortez unlikely.

Another horrible decision by my favorite team.

Disagree. I like the idea of wanting improvement but there will always be someone somewhere that somebody would

Argue is better than the guy you have. I don't think marcel was a negative thus I am fine giving him another season. Walters needs upgrade the talent.

[James]

This same horrific group of coordinators got us off to one hell of a start, did they not? Its not like we were 2-16..

If they are back, so be it... whos to say this is even the case yet, i mean the dust hasnt even finished falling yet chicken littles..

Dude, who cares about a good start? Besides, MB really benefitted from Etchevary's defence the first 6 games. Only reason we won so many to start is because the defence was scoring so much and holding teams to very little.

That being said.... Etch always looks like a genius in the first 6, then tanks... Therefore, it's not only MB that needs to go

[rebusrankin]

Marcel was a poor to average OC in Saskatchewan, Montreal, Hamilton and now Winnipeg. How many chances do you give him?

[Mike]

Bob Irving's comments not consistent with Penton's suggestion that the Bombers would not go after Cortez.

[Mark F]

 

From this article in the Vancouver Sun from June, it sounds like Washington may have been O'Shea's first choice:

 

“When Mike O’Shea became the head coach, they needed a defensive coordinator,” Benevides said of Winnipeg. “I just knew, from what I’d heard, that if Mark was available that would have been a done deal. I knew if there wasn’t a situation provided for Mark, we would lose him. I didn’t want that to occur."

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Lions+assistant+Mark+Washington+wants+better/9919966/story.html#ixzz3Kd9eAjxy

 

Etch was about 4th or 5th choice, wasn't he. It will be interesting to see if O'Shea will want to go after his original choice or not.

 

 

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[gbill2004]

Bob Irving's comments not consistent with Penton's suggestion that the Bombers would not go after Cortez.

Interesting. What did Bob say? I do know Penton is tight with Walters and Irving with Wade.

[Mike]

 

Bob Irving's comments not consistent with Penton's suggestion that the Bombers would not go after Cortez.

Interesting. What did Bob say? I do know Penton is tight with Walters and Irving with Wade.

 

 

I'm not going to try and repeat the exact wording because I don't remember but basically that when Saskatchewan makes their staff changes official, it could cause Winnipeg to explore the idea of bringing Cortez and/or Hall aboard.

[gbill2004]

 

 

Bob Irving's comments not consistent with Penton's suggestion that the Bombers would not go after Cortez.

Interesting. What did Bob say? I do know Penton is tight with Walters and Irving with Wade.

 

 

I'm not going to try and repeat the exact wording because I don't remember but basically that when Saskatchewan makes their staff changes official, it could cause Winnipeg to explore the idea of bringing Cortez and/or Hall aboard.

 

[sweep the leg]

Could somebody give a link or point me in the direction of where Penton said all of this.

[gbill2004]

Could somebody give a link or point me in the direction of where Penton said all of this.

Penton said it in his pre-Grey Cup online chat yesterday.   

[Floyd]

If chapdelaine is available, he would be my first pick... Cortez would be nice but bellefuile will likely survive the offseason

[B-F-F-C]

 

 

Bob Irving's comments not consistent with Penton's suggestion that the Bombers would not go after Cortez.

Interesting. What did Bob say? I do know Penton is tight with Walters and Irving with Wade.

 

 

I'm not going to try and repeat the exact wording because I don't remember but basically that when Saskatchewan makes their staff changes official, it could cause Winnipeg to explore the idea of bringing Cortez and/or Hall aboard.

 

 

Interesting but what Bob said seems to be his opinion on what might happen where Penton's tweet seems to be confirming a discussion he had with someone within the WBB organization.  

 

But what I find more interesting is that Penton doesn't mention Etchevery.  Why did the team go out of the way to say MB's safe but not Etchevery?   

[Blueandgold]

 

 

Bob Irving's comments not consistent with Penton's suggestion that the Bombers would not go after Cortez.

Interesting. What did Bob say? I do know Penton is tight with Walters and Irving with Wade.

 

 

I'm not going to try and repeat the exact wording because I don't remember but basically that when Saskatchewan makes their staff changes official, it could cause Winnipeg to explore the idea of bringing Cortez and/or Hall aboard.

 

I'd take Hall AND Cortez over Bellfool and Etch without thinking twice.

[Tracker]

I think Bellefeuille gets a mulligan due to the horrible O-line he inherited and was the worst in the league for most of the year. That really falls on Walters and so I am willing to give Bellefeuille another go at it even though I am not completely sold on him. Etcheverry is another matter altogether and has earned a road map and apple. I still think (and hope) that O'Shea is the right person for head coach but he has to prove that this year.

[mbrg]

 

 

@BomberJetsTalk: As per @PentonKirk, sounds like Bombers will keep Bellefeuille. Cortez unlikely.

Another horrible decision by my favorite team.

Disagree. I like the idea of wanting improvement but there will always be someone somewhere that somebody would

Argue is better than the guy you have. I don't think marcel was a negative thus I am fine giving him another season. Walters needs upgrade the talent.

 

 

I have a position contrary to yours, but am unable to express it in a wildly irrational manner, so it probably does not fit in with the tone of this thread.

[holoman]

I think Bellefeuille gets a mulligan due to the horrible O-line he inherited and was the worst in the league for most of the year. That really falls on Walters and so I am willing to give Bellefeuille another go at it even though I am not completely sold on him. Etcheverry is another matter altogether and has earned a road map and apple. I still think (and hope) that O'Shea is the right person for head coach but he has to prove that this year.

Not defending Etch, but if one gets a mulligan, the other should.  Lets not forget Kuale playing LB which is the equivalent of a crappy o-line.  Lets not forget as well as Wild was lost for a good chuck of the season, as well as Zack Anderson going down.  Our sack total just stopped once he was gone.